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'Epic Games' Hacked...who's next

SuperEd 17 replies
Found 11th Jun 2011
Epic Games have reported that their website and forums suffered from an attack, and that some of their users’ information may have been taken.

In an email from Tom Sweeney the founder of Epic Games, he says:

“The hackers may have obtained the email addresses and encrypted passwords of forum users. Plaintext passwords weren’t revealed, but it’s possible that those passwords could be obtained by a brute-force attack on the encrypted passwords.”

17 Comments

Original Poster SuperEd

I read yesterday codemasters had been hacked as well.

BBC News

Original Poster SuperEd

richp

I read yesterday codemasters had been hacked as well.BBC News



Yep! Seems its non-stop and security is so lax

Someone got it in for Games companies now?

Original Poster SuperEd

Retro89

Someone got it in for Games companies now?



Looks like it! Two reports in two days not good!

Banned

Hackers generally smarter than IT security specialists and also most businesses don't spend anywhere near as much on their network security than they should. Reckon the latter will change very soon but the former unlikely to.

master_chief

Hackers generally smarter than IT security specialists and also most … Hackers generally smarter than IT security specialists and also most businesses don't spend anywhere near as much on their network security than they should. Reckon the latter will change very soon but the former unlikely to.



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Dannysubaru

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I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security specialists, as they're one and the same. You have to understand how to break into something, before you can secure it properly. I will agree on your second point though, that It boils down to how much the companies are willing to spend to protect their own/customers data, which these blackhats are proving is very little.

@Dannysubaru: Most smart companies do.
Edited by: "ClubLife" 11th Jun 2011

my only opinion on this is that open hiring hackers to beat hackers is like hiring a gang mafia to kill another gang mafia.
Is it really for the better or for the worst?

edit: thinking over this for a minute and i have a change of mind - it is probably the bad analogy i made.
Edited by: "Artonox" 11th Jun 2011

I dont know that much about IT. But why do the systems of games producers need to be connected to the internet? Cant they just used a closed network, or are these hackers of the Sam Fisher type?

It's not the skills/knowledge the hacker possess that's the problem, Artonox. It's the mindset of that person, and their intentions.

A locksmith can fix/replace locks, but also possesses the skills to pick said lock and commit burglary.

Dannysubaru

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ClubLife

I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security … I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security specialists, as they're one and the same. You have to understand how to break something, before you can secure it properly. I will agree on your second point though, that It boils down to how much the companies are willing to spend to protect their own/customers data, which these blackhats are proving is very [email protected]: Most smart companies do.



I said something similar here:
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If a challenge is there a "script kiddie" wishing to gain respect of his or her peers will endeavour to break what (little) security exists because they can.

Imagine if you worked in PC World & were tasked with resolving a customer's software problem.

Within the hundreds & hundreds of user-created files there may be a few that are password protected.

Which one are you going to try to crack open to view the contents because you think it holds some sensitive information, ignoring all the others that look unimportant?

That's right... it is the one that looks like a standard MS-Windows file that has the sensitive information hidden beyond the actual end of the file.

However, the inexperienced cracker will look at the pasword-protected documents.

It could be worse, however,... you could be Paul Gadd with a PC problem.

BFN,

fp.
Edited by: "fanpages" 11th Jun 2011

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ClubLife

I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security … I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security specialists, as they're one and the same. You have to understand how to break into something, before you can secure it properly. I will agree on your second point though, that It boils down to how much the companies are willing to spend to protect their own/customers data, which these blackhats are proving is very [email protected]: Most smart companies do.



I'm CCSP*, though not doing any security related work at the moment, but I know a lot of people and companies specialising in security and I can safely say most of them are/employee people who work from the book. These are usually graduate sorts who work 9-5, take the courses and copy the templates.

Black hatters on the other hand...


*Oversold, I got half way there, same with CCNP.
Edited by: "master_chief" 11th Jun 2011

That doesn't mean they aren't capable of doing more. We all know that people perform dependant on salary. Money is a massive motivator, in both the legal and illegal world of business. If you're paid to do the bare minimum, then the bare minimum you shall do.

I'm not disputing that there aren't some wet eared, blinkered people out there claiming to be security experts. But there are an aweful lot of security companies out there that are excellent at what they do, purely due to their roots i.e. once were black hats, now white hat/grey hats, and/or willingness to look past the red tape, and outside the box. It all depends on how the company recruit, and their ethics.

Banned

Interesting story an ex manager used to tell me about his time in the banking industry. There was a guy there who was found out to be an ex-hacker. He was sacked instantly and couldn't get a job in IT again (as of a couple years ago anyway), he was their top security expert.

It's not that common for companies to employ criminals, regardless of their abilities, and particularly in positions of trust...

It's a nice idea, and it does happen, but it's nowhere near as common as people believe that companies employ black hat hackers.
Edited by: "master_chief" 11th Jun 2011

ClubLife

I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security … I wouldn't say hackers are generally smarter than IT security specialists, as they're one and the same. You have to understand how to break into something, before you can secure it properly. I will agree on your second point though, that It boils down to how much the companies are willing to spend to protect their own/customers data, which these blackhats are proving is very [email protected]: Most smart companies do.



Facebook hold hacking competitions fairly regularly, and employ the winner
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