Fake News about Grenfell Baby

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Found 10th Oct 2017Edited by:"davewave"
bbc.co.uk/new…836

One of the most dramatic stories from the night of the Grenfell Tower blaze - that a baby was thrown from a window and caught - probably never happened, a BBC investigation has concluded.

The news was reported in the media right across the UK and the world.

The Press Association tweeted an interview with a woman named Samira Lamrani.

She told them that she had witnessed a woman on the "ninth or 10th floor" throwing a baby from a window and that the child was caught by a man below.

The quotes were picked up by news organisations across the UK.

Newsnight contacted Ms Lamrani but she declined to be interviewed. "My memory of that night is fading… I don't want to talk about it," she said.

Another witness quoted at the time was the broadcaster and architect George Clarke who told Newsnight on the day of the fire that he saw a man catch "a kid" thrown out of the window from the eighth floor.

When we contacted him for this report, he told us he did not wish to make any comment on the matter at all. "It's such a contentious issue and I think it's so hurtful to so many people," he said.


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Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.

The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....

The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.

The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher.

Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.
Edited by: "groenleader" 10th Oct 2017
Easiest way to deal with it is to jail anybody caught wasting police time, making fraudulent claims and NO anybody who was here illegally wont be getting any form of compensation!
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I remember reading about it at the time
was just about to post a link on here
no hang on........


peoples memories/perceptions are fallible this is why things like statistics/facts are important
Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.

The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....

The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.

The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher.

Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.
Edited by: "groenleader" 10th Oct 2017
groenleader1 h, 30 m ago

Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like …Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher. Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.


There will probably still be demands for public enquiries and bids for compensation over this in twenty years time. Hopefully I’m wrong, and the issues relating to the disaster will be deal with speedily.
Easiest way to deal with it is to jail anybody caught wasting police time, making fraudulent claims and NO anybody who was here illegally wont be getting any form of compensation!
That's just poor quality reporting and copy and paste without verification for selling clicks and for profit.

A 4-year old girl weighs about 15kg..moving at increasing velocity of 9.81 m/s every second ....this is an extremely difficult catch for just one person....and there should be more than one woman boasting about this amazing feat and worthy of a gold medal of some sort. 15kg is quite a "hammer blow".

Just do the GCSE elementary maths, each floor is about 2.5m, 10 storeys are about 25 metres, 15 kg coming down at acceleration of 9.81 m/s speed every second. There was just 3 seconds to catch 15kg weight come crashing down.

This is just about possible with at least 4 strong folks holding a large sheet of cloth, and may very well have warranted a trip to a local A&E.

So how hard it is to catch 15kg? imagine that you have 3 X 5L of mineral water in plastic containers tied together and you are standing 25 m below and try to catch it.
Edited by: "splender" 11th Oct 2017
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The real fake news going around is the idea that socialism produces safer architecture than capitalism.
the real lie is the death toll, 71 out of that massive block of flats?

Wake up sheeple
Rubisco4 h, 25 m ago

The real fake news going around is the idea that socialism produces safer …The real fake news going around is the idea that socialism produces safer architecture than capitalism.


Another words, you are saying the real fake news going around is fake news.
benjammin3164 h, 15 m ago

the real lie is the death toll, 71 out of that massive block of flats?Wake …the real lie is the death toll, 71 out of that massive block of flats?Wake up sheeple


I thought the official position is that no one knows how many died, so no one could possibly say what the death toll is until at least the end of this year. theguardian.com/uk-…ice
groenleader15 h, 30 m ago

Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like …Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher. Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.


Everything is sensationalised now, even your bog standard sandwich is crafted and is limited edition. That how people like it.

However Grenfell is epic, that's how people view it from abroad , "The scale of the fire that engulfed Grenfell Tower in June was unprecedented.

Firefighters all around the world would have watched with horror as the fire took hold as it did.

In over 30 years working within the fire and rescue service, I have never seen a fire pose such a huge threat to human life."

Credits : Fire Brigades Union
fbu.org.uk/blo…ned
groenleader16 h, 54 m ago

Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like …Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher. Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.


It was the worst UK fire in decades and killed over 70 people, really fail to see what's been sensationalised about it? The UK government's response was totally inadequate, this is a widely agreed fact. Not exactly like these people were ecstatic about having their home and entire contents destroyed, how would you feel if this happened to you? You're making them out to be scroungers, when the fire should of never happened in the first place.
splender8 h, 18 m ago

That's just poor quality reporting and copy and paste without verification …That's just poor quality reporting and copy and paste without verification for selling clicks and for profit.A 4-year old girls weighs about 15kg..moving at increasing velocity of 9.81 m/s every second ....this is an extremely difficult catch for just one person....and there should be more than one woman boasting about this amazing feat and worthy of a gold medal of some sort. 15kg is quite a "hammer blow".Just do the GCSE elementary maths, each floor is about 2.5m, 10 storeys are about 25 metres, 15 kg coming down at acceleration of 9.81 m/s speed every second. There was just 3 seconds to catch 15kg weight come crashing down.This is just about possible with at least 4 strong folks holding a large sheet of cloth, and may very well have warranted a trip to a local A&E.So how hard it is to catch 15kg? imagine that you have 3 X 5L of mineral water in plastic containers tied together and you are standing 25 m below and try to catch it.


Excellent work splender.
groenleader18 h, 12 m ago

Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like …Nothing has been over done and sensationalised in recent years like Grenfell.The moment it comes on the TV or in a newspaper article I just roll my eyes....The lies, the over played helplessness of the victims in spite of so much money and good will going there way.The medias "americanisation" to create a drama out of what happened that they could use for years. The mindless drones, that watch, read and consume this content like its EastEnders and allow it to infect there every day lives and thoughts. All of it coated with lies and fakeness to enhance its effect on the reader/watcher. Appalling, a modern tragedy creating, spawning another, all in the name of profit.


What would be your preferred outcome for the victims of the incident?
benjammin31618 h, 4 m ago

the real lie is the death toll, 71 out of that massive block of flats?Wake …the real lie is the death toll, 71 out of that massive block of flats?Wake up sheeple



People have phone's and TV . even at night there was a lot of noise and commotion to wake them and think a lot of the healthy ones managed to escape.
So maybe that figure might not be that far out?
CameronG12 h, 12 m ago

It was the worst UK fire in decades and killed over 70 people, really fail …It was the worst UK fire in decades and killed over 70 people, really fail to see what's been sensationalised about it? The UK government's response was totally inadequate, this is a widely agreed fact. Not exactly like these people were ecstatic about having their home and entire contents destroyed, how would you feel if this happened to you? You're making them out to be scroungers, when the fire should of never happened in the first place.


'widely agreed' by people who either hold the placards and/or want to appear liberal and anti establishment.
davewave1 h, 1 m ago

'widely agreed' by people who either hold the placards and/or want to …'widely agreed' by people who either hold the placards and/or want to appear liberal and anti establishment.


Just out of interest, whats newspaper/news websites do you visit? What do you regard as credible
CameronG1 h, 1 m ago

Just out of interest, whats newspaper/news websites do you visit? What do …Just out of interest, whats newspaper/news websites do you visit? What do you regard as credible


All of them and none of them, none are entirely without bias or agenda, I think it is wise to read as many as possible, even those which aren't sympathetic to your political leaning.

I read/watch the following: FT, The Economist, Daily Mail, The Telegraph, Daily Mirror, The Age, BBC News, The Guardian, Vice News, Sky News, The Times of Israel, Evening Standard, The Times, WSJ, Breitbart.
deeky15 h, 37 m ago

Excellent work splender.


I actually thought 'even your bog standard sandwich is crafted and is limited edition' was
Trump has a lot to answer for!
davewave6 h, 29 m ago

All of them and none of them, none are entirely without bias or agenda, I …All of them and none of them, none are entirely without bias or agenda, I think it is wise to read as many as possible, even those which aren't sympathetic to your political leaning. I read/watch the following: FT, The Economist, Daily Mail, The Telegraph, Daily Mirror, The Age, BBC News, The Guardian, Vice News, Sky News, The Times of Israel, Evening Standard, The Times, WSJ, Breitbart.



CameronG7 h, 31 m ago

Just out of interest, whats newspaper/news websites do you visit? What do …Just out of interest, whats newspaper/news websites do you visit? What do you regard as credible



Widely agreed here by a list of likes here with the usual names which include Industryhater.

davewave8 h, 32 m ago

'widely agreed' by people who either hold the placards and/or want to …'widely agreed' by people who either hold the placards and/or want to appear liberal and anti establishment.

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