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    first car second hand and reliable?

    What is the most reliable second hand car with cheap insurance?

    Can spend anywhere up to a max of £3k

    Any help or pointers would be appreciated

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    Estimated mileage ? What type of journey
    Number of passengers usually carry if any ?
    Any kids / pets

    Insurance is dependant on many other factors, such as your age too
    Edited by: "mrwhitelabel" 1st Jan 2015

    German cars are best

    linkinprophets

    German cars are best




    That is pure myth, Japanese cars are generally the most reliable; Fact.

    yaris

    Honda.

    Definitely would go for a small Toyota or VW, maybe even a Fiat panda, versions of these cars made within the last ten years have good reliability rates and the parts tend to be cheap.

    Steer clear of versions of Mini, BMW and Mercedes for the age of the car you will get for your money, these will be prone to problems with gearboxes, Engine management and power steering issues which could prove very costly plus obviously the tax and insurance may be expensive.

    Honda jazz. I saw something about it being one of the most reliable cars, not sure if this is true as I don't own one but that or a skoda would be my top choices.

    There is no clear answer to your question.
    Jap cars do come out on reliability tables consistently each year, but the parts are generally more expensive as well when they do go wrong.

    Germans have better build quality, but their reliability is questionable of late. Anyone who says German cars are reliable are going of information that is 10 years out of date. Also you pay an unnecessary premium on buying the cars in the first place and the parts can be a bit costly.

    French & Italian are the most comfortable, but also are typically far down the reliability tables. generally they are cheap to buy, fix and insure though.

    Fords and Vauxhalls can be picked up for cheap prices and the repair costs are generally low. They have fairly good reliability (though some may question Vauxhalls reliability record). Corsas and fiestas are generally good first cars.

    There are others but ive covered the most popular areas. Other options are Kia and Hyundai, which are fairly good all rounders.

    Original Poster

    mrwhitelabel

    Estimated mileage ? What type of journeyNumber of passengers usually … Estimated mileage ? What type of journeyNumber of passengers usually carry if any ?Any kids / petsInsurance is dependant on many other factors, such as your age too



    School boy error not including that info !

    Commute to work and social

    Not kids or pets

    Would mainly be me and then friends as passengers occasionally

    Thanks for your help

    ford, as they are quite cheap to fix, insure and normally reliable.. also kia, Hyundai etc are reliable cars
    also check out WHAT CAR online as they give good info on cars, well worth a look

    Just buy a well cared for, low mileage Honda or Toyota, you really cannot go wrong.

    depends whos looked after the car if its reliable. Try find a fiesta thats been used by an old couple. And thats been serviced and looked after well. Certain makes of cars maybe better (debatable) but not if its never had an oil change !

    I would recommend mazda or honda for reliability.Have a Bmw now which is solid but pricey for servicing and upkeep.

    Britneyfan

    depends whos looked after the car if its reliable. Try find a fiesta … depends whos looked after the car if its reliable. Try find a fiesta thats been used by an old couple. And thats been serviced and looked after well. Certain makes of cars maybe better (debatable) but not if its never had an oil change !



    Also try get something newer, cars are getting much more reliable than they used to be. Also check how much tax and insurance is and factor than into your decision.

    Britneyfan

    Also try get something newer, cars are getting much more reliable than … Also try get something newer, cars are getting much more reliable than they used to be. Also check how much tax and insurance is and factor than into your decision.



    That is not strictly true, cars made around the period 1995 /2005 were more reliable with less electronics to go wrong.

    mk2 ford focus 1.6

    tince666

    mk2 ford focus 1.6



    My Daughter has one of them, gearbox needed changing at 60,000 miles....cough.

    Original Poster

    Britneyfan

    Also try get something newer, cars are getting much more reliable than … Also try get something newer, cars are getting much more reliable than they used to be. Also check how much tax and insurance is and factor than into your decision.



    What would newer class as how many years back 2008?

    From a pure practical point of view it would have to be a Kia Picanto. £3k would pick you up a lowish mileage example on a 10 plate. Cheap to own and run and still has 2 years warranty. Run it for a couple of years and sell it for £2k. Then you have had some cheap motoring and gained a few years NCB.

    Something like THIS.

    GAVINLEWISHUKD

    From a pure practical point of view it would have to be a Kia Picanto. … From a pure practical point of view it would have to be a Kia Picanto. £3k would pick you up a lowish mileage example on a 10 plate. Cheap to own and run and still has 2 years warranty. Run it for a couple of years and sell it for £2k. Then you have had some cheap motoring and gained a few years NCB.Something like THIS.

    That's ok if you are never going to do any motorway driving and have no passengers. Very very slow car. Plus it's hideous. Get a 05-08 Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, VW Polo, Fiat Panda etc, there's no need for your first car to be as slow as an electric scooter.

    if this is your first car and first year insurance and you have got 3k to spend on car and insurance then in theory you only have around £1500 to spend on car the rest will pretty much be eaten up by insurance

    MIDURIX

    That's ok if you are never going to do any motorway driving and have no … That's ok if you are never going to do any motorway driving and have no passengers. Very very slow car. Plus it's hideous. Get a 05-08 Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, VW Polo, Fiat Panda etc, there's no need for your first car to be as slow as an electric scooter.



    If you choose to not read the OP or what I wrote then thats your choice. The cars you listed cost more in everyway. It can take 3 passengers and despite what you think will do the speed limit with ease.

    i recently bought hyundai 2009 i20 for 3100 . 42k miles run, for my wife. very pleased with the little car. I drive new mk4 ford Mondeo which is fun to drive car but must say it's too big for a new driver.

    critster

    if this is your first car and first year insurance and you have got 3k to … if this is your first car and first year insurance and you have got 3k to spend on car and insurance then in theory you only have around £1500 to spend on car the rest will pretty much be eaten up by insurance


    Or spend 3K on the car, and pay for the insurance monthly.

    craigstephens

    Or spend 3K on the car, and pay for the insurance monthly.



    that is a option but losing £100+ out of a young persons wage each month (only assuming they are young) is a fair chunk.

    GAVINLEWISHUKD

    If you choose to not read the OP or what I wrote then thats your choice. … If you choose to not read the OP or what I wrote then thats your choice. The cars you listed cost more in everyway. It can take 3 passengers and despite what you think will do the speed limit with ease.

    4 people would take about 20 seconds so get to 60, would rather walk.

    MIDURIX

    4 people would take about 20 seconds so get to 60, would rather walk.



    Walk then. But you will never get to 60! X)

    I don't know why you would n ed a reliable car as your first one, my insurance basically halved after the first year, so all you need is a car to do one or maybe two years and then reevaluate everything. Either pay more and get something from a trusted dealer or just buy from a friend, family member or someone you know and expect it to last just about as long as you need it to.

    Yet another vote for the Honda Jazz. My wife has one and I liked it so much I bought one 2 weeks ago.

    People sayin Jap parts are expensive are wrong - front brake discs and pads for Jazz = 40 quid plus fitting.

    They also have the same cabin space as a Golf, but with reliability thrown in.

    adamwilko007

    School boy error not including that info ! Commute to work and social Not … School boy error not including that info ! Commute to work and social Not kids or petsWould mainly be me and then friends as passengers occasionally Thanks for your help



    After a lot of research, my son bought his first car a couple of years ago now. Being a young male, insurance was a big issue. He waited til he had held his licence 12 months before buying, which made it a lot cheaper. He bought a 12 year old Honda Civic SE Executive (think that is the name) via Gumtree. It had a full service history and one owner and was 1700 after a haggle. It has been a dream for him, no problems and he has had cheap services done at little local garages. Its sailed through its MOTs. It is very comfortable and spacious and he uses it like you for work and leisure , no kids etc. He could have got a smaller car with 30 less a month insurance but he really wanted a civic and hasnt regretted it. The insurance has dropped hugely already. The car COMFORTABLY sits five people and luggage. Hope this helps.

    If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for something a bit more exciting
    Edited by: "ding" 1st Jan 2015

    VW Golf mk 4 diesel.

    Great car for first time buyers.

    JP

    jp297

    VW Golf mk 4 diesel.Great car for first time buyers.JP



    my son agrees with that his first car is a mk 4 golf gti gets him up and down the motorway with ease

    ding

    If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for … If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for something a bit more exciting

    It is weird how in this country the Jazz is considered an old persons car whereas in most other countries it isn't, in Japan you could get it in loads of crazy colours and it was a cool car.

    MIDURIX

    It is weird how in this country the Jazz is considered an old persons car … It is weird how in this country the Jazz is considered an old persons car whereas in most other countries it isn't, in Japan you could get it in loads of crazy colours and it was a cool car.

    I had one as a courtesy car while my civic was being repaired, the kids hated it and wouldn't be seen in it

    ding

    I had one as a courtesy car while my civic was being repaired, the kids … I had one as a courtesy car while my civic was being repaired, the kids hated it and wouldn't be seen in it

    world.honda.com/new…to/

    Needs to be low cc to keep insurance down.

    ding

    If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for … If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for something a bit more exciting




    Utter nonsense, how can a suitable car be related to someone's age?

    The OP asked for a " reliable " car, any Honda will fit that bill.

    ding

    If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for … If your over 65 then a Honda jazz is fine but if your younger go for something a bit more exciting



    Ususally something exciting is expensive to insure and run and more likely to be crashed.

    Also some of the recomendations from people amaze me. A Mk4 Golf GTI. A group 28 car for a new driver! Thats one way of wasting lots of money.

    Banned

    moob

    Yet another vote for the Honda Jazz. My wife has one and I liked it so … Yet another vote for the Honda Jazz. My wife has one and I liked it so much I bought one 2 weeks ago. People sayin Jap parts are expensive are wrong - front brake discs and pads for Jazz = 40 quid plus fitting. They also have the same cabin space as a Golf, but with reliability thrown in.



    Was that genuine Honda parts?
    Cheapest genuine Honda front discs I can find are £100+
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