England and the BBC. Is it just me...

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Found 26th Mar 2011
Hi

I know this has been touched on in another post, but I was seriously appalled that the England vs Wales game is not on terrestrial television (I have sky sports so watching is not really an issue - this is an argument of principle)

Considering that a) its a competitive International and b) its a home nations derby, I think it is shocking that neither the BBC or ITV are showing it. (I am focusing more on the BBC in this rant as we pay for it!) I thought it was funny that there was an hour long Football Focus talking almost exclusively about the game, but then the BBC are not even showing it!

So here is my question - Considering the licence fee that we all have to pay; should the BBC have an obligation to air competitive Home Nations football games? (including Scotland, Wales and Ni if that's where you are) Is it fair that those who don't have sky cannot watch their own county play without either illegal streaming or going to a pub? What are we paying our licence for if the BBC can't even air competitive England international matches?

Or does nobody else care? Opinions please!

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I think England home matches have to be shown on terrestial TV.

Wasn't David Davies supposed to be compiling a report and recommending which sports should be shown on terrestial TV and which could go to Sky? What happened to that?

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sunshiner

I think England home matches have to be shown on terrestial TV.Wasn't … I think England home matches have to be shown on terrestial TV.Wasn't David Davies supposed to be compiling a report and recommending which sports should be shown on terrestial TV and which could go to Sky? What happened to that?




I thought that too, which is why I was so suprised it isnt? They obviously couldn't / didn't want to cough up the £££ to air it

Competitive home internationals for England have to be on terrestrial tv. This is an away game so on sky. Surprised it's not on BBC Wales

I asked in my post whether it would be via the red button. Because of bbc wales and so on.

I am confused!!

firth_face

I asked in my post whether it would be via the red button. Because of bbc … I asked in my post whether it would be via the red button. Because of bbc wales and so on.I am confused!!



where is the confusion?

The match is on Sky. Get over it.

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It shouldn't matter if the game is home or away though. In my opinion the BBC should air any competitive England or other Home Nations games full stop.

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where is the confusion?

The match is on Sky. Get over it.[/quote]


I will be watching it on Sky. But why, when the BBC is funded by the public, should people who don't have Sky not be able to support their own country without having to go to a pub?!
Edited by: "CoffeeMaker" 26th Mar 2011

It should be on terrestrial tv in my opinion. No sky tv here so watching a stream on the pc.

numptyj

where is the confusion?The match is on Sky. Get over it.



But in the past...Welsh games have been accessable via the red button...hence the confusion.

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I also think its funny you get so much rhetoric about how drinking is bad for you etc, but then the only option for a lot of people is to watch the game in a pub! How many less people would be drinking today if people could watch at home?

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CoffeeMaker

I also think its funny you get so much rhetoric about how drinking is bad … I also think its funny you get so much rhetoric about how drinking is bad for you etc, but then the only option for a lot of people is to watch the game in a pub! How many less people would be drinking today if people could watch at home?



Weird thing - pubs sell soft drinks and people can buy alcoholic drinks to drink in their own home.

As to the larger points, it's about tv rights and money and it's as simple as that. Away European qualifiers aren't forced to be on terrestrial tv and the fact that Wales and England were drawn together doesn't change that.

FilthAndFurry

As to the larger points, it's about tv rights and money and it's as … As to the larger points, it's about tv rights and money and it's as simple as that. Away European qualifiers aren't forced to be on terrestrial tv and the fact that Wales and England were drawn together doesn't change that.



But Wales arn't playing away....

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Weird thing - pubs sell soft drinks and people can buy alcoholic drinks to drink in their own home.

As to the larger points, it's about tv rights and money and it's as simple as that. Away European qualifiers aren't forced to be on terrestrial tv and the fact that Wales and England were drawn together doesn't change that.[/quote]

I know and yes, you're right. But me watching the game at home I wouldn't even think of drinking, but if I had to go to the pub I would have a few pints, as would a lot of people. I am not saying you have to drink in a pub, but the fact is a lot of people would.

But back to the bigger question - yes of course it comes down to money - but when it comes to competitive International games I think the BBC should be doing everything to compete with sky for these games and get them on terrestrial tv!

Some people obviously don't think it matters where the game is shown and that's what I was interested to see if I was the only person that this bothered

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scoff

But Wales arn't playing away....



I think I'm right in saying that Sky bought the Welsh European Qualifier rights.

Blame the Welsh fa nothing to do with England that the match is on sky

England home and away games should be on the protected sports list not just the home ones so blame the government :P

I have a disappointed 9yr old that wanted to watch his favourite team....but bad mummy won't let them have sky sports!!

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chas76

I have a disappointed 9yr old that wanted to watch his favourite … I have a disappointed 9yr old that wanted to watch his favourite team....but bad mummy won't let them have sky sports!!



A. No 9 year old should have the England team as his favourite team.

B. If he must, then disappointment is something he should get used to.

C. Take him to the pub.

Isn't it going to be just like watching the Premier League without the good players?

ITV official home of England Internationalshttp://i54.tinypic.com/24y7el3.gif

Is KO 2.00pm? or 3pm

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In a roundabout way it probably benefits the government that games like this aren't on terrestrial - people get so fed up with free-to-air television that they upgrade to sky (as happened to me) = more money they get in taxes from sky!

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glenncraneuk

Is KO 2.00pm? or 3pm


3pm mate - coverage starts from 2pm

CoffeeMaker

3pm mate - coverage starts from 2pm



Thanks alot - currently living in paraguay so its strange with time differences etc.
Looking forward to it, and even more impressed with england u21 match i watched the other night - looks like the future is bright.

Hoping he doesn't start lampard, and tries parker in the middle at some point!

FilthAndFurry

A. No 9 year old should have the England team as his favourite team.B. If … A. No 9 year old should have the England team as his favourite team.B. If he must, then disappointment is something he should get used to.C. Take him to the pub.



Ha he is very used to disappointment his 2nd favourite team is West Ham and his 3rd favourite Man U much to the disgust of the rest of the family but he likes to follow a team that wins sometimes too!! I don't do pubs so he'll probably go to Grandads!

I agree, we are all part of the UK, so the games should be shown on terrestrial tv.

However, you should be able to watch the game here (free to sign up for an account):

everythingon.tv/cha…2-2

Apparently others have said that this stream has annoying popups, but I use Firefox and don't get any.

I connect to my TV with a HDMI cable (easier), and quality isn't great, but its free.

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glenncraneuk

Thanks alot - currently living in paraguay so its strange with time … Thanks alot - currently living in paraguay so its strange with time differences etc.Looking forward to it, and even more impressed with england u21 match i watched the other night - looks like the future is bright.Hoping he doesn't start lampard, and tries parker in the middle at some point!




I'd start a with Parker, Wiltshire, Young and Lennon to stretch them on the wings, with Rooney playing just behind Bent / Defoe, bringing Carrol on if we need something different!
Edited by: "CoffeeMaker" 26th Mar 2011

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But nope, he's started with lampard!

Anywhere to watch the match build up - found a nice website
And do you know full line up? HAs it been confirmed?
And welsh starting 11?


Edited by: "glenncraneuk" 26th Mar 2011

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glenncraneuk

Anywhere to watch the match build up online (Pm me )And do you know … Anywhere to watch the match build up online (Pm me )And do you know full line up? HAs it been confirmed? And welsh starting 11?




Its just given it on Sky - can't remember the wales one but they're playing 4-2-3-1, England in a 433 with lamps, parker, wiltshire, rooney, young and bent

I'll update you next time they show it unless you find it before then mate
Edited by: "CoffeeMaker" 26th Mar 2011

CoffeeMaker

Its just given it on Sky - can't remember the wales one but they're … Its just given it on Sky - can't remember the wales one but they're playing 4-2-3-1, England in a 433 with lamps, parker, wiltshire, rooney, young and bentI'll update you next time they show it unless you find it before then mate



Thanks appreciate it

I've been watching on

everythingon.tv/cha…1-1

but the lag is annoying, even if it is 1-0 to England!

Anyone know a better stream?
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