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    Formatting a computer

    I know there are a few ways to do this.

    What the best 1 for totally deleting things to make them untraceable?

    Im selling my uncles computer to a friend of mine who is good with computers and dont want him being able to retrieve my uncles documents.

    Thanks

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    The only true way to make data on a hard drive unrecoverable is nuclear weapons.

    A ticket to North Korea is ~£1500

    let us know how you get on :thumbsup:

    deguass or sandblaster

    You need to use a program such as Darik's Boot and Nuke:

    dban.org/

    This will write over the entire hard disk with random binary several times so that the information is much much more difficult to retrieve.

    Original Poster

    So you think its best that he takes the hard drive out and buys a new 1?

    No, use the above!

    Original Poster

    will dban wipe windows off though?

    vengod;4390331

    So you think its best that he takes the hard drive out and buys a new 1?



    Only if you're really paranoid about privacy - or there's been something on the hard drive you really wouldn't want others to see. If your "friend" is the sort who would attempt this then you have a very strange taste in friends. :whistling:

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    tony_s1;4390447

    Only if you're really paranoid about privacy - or there's been something … Only if you're really paranoid about privacy - or there's been something on the hard drive you really wouldn't want others to see. If your "friend" is the sort who would attempt this then you have a very strange taste in friends. :whistling:



    Its my uncle and on it is all his companies documents - balance sheets etc.

    vengod;4390404

    will dban wipe windows off though?



    Well, it depends on how your HD is partitioned. If windows is on its own separate partition, then you could just erase the other partitions. I would guess that that isn't the case though, and you will have to erase it all. You could just re-install after wards though

    vengod;4390404

    will dban wipe windows off though?



    Yes, it will wipe everything, but thats the idea isn't it? :?

    Original Poster

    morris7;4390483

    Well, it depends on how your HD is partitioned. If windows is on its own … Well, it depends on how your HD is partitioned. If windows is on its own separate partition, then you could just erase the other partitions. I would guess that that isn't the case though, and you will have to erase it all. You could just re-install after wards though



    Ok thanks,

    Original Poster

    Im goin to use that dban for him.

    im just downloading windows vista as it was preloaded onto his comp. Do i burn to cd or dvd?

    Is there definately not a recovery partition? (Its probably DVD btw)

    Original Poster

    im using it now so i will screenshot what i see.

    Original Poster

    http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4296/41663014je9.th.jpg

    http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7116/69614177yp2.th.jpg

    Original Poster

    So do i need to make a windows disk or is it partitioned?

    Contact a company called Vogon international or use pctools

    Would destroying the partitions in the XP setup menu not solve the problem?

    Get some heavy duty software and wipe it several times.

    The recommended advice is to drive a couple of nails through the HDD and put it in the bin, not a joke. If you are going to do a complete wipe of the drive could you not just buy a cheap one to replace it and stick the other one in an external case to use as storage?

    Ungreat;4393145

    Get some heavy duty software and wipe it several times.The recommended … Get some heavy duty software and wipe it several times.The recommended advice is to drive a couple of nails through the HDD and put it in the bin, not a joke. If you are going to do a complete wipe of the drive could you not just buy a cheap one to replace it and stick the other one in an external case to use as storage?



    degauss is the way -

    Even after deleting or reformatting the hard drive, magnetic patterns of existing data still exists on the disk platters. Degaussing demagnetizes the entire hard drive including the disk platters - leaving no magnetic patterns on the hard drive.

    Once degaussed, the hard drive will be unusable and will not be recognized by the computer. In fact, the erasure is so deep that the factory written servo tracks on the disk platters are also demagnetized leaving no reference points for the read heads to key in on.

    Would an electro magnet they use at scrapyards wipe the darta 100%?

    I have a similar question, I have a Dell Desktop that I'm passing on to someone here. I was just planning to reinstall the OS rather than replace the HDD. You think this is unsafe? The disc is partitioned with 9.99 GB as a 'recovery' drive (D) btw.

    Liddle ol' me;4393572

    I have a similar question, I have a Dell Desktop that I'm passing on to … I have a similar question, I have a Dell Desktop that I'm passing on to someone here. I was just planning to reinstall the OS rather than replace the HDD. You think this is unsafe? The disc is partitioned with 9.99 GB as a 'recovery' drive (D) btw.



    If you use the dban software or similar you should be able to completely wipe the large partition (the one that isn't 9.99GB!) then use the recovery partition to reinstall Windows....

    dcx_badass;4393727

    Are you kidding me? Selling a PC with an illegal windows can get you into … Are you kidding me? Selling a PC with an illegal windows can get you into big big trouble, it might be ok, but if they ring MS when it says it is not genuine, and say they got it from you then you can get a huge fine, especially as you're not just using it yourself, you sold it.



    If its a normal Vista image and the valid key is used it shouldn't be a problem - it might not work if its a proprietary OEM key mind...

    dcx_badass;4393727

    Are you kidding me? Selling a PC with an illegal windows can get you into … Are you kidding me? Selling a PC with an illegal windows can get you into big big trouble, it might be ok, but if they ring MS when it says it is not genuine, and say they got it from you then you can get a huge fine, especially as you're not just using it yourself, you sold it.



    if you have product/license key its legit

    simple

    Alfonse;4393831

    if you have product/license key its legitsimple



    Well, not really quite that simple, if you have license key & Microsoft say its legit then its legit. Just having a product key doesn't mean Microsoft have authorised the use on a given machine, and if its a branded-OEM key and a generic software install the key might not be recognised as valid...

    jah128;4393943

    Well, not really quite that simple, if you have license key & Microsoft … Well, not really quite that simple, if you have license key & Microsoft say its legit then its legit. Just having a product key doesn't mean Microsoft have authorised the use on a given machine, and if its a branded-OEM key and a generic software install the key might not be recognised as valid...



    ok a LEGIT COA product key

    simple

    jah128;4393665

    If you use the dban software or similar you should be able to completely … If you use the dban software or similar you should be able to completely wipe the large partition (the one that isn't 9.99GB!) then use the recovery partition to reinstall Windows....



    Thanks - will do that then :thumbsup:

    Liddle ol' me;4393964

    Thanks - will do that then :thumbsup:



    If you know who you are selling it to and you aren't extra paranoid I'm not sure I would even bother! The restore on its own will format the Windows partition so it makes any data-retrieval hard (not impossible, but you would have to go to some effort to find anything and even more to find anything 'useful'...)

    jah128;4393987

    If you know who you are selling it to and you aren't extra paranoid I'm … If you know who you are selling it to and you aren't extra paranoid I'm not sure I would even bother! The restore on its own will format the Windows partition so it makes any data-retrieval hard (not impossible, but you would have to go to some effort to find anything and even more to find anything 'useful'...)



    Yes, only asked the question as some people do seem a bit paranoid about this. Selling to a member here who I don't know personally but have no reason to distrust. I'll maybe run DBAN anyway though, just for the experience - unless it takes hours to do the job, in which case I'll prob not bother.

    Original Poster

    Sold it to him, all wiped thanks.


    Also a related question on my behalf - Do you need to have an internal hard drive? My internal is full up of movies, so i was thinking of selling that to afford a bigger external...

    Original Poster

    Because i thought if i got external then i could plug it into tele to watch movies also...how do i know what kind of internal i need to buy?

    Ideally id like a 500 gb

    i think you need a media player not just a hdd

    Original Poster

    Oh..oh well..


    How much does a 500gb internal hard drive cost?

    How do i know what kind..Sata or others?

    lol

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass;4460307

    SATA or IDE. 500GB is under £50.



    Ive tried to find out which 1 mine is...


    Says ATA - guessing that means SATA

    if i use dban can then install windows on tht hardrive or is the hardrive useless?
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