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    'English Defence League' Protest outside Mosque

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    Ten people were arrested after scuffles broke out as police attempted to separate protesters from a large number of people who opposed the group.
    The EDL has recently been involved in a number of confrontations in Birmingham.
    In a statement to the BBC, Mr Denham said: "I believe the English Defence League is not a large group, but they clearly have amongst them people who know exactly what they are doing.
    "If you look at the types of demonstrations they have organised, the language used and the targets chosen, it looks pretty clear that it's a tactic designed to provoke, to get a response and create violence.
    "It's important that we, right across government, make sure this does not happen.
    "We need to make sure people realise we are going to deal with this and that people recognise there is not a need to tackle this through counter confrontation."

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    the defence league are they doing a 4-4-2 formation or a Diamond ?

    Zonal Marking?

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    kiddakidda;6271929

    Zonal Marking?


    thought so :thumbsup:

    I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the near future (unfortunately). It may only be a copycat organisation, per violence as seen in other countries, but it has the habit of catching the radicals attention. The Nazis are on the way back sad to say.

    People feeling defensive, fearful, confrontational, and righteous on both sides.

    Avoid Trafalgar Square Sunday!

    This bit gets me.......

    "Denham said there was a clear link between increasing support for the far-right and discontent in predominantly white working class communities.

    He said this is due to fears that they are not being listened to."

    So, invite them to the table, let them talk politics instead of allowing it to degenerate into violence and to be used by others with ulterior motives to continue the violence.

    Predikuesi;6271944

    I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the near future … I think we are going to see a lot more of this in the near future (unfortunately). It may only be a copycat organisation, per violence as seen in other countries, but it has the habit of catching the radicals attention. The Nazis are on the way back sad to say.



    I agree..........the right wing extremist movements are making a return :-(

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    ClarityofMind;6271952

    People feeling defensive, fearful, confrontational, and righteous on both … People feeling defensive, fearful, confrontational, and righteous on both sides. Avoid Trafalgar Square Sunday!This bit gets me......."Denham said there was a clear link between increasing support for the far-right and discontent in predominantly white working class communities. He said this is due to fears that they are not being listened to."So, invite them to the table, let them talk politics instead of allowing it to degenerate into violence and to be used by others with ulterior motives to continue the violence.



    The problem is, they're a problem successive governments have helped create. Underfunding in education means you have some really unintelligent people who, in the current climate, are now fearful as well.

    So the lash out and are easily manipulated.

    strike;6271974

    The protestors should be killed



    They'd love that though........that's what they want, an end to democratic society and freedom.

    strike;6271974

    The protestors should be killed



    Reminds me of

    The peasants are revolting!!!

    youtube.com/wat…XwY

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    Syzable;6271983

    They'd love that though........that's what they want, an end to … They'd love that though........that's what they want, an end to democratic society and freedom.


    ooh more overtime :thumbsup:

    FilthAndFurry;6271981

    The problem is, they're a problem successive governments have helped … The problem is, they're a problem successive governments have helped create. Underfunding in education means you have some really unintelligent people who, in the current climate, are now fearful as well.So the lash out and are easily manipulated.



    Its the whole scapegoating issue that is actively encouraged by governments.

    I know I'm gonna get slated for being a behaviourist again but aggressive personality traits in dealing with this kinda social situation really dont help.

    Besides, I don't think bigotry is actually caused by a lack of knowledge or education, but most certainly flourishes where there is a lack of intelligence and where people are desperate enough to act against what they perceive the enemy to be...

    It's a lack of insight rather than education, directly.

    dog_cop;6271987

    ooh more overtime :thumbsup:



    :thumbsup: i feel a new kitchen coming on :thumbsup:

    esq3585;6272065

    The real story … The real story here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR6u8-TKxuw&feature=relatedhttp://www.englishdefenceleague.org/



    wow, thats some serious propaganda.

    even uniforms lol

    You think they make pointy white hoods too?

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    ClarityofMind;6272071

    wow, thats some serious propaganda.even uniforms lolYou think they make … wow, thats some serious propaganda.even uniforms lolYou think they make pointy white hoods too?



    Apparently they're another group trying to use St George's Cross purely to breed hatred. It's a shame that our national flag is used in such a way.

    I will say this for them ,they have some guts,There were only aound 20 of them with around a thousand people wanting to tear them limb from limb,

    This Sunday, Trafalgour Sqaure

    FilthAndFurry;6272103

    Apparently they're another group trying to use St George's Cross purely … Apparently they're another group trying to use St George's Cross purely to breed hatred. It's a shame that our national flag is used in such a way.



    In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.

    youtube.com/wat…NGU

    esq3585;6272151

    In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking … In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU



    And its a video by the members of EDl. Have you heard of muslims who have been attacked at night coming back from Mosque and one has now died. I doubt it.

    An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth

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    not more racial hatred f&f

    seems to be your specialist subject

    strike;6272155

    And its a video by the members of EDl. Have you heard of muslims who have … And its a video by the members of EDl. Have you heard of muslims who have been attacked at night coming back from Mosque and one has now died. I doubt it.An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth



    That video you quoted from me was a bbc news video , not one from the edl.

    Here it is again.

    youtube.com/wat…NGU

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    esq3585;6272151

    In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking … In any video from the protests do you see any EDL members attacking anyone, if you look at the videos it is muslim youths that are attacking people throwing stones etc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07iKI8ZNGU



    You ever seen that scene in Fight Club where the guy with the hose is trying to start a fight with the passing priest?

    I can't believe that priest hit him.

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    casparwhite;6272157

    not more racial hatred f&fseems to be your specialist subject



    Do you mean posts about racial hatred, or me actually racially hating?

    strike;6272155

    An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth



    Wrong attitude..........racial attacks work both ways. What we need is a end to it not constant revenge attacks.

    Syzable;6272176

    Wrong attitude..........racial attacks work both ways. What we need is a … Wrong attitude..........racial attacks work both ways. What we need is a end to it not constant revenge attacks.



    +1

    30yrs of Northern Ireland says the only way to assert peace is to lay down weapons and talk.

    ( unless you're married of course :w00t: )

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    FilthAndFurry;6272173

    Do you mean posts about racial hatred, or me actually racially hating?



    whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind now

    chosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail

    Its the football terraces for the noughties.

    strike;6272155

    An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth



    oh that old classic counter argument! It all fails when you consider other crimes.

    casparwhite;6272187

    whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind nowchosen … whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind nowchosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail



    Lol, this is a very accurate observation.
    Most of his quotes and thread starters come from DailyMail.co.uk

    I have seen 1 or 2 threads about football from him, but its mostly, as you say, him trying to get everyone arguing about race.

    Repped.

    Believe it or not I live in this area. And yestarday the town city was so dead.

    My School / Sixth Form had ended early because of this. Because there was fear they may come here.

    And the park on my road has police all over at night becaue alot of these people were coming through the park.

    Helicopter were everywhere. Police was everywhere.

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    thrustmaster;6272271

    The videos kinda remind me of the Resident Evil 5 zombie trailer :oWhen I … The videos kinda remind me of the Resident Evil 5 zombie trailer :oWhen I watched the video all I could see was Muslim chavs with their faces covered throwing crap at the Police..About time we boot these fools out of our country.Thanks to the anti-EDL protesters the EDL itself is getting more media attention. Nice work



    I would've thought the exposure the EDL is getting would be negative in most responsible people's eyes.

    I doubt very much anyone sees them as anything other than what they really are:?

    without wanting to give the attention starved child op some satisfaction,my opinion:

    its exactly the same scenario as the anti facist protesters who stand outside the bnp meetings

    everyone has the right to protest,wether the majority believe in it or not

    the muslim thugs we wrong on this particular occasion as they resorted to violence and attacked the police

    in b4 the thread is pulled because the OP achieved their aim of racial arguements

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    boothy;6272346

    without wanting to give the attention starved child op some … without wanting to give the attention starved child op some satisfaction,my opinion:its exactly the same scenario as the anti facist protesters who stand outside the bnp meetingseveryone has the right to protest,wether the majority believe in it or notthe muslim thugs we wrong on this particular occasion as they resorted to violence and attacked the police


    excellent post as per :thumbsup:

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    ££ JASE ££;6272324

    Lol, this is a very accurate observation. Most of his quotes and thread … Lol, this is a very accurate observation. Most of his quotes and thread starters come from DailyMail.co.ukI have seen 1 or 2 threads about football from him, but its mostly, as you say, him trying to get everyone arguing about race.Repped.



    Not true, although I don't deny I read a wide variety of news sources.

    I also don't want 'arguments about race'. I just find discussions on one of the most important issues facing this country interesting and for that I can only blame my upbringing and education:?

    casparwhite;6272187

    whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind nowchosen … whatever you want but i can just see you on mastermind nowchosen specialist subject - racial hatred and stiring up trouble on internet forums with a splash of bnp and excerpts from the daily mail



    for once I agree on that one

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    dog_cop;6272353

    excellent post as per :thumbsup:



    good morning sir:)

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    My main interest in this is that I myself am English, but I'm not entirely sure who the EDL are 'protecting' me from.

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    boothy;6272364

    good morning sir:)


    morning squire.:). see the misk is sinking to the depths already :roll:

    dog_cop;6272373

    morning squire.:). see the misk is sinking to the depths already :roll:



    same old same old,just quickly popping in before a day in the peak district,pretty sure some people will be still on doing the same thing when I get back tonight:thumbsup:


    It used to be so good in here as well....
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