flying drones/cctv things in liverpool :O

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You can just picture it now...the gangsters will have one with guns on to shoot this one down.

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and/or walk around with new york size umbrellas to cover up?

1. They use 35mhz unencrypted controls meaning they can be jammed or possibly even stolen

2. Their max payload is 220grams, grams! and with this much they are at their absolute limit in terms of flying capacity, any gust of slight wind or rain and it's screwed, if it passes overhead near enough some people all you need is a net or tarp to cover it and its down or throw a few sticks and its down, should a bird land on it, it will crash... should anything fall on it, it will crash, it ie extremely light and flimsy.

3. The thing only has 2300mah battery, a typical laptop has more, meaning it can never be up for very long meaning people can just wait it out until it dies assuming they don't try to easily take it down.

4. It has a 100meter+ range, meaning the cops have to follow it in a car virtually assuming they don't put up a control network just for them (which would be many years away anyways), although in theory they could be controlled over gprs/hsdpa mobile signals, but for its implimentation for the near future, they may as well attend any suspcisous activity since they will be so close and/or put cctv on the car where it can run off the battery indefinately!!

5: These things look like they are made from approx £300 worth of parts but the Home Office and Police forces are spending thousands on each one in all these local trials of TAXPAYERS money for their own amusement.

6. The video cameras they offer are on 2.4ghz with crackable videocrypt, which any computer can decrypt meaning if anyone with some cheap equipment within range can record and watch what it is broadcasting, or even should they wish jam the video signal and/or replace it with their own signal with ease, it would be easy for criminals to obtain a cheap portable device to block the video signal at their pleasure should they wish (as they could normal mobiles and the £12billion digital tetra system which all UK police now use for radio, which in turn can be put to max capacity with extreme ease) all extremely vunerable technologies, ok for consumer amateur use, not for professional law enforcement imo.

The potential to steal, abuse, control and alter these things is amazing, cheap nasty overpriced (albeit 1st generational) gadgets the police want to play with. These are NOT an effective means of policing.

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can't wait for the first "downed" one to appear on ebay

schizoboy

1. They use 35mhz unencrypted controls meaning they can be jammed or … 1. They use 35mhz unencrypted controls meaning they can be jammed or possibly even stolen2. Their max payload is 220grams, grams! and with this much they are at their absolute limit in terms of flying capacity, any gust of slight wind or rain and it's screwed, if it passes overhead near enough some people all you need is a net or tarp to cover it and its down or throw a few sticks and its down, should a bird land on it, it will crash... should anything fall on it, it will crash, it ie extremely light and flimsy.3. The thing only has 2300mah battery, a typical laptop has more, meaning it can never be up for very long meaning people can just wait it out until it dies assuming they don't try to easily take it down.4. It has a 100meter+ range, meaning the cops have to follow it in a car virtually assuming they don't put up a control network just for them (which would be many years away anyways), although in theory they could be controlled over gprs/hsdpa mobile signals, but for its implimentation for the near future, they may as well attend any suspcisous activity since they will be so close and/or put cctv on the car where it can run off the battery indefinately!!5: These things look like they are made from approx £300 worth of parts but the Home Office and Police forces are spending thousands on each one in all these local trials of TAXPAYERS money for their own amusement.6. The video cameras they offer are on 2.4ghz with crackable videocrypt, which any computer can decrypt meaning if anyone with some cheap equipment within range can record and watch what it is broadcasting, or even should they wish jam the video signal and/or replace it with their own signal with ease, it would be easy for criminals to obtain a cheap portable device to block the video signal at their pleasure should they wish (as they could normal mobiles and the £12billion digital tetra system which all UK police now use for radio, which in turn can be put to max capacity with extreme ease) all extremely vunerable technologies, ok for consumer amateur use, not for professional law enforcement imo.The potential to steal, abuse, control and alter these things is amazing, cheap nasty overpriced (albeit 1st generational) gadgets the police want to play with. These are NOT an effective means of policing.




and you know this how?

This was a thing that got blown out of proportion - Merseyside Police never were going to use these - they were just looking at them as a possibility. They were looking at using these for patrolling schools and local railway lines in the summers, securing banks, and for pub/club runs. It never really "took-off" (i didn't plan that), and then the press got a hold of it. Well, have a guess what happened then.

Merseyside Police Operate An EC-135 Aircraft For Those uses - and i'm pretty sure they're currently happy with it - I know the lads up there ;-)

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/w/woodvale-g-xmii.jpg.73631.jpg.thumb

Oh, here's the thread on PPRUNE on this:-
pprune.org/for…010
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