ebay question : 2nd chance?

Hia,

When selling something - whats to stop people getting thier mates to bid on it until they win it then offering it to the 2nd place person at thier highest bid?

Thanks,
worto.

P.S. - thanks for the help with ebay - I know I've asked a couple of questions recently, this seems to be the best forum to ask them on.

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nothing - is your answer. Although it is against ebay rules (called shill bidding) and will get you banned from ebay if you get caught. I have caught people at it before.

Nothing. I'm always wary of 2nd chance offers especialy if the seller has only got 1 of the item anyway. Have a look through the sellers feedback if the seller has sold a few of the same item recently the chances are they have more than one in stock and offering them as a 2nd chance because your bid is high enough and it saves the seller the time and cost of listing that item again.

Banned

Its called shill bidding and ebay monitors cross bidding so they'll get away with it once or twice and then wham - an instant lifetime ban for both parties!

mrspodington;1736794

Nothing. I'm always wary of 2nd chance offers especialy if the seller has … Nothing. I'm always wary of 2nd chance offers especialy if the seller has only got 1 of the item anyway. Have a look through the sellers feedback if the seller has sold a few of the same item recently the chances are they have more than one in stock and offering them as a 2nd chance because your bid is high enough and it saves the seller the time and cost of listing that item again.



Just curious, but why are you wary of this? You are ]allowed to do it under eBay's rules, and if you have bid that much already, then you were obviously willing to pay that much for the item, so where's the problem?

Its called shill bidding and ebay monitors cross bidding so they'll get … Its called shill bidding and ebay monitors cross bidding so they'll get away with it once or twice and then wham - an instant lifetime ban for both parties!



Oh if that was true, if it's a small user then maybe, if it's a power seller probably not, I have seen plenty of Shill bidding (allegidly:whistling:) and the power sellers are still registered!
Some it's so blatently obvious that even when reported to Ebay by more than one person it's still ignored.

Most noticable on those sellers that sell a lot of one item with a 99p start, they have one or maybe 2 'buyers' that effectively give the items a reserve, nobody pays less than a certain figure....

Cynical...moi:roll:

Des

mrspodington;1736794

Nothing. I'm always wary of 2nd chance offers especialy if the seller has … Nothing. I'm always wary of 2nd chance offers especialy if the seller has only got 1 of the item anyway. Have a look through the sellers feedback if the seller has sold a few of the same item recently the chances are they have more than one in stock and offering them as a 2nd chance because your bid is high enough and it saves the seller the time and cost of listing that item again.



I would only be wary if the 2nd chance offer comes very quickly after the auction ends. As a seller I have used 2nd chance offers when a buyer doesn't pay for an item (which happens from time to time). But this usually takes at least a week to happen.

If you get a 2nd chance offer and you think it's dodgy, then don't buy it and report the seller to ebay.

Original Poster

thanks for the info guys dealing with ebay & paypal seems like a bit of a minefield!

worto.

I always offer second chance offers to people instantly if they're just a quid or two off the final price. It makes sense to catch that sale if poss just dropping a quid or so.

I can see why people are wary of them but if you wanted to make someone pay their highest you'd keep bidding in small increments and when you become the highest bidder just remove the latest one. That way there's no second chance offer, they have won the item at their highest!!! That's what you want to watch out for. I generally get about 20% of second chance offers accepted so it's not worth winning the item yourself and hoping that the next highest will buy it.
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