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    Me and my partner have been thinking about this move for some 6-7 years now infact since we moved from birmingham to cornwall,but we cant decide wheather to move to golden coast oz ,new zeland which is my choice or my partners which is canada weve done a little investigating , i was offered a job as a fish filliter in queensland,but what i would really like would be someone with prior knowlegde of this field or someone who has actually done this so me and my family could keep intouch and ask questions, youre help in this matter would be much appreiciated...

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    my mate currently in NZ. likes the way of life but feels he's missing something.

    heading back to UK in feb after around 18 months out there. says cost of living higher than he'd thought. mind, he still has to cover his mortgage over here to a large degree

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    scrumpypaul;6409824

    my mate currently in NZ. likes the way of life but feels he's missing … my mate currently in NZ. likes the way of life but feels he's missing something.heading back to UK in feb after around 18 months out there. says cost of living higher than he'd thought. mind, he still has to cover his mortgage over here to a large degree



    any idea what you feel like he might be missing

    New Zealand is where i would like to move to in a few years!

    i worked/lived in oz or a whie
    i was in Melbourne
    very easy to get settled especially given how many brits were already there
    my standard of living was higher there than doing the same job over here
    i only returned due to not getting my visa renewed

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    lastlaststar;6410013

    New Zealand is where i would like to move to in a few years!



    why would you like to move there

    bargainman;6409944

    any idea what you feel like he might be missing



    i think he thought it may be shangri la

    he went over as a cop and to be honest, he's been involved in quite a few gun related incidents which i think have unsettled him, specially as he has a young family

    i have lived in a few countries, but never been to oz or canada, and i would definately recommend nz. it will the the place where i know where i will bring up my kids.

    the gun incidents - that suprises me as when I lived in nz a few years ago there was very few compared to what I witnessed in dublin or london (i had a shooting outside my apartment only a week or so back).

    the main hurdle to overcome when moving is your feelings. for the first half year whilst you get settled you could feel alone and isolated. this is a common feeling but you will find it easier with your partner as you will have each other. get in contact with people you know in whatever country you decide, and say "hey im moving over in a few months, thinking of moving X area, mind giving me your thoughts?" that way you build a relationship and have someone to talk to once you arrive.

    also if this is the first time you are moving overseas you have to realise you will have to adapt and grow, and will change as people. what i mean is this:
    1) adapt: you will learn to do things you never had to do before.
    2) grow: to make friends, you will have to start talking to strangers. not just elevator talk, but real talk talk. if you aren't good with small talk read up on it before hand it will help greatly
    3) these situations will change you as a person, and might change your partner - for the better generally
    4) going to a new country means getting rid of your chains and starting fresh - it is a great feeling. you never realise what chains you have until you dont have them anymore. you will sleep better and be healthier. the best example of this is: as you wind up your life here, you will forget things. as you hop on the plane to depart you will remember them and think "oh no i forgot to call the bank about that £10 fee bla bla". by the time the plane lands you will be thinking "meh, i don't actually care about the £10 fee, screw the bank, so what if they send a nasty letter, im overseas and its only £10 - ill pay them when i want to pay them"

    the first 6 months you will get homesick, you will think things like "it would be so much easier in the uk", "why did i come here", "what was i thinking", "i miss my mum", "i have no friends" and "i feel like a jaffa cake". well everyone feels that way. why did you come? - well write them down and keep that list in your wallet for when you feel down. "what was i thinking?" - well you wanted to explore/have a better life/whatever. "i miss my mum" - we all do, but thats what telephones, skype, video calling, emails and even flying your mum out to visit you once a year will do. "i want jaffa cake" - well try a local food instead! "i have no friends" - you might not yet but you'll have MORE than you did in the uk shortly!

    you will also hopefully learn to say yes more. what i mean, is that you will be out of your comfort zone in the new country and a new friend may ask you to go fishing, and you might never had fished before because you though it was boring. well, you won't say no to the invitation will you? you will start saying yes to many more things that will open up to be more experiences for you. a pessimist will struggle and you will see them turning down invitations and isolating themselves, just compounding the feeling of isolation and loneliness. don't be the pessimist - say yes!

    i see so many people moving overseas and give up too early to see the benefits. those statements i gave above are very common complaints. the first 6 months are the hardest

    also, don't go there and buy a house straight away (if you were thinking of that). rent for a year, figure out what areas you like, figure out if you want to live there etc. then start committing. take as little as you can, you dont need to take your furniture, your tv, your fridge, your 20 pairs of undies, you 15 pairs of shoes..

    oh, and the biggest tip of all - make friends with the locals rather than taking the easy route and making friends with other immigrants.

    hope that gives you a start on it.

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    ascen;6410440

    i have lived in a few countries, but never been to oz or canada, and i … i have lived in a few countries, but never been to oz or canada, and i would definately recommend nz. it will the the place where i know where i will bring up my kids.the gun incidents - that suprises me as when I lived in nz a few years ago there was very few compared to what I witnessed in dublin or london (i had a shooting outside my apartment only a week or so back).the main hurdle to overcome when moving is your feelings. for the first half year whilst you get settled you could feel alone and isolated. this is a common feeling but you will find it easier with your partner as you will have each other. get in contact with people you know in whatever country you decide, and say "hey im moving over in a few months, thinking of moving X area, mind giving me your thoughts?" that way you build a relationship and have someone to talk to once you arrive.also if this is the first time you are moving overseas you have to realise you will have to adapt and grow, and will change as people. what i mean is this:1) adapt: you will learn to do things you never had to do before.2) grow: to make friends, you will have to start talking to strangers. not just elevator talk, but real talk talk. if you aren't good with small talk read up on it before hand it will help greatly :)3) these situations will change you as a person, and might change your partner - for the better generally4) going to a new country means getting rid of your chains and starting fresh - it is a great feeling. you never realise what chains you have until you dont have them anymore. you will sleep better and be healthier. the best example of this is: as you wind up your life here, you will forget things. as you hop on the plane to depart you will remember them and think "oh no i forgot to call the bank about that £10 fee bla bla". by the time the plane lands you will be thinking "meh, i don't actually care about the £10 fee, screw the bank, so what if they send a nasty letter, im overseas and its only £10 - ill pay them when i want to pay them"the first 6 months you will get homesick, you will think things like "it would be so much easier in the uk", "why did i come here", "what was i thinking", "i miss my mum", "i have no friends" and "i feel like a jaffa cake". well everyone feels that way. why did you come? - well write them down and keep that list in your wallet for when you feel down. "what was i thinking?" - well you wanted to explore/have a better life/whatever. "i miss my mum" - we all do, but thats what telephones, skype, video calling, emails and even flying your mum out to visit you once a year will do. "i want jaffa cake" - well try a local food instead! "i have no friends" - you might not yet but you'll have MORE than you did in the uk shortly!you will also hopefully learn to say yes more. what i mean, is that you will be out of your comfort zone in the new country and a new friend may ask you to go fishing, and you might never had fished before because you though it was boring. well, you won't say no to the invitation will you? you will start saying yes to many more things that will open up to be more experiences for you. a pessimist will struggle and you will see them turning down invitations and isolating themselves, just compounding the feeling of isolation and loneliness. don't be the pessimist - say yes!i see so many people moving overseas and give up too early to see the benefits. those statements i gave above are very common complaints. the first 6 months are the hardestalso, don't go there and buy a house straight away (if you were thinking of that). rent for a year, figure out what areas you like, figure out if you want to live there etc. then start committing. take as little as you can, you dont need to take your furniture, your tv, your fridge, your 20 pairs of undies, you 15 pairs of shoes.. oh, and the biggest tip of all - make friends with the locals rather than taking the easy route and making friends with other immigrants.hope that gives you a start on it.



    thanks very much for your info ,,yes these are what i thought when i came to cornwall and expect it will be much harder in another land, do you have any contacts or know anywhere i might be able to get contact with anyone

    Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To Emigrate For A £10. Every Thing Is There For You Providing You Work And You Will Get On And A Happier Life As Well Really What Have You Got Here.nothing But Stress .as Brittish Society Has Went Down The Tubes.
    Cant Even Look After Our Troops Who Dont Even Get Protected In Battle.
    Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs Children .old.people. And Decent Folk Cant Get On With A Decent Life.allbecause The Powers To Be Are All Too Busy Lining There Pockets.
    And The Do Gooders With There Human Rights. I Wish You Luck On You Venture And I Hope You Do Well. Go For It.

    bighoss2;6410876

    Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To … Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To Emigrate For A £10. Every Thing Is There For You Providing You Work And You Will Get On And A Happier Life As Well Really What Have You Got Here.nothing But Stress .as Brittish Society Has Went Down The Tubes. Cant Even Look After Our Troops Who Dont Even Get Protected In Battle. Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs Children .old.people. And Decent Folk Cant Get On With A Decent Life.allbecause The Powers To Be Are All Too Busy Lining There Pockets. And The Do Gooders With There Human Rights. I Wish You Luck On You Venture And I Hope You Do Well. Go For It.



    Quoted for WTF....

    bighoss2;6410876

    Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To … Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To Emigrate For A £10. Every Thing Is There For You Providing You Work And You Will Get On And A Happier Life As Well Really What Have You Got Here.nothing But Stress .as Brittish Society Has Went Down The Tubes. Cant Even Look After Our Troops Who Dont Even Get Protected In Battle. Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs Children .old.people. And Decent Folk Cant Get On With A Decent Life.allbecause The Powers To Be Are All Too Busy Lining There Pockets. And The Do Gooders With There Human Rights. I Wish You Luck On You Venture And I Hope You Do Well. Go For It.



    Who taught you how to write like that? Why a capital letter on every word?:?

    leefal;6410905

    Quoted for WTF....



    :w00t:

    If you have visited all of the places your are considering then you shouldn't need to ask?

    Personally oz has never interested me, canada on the other hand i think i could live there

    leefal;6410905

    Quoted for WTF....



    :lol:

    I think my favourite bit is

    Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs … Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs Children .old.people.

    bighoss2;6410876

    Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To … Go For It. I Wished I Hadnt Changed My Mind When We Got The Chance To Emigrate For A £10. Every Thing Is There For You Providing You Work And You Will Get On And A Happier Life As Well Really What Have You Got Here.nothing But Stress .as Brittish Society Has Went Down The Tubes. Cant Even Look After Our Troops Who Dont Even Get Protected In Battle. Just Go Out On Any Street Today And It Is Full Of Junkies Thiefs Children .old.people. And Decent Folk Cant Get On With A Decent Life.allbecause The Powers To Be Are All Too Busy Lining There Pockets. And The Do Gooders With There Human Rights. I Wish You Luck On You Venture And I Hope You Do Well. Go For It.



    Multi:w00t:

    waj1234;6410976

    Who taught you how to write like that? Why a capital letter on every … Who taught you how to write like that? Why a capital letter on every word?:?



    IT AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS WHEN YOU WRITE IN CAPS FOR A WHOLE PARAGRAPH, PROB WON'T HAPPEN NOW THOUGH AS I AM QUOTING YOU

    See It Didnt Happen But It Should Happen With This Text

    im moving to the US when i graduater maybe not straight after but defo within a couple of years, maybe even toronto was there last summer and loved it

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    micoo;6411175

    im moving to the US when i graduater maybe not straight after but defo … im moving to the US when i graduater maybe not straight after but defo within a couple of years, maybe even toronto was there last summer and loved it



    whats it like there then,whats there to do ,cost of living,house prices etc

    bargainman;6411366

    whats it like there then,whats there to do ,cost of living,house prices … whats it like there then,whats there to do ,cost of living,house prices etc



    dnt know about cost of living or house prices in canada, i was only there on holiday for 2 weeks lol, but it is a beautifull place, lots to do

    i dont really think of Canada as that far away, only 6 hrs by plane, NZ is half a world away of course...

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do xxxx

    bargainman;6410784

    thanks very much for your info ,,yes these are what i thought when i came … thanks very much for your info ,,yes these are what i thought when i came to cornwall and expect it will be much harder in another land, do you have any contacts or know anywhere i might be able to get contact with anyone



    it will be harder, but very fufilling in the end. after moving to my first foriegn country and overcoming the hurdles it gave me a lot of confidence.

    contacts: unfortunately not really but have a read of these forums:
    britishexpats.com/forum/


    I did a quick google and came up with a couple interesting links:

    nzherald.co.nz/imm…027

    dailymail.co.uk/new…tml

    The situation in the second link is normal for all countries. I was in that situation in ireland and am in that situation here in the uk - they are complaining on an problem that occurs internationally, so don't let that discourage you at all. I would say that the uk is even more strict than nz on this matter.

    there are many immigrants in nz, at my last job there about of 60-70 people, there was only 3 kiwis!

    I have emigrated 5 times, 2st time to NZ in 1985, but did not stay longer than 1 1/12 yrs ass my daughter had a lot of problems there with asthma, then we emigrated to Australia, never stayed long enough to get a permanent visa - great but I really missed the food, as I am a vegetarian and very little out there in the way of vegetarian food, went back a few years later (emigrating again) as my daughter went to the Country Music college (1st international student to be accepted), came back again as we had not sold house, then went back again a few years later, decided it was USA for us, tool a further 3 years and job offer to get to the US but that did not work out either, so we are back here and I must say although I ejoyed every minute of it and my girls are very well travelled I am glad to be here after all.

    also - the do say life is like a book - to stay at home it to read but one page:thumbsup:

    Good luck with whatever you do and and wherever you go, and remember 'its a small world, you can always come back

    ascen;6413062

    it will be harder, but very fufilling in the end. after moving to my … it will be harder, but very fufilling in the end. after moving to my first foriegn country and overcoming the hurdles it gave me a lot of confidence.contacts: unfortunately not really but have a read of these forums:http://britishexpats.com/forum/I did a quick google and came up with a couple interesting links:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/immigration/news/article.cfm?c_id=231&objectid=10583027http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197713/Expats-paradise-lost-New-Zealands-jobs-crisis--just-weeks-named-best-place-make-fresh-start.htmlThe situation in the second link is normal for all countries. I was in that situation in ireland and am in that situation here in the uk - they are complaining on an problem that occurs internationally, so don't let that discourage you at all. I would say that the uk is even more strict than nz on this matter. there are many immigrants in nz, at my last job there about of 60-70 people, there was only 3 kiwis!


    it was the same back in the 80's mu husband worked with all samoans for Otis elevators never really met and New Zealanders, we lived in Auckland

    oh and one last other thing: if you don't like where ever you end up even after 6 months, no problem - as long has you havent anchored yourself there with a mortgage it's no biggie to pack up and move to one of the other countries and try there! no problem and another adventure!

    waj1234;6410976

    Who taught you how to write like that? Why a capital letter on every … Who taught you how to write like that? Why a capital letter on every word?:?



    They've typed it all in caps so the forum software makes everything but the first letter of each word lowercase to save us all from their shouting.
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