Gambling Sites Cashback - hoping to start a discussion

10
Found 5th May 2013
Edit in response to comments: Gambling sites will pay cashback to players that stake a certain amount eg. Caesars bingo will pay £45 if you just play with £10 on their site, Hope you've got this far. I'd expected the TLDR comments but the rest is concise and relevant. Up to you if you can be bothered to read on.

Please forgive the sheer amount to read below. I've done a lot of gambling cashback chasing over the last few months. Done properly this should net a few hundred if the cashback comes through. To many of you, the info below will be old news but I am hopeful it will help some of you.

I would be interested to hear comments/advice to add to or challenge mine, especially thoughts on particular sites.

Below is my attempt at a beginners guide. Again, sorry for the amount to get through, but there's a lot to be aware of.

General points

1. Cashback sites get paid when they 'refer' a customer to a merchant (eg. Currys) who goes on to make a purchase. The cashback site will then pass some of that money back to the customer. To be 'referred', you need to click on the cashback website first, and then use that website's search facility to find the merchant you want. For gambling sites, instead of a purchase, a minimum deposit and wager is usually required to trigger cashback.

2. The cashback sites use cookies to track your purchase so make sure that cookies are enabled on your your browser. Also, it's a good idea to delete any cookies before opening a cashback site, this is because other sites may have left cookies that can claim any money that you want to go to the cashback site.

3. I have only looked at the main two UK cashback sites: Quidco and TopCashBack (TCB). Quidco will take £5/year off any cashback earned, TCB takes nothing. For some sites, Quidco has better cashback, for others - TCB (though they should match Quidco). You should receive the rate stated at the time you click through but rates can vary from day-to-day so those I'll quote below may not be true next week.

4. Double check any terms and conditions quoted on the cashback site

5. If you have an existing account (even a dormant one) with a website, you probably won't get cashback so don't bother. If the existing account is with a different site from the same group, (eg. Gala Bingo and Coral Casino are 'sister sites' owned by the same parent) you probably won't get anything. They check IP addresses, so using a different email/username/bank card probably won't work. Also note that Eurogrand, Prestige and Joyland Casinos are all part of the William Hill Group.

6. After clicking on the link to visit the website, a new window will open, click back to the original window to check that the cashback site has recorded the visit (a mini popup should appear).

7. Don't use a credit card to deposit - most credit card companies regard deposits on a gambling site as a cash withdrawal. This will come with a fee and interest is immediately payable. A debit card is ok however.

8. There are companies such as Neteller which can be useful for many gambling sites. You can open a Neteller account, add money to it (free by bank transfer or 1.75% charge from a card). The account can be used to deposit to and withdraw funds from the websites. Some sites require you to scan and email ID verification before making a withdrawal to a card, this should not be necessary with Neteller or similar sites. It can take a few days to set up, but it does stop the bank from seeing all the gambling transactions (my card was suspended as they thought it had been nicked after going on a few sites).

9. Check withdrawal rules very carefully before accepting any 'bonuses' when making your deposit. If you accept one, you may have to wager a huge amount of money to be able to withdraw anything at all. Some other sites will allow you to withdraw any remaining deposited cash if you have not met wagering requirements (but you cannot withdraw any winnings - even if you have played with your own money and not used the bonus amount which is used after deposited funds are lost). The best sites will allow you to withdraw winnings and deposited funds after a bonus as long as you have not dipped into bonus funds. Even these better sites won't let you withdraw bonus funds before meeting the wagering requirements - they're not daft.

To complicate matters, games with a low house 'edge' (ie ones that give a good return to the player such as roulette/blackjack) will often only count marginally towards wagering requirements. To explain with a typical scenario: If you deposit £30 and get a £30 bonus, you would have to wager 20x the bonus to be eligible to withdraw, ie you must wager £600. This would apply if you played on slots and kept winning enough times to stake a total of £600 (not likely). If you were playing blackjack, bets would only count 5% towards wagering requirements so you would need to stake £12000!

Some sites will impose a bonus without giving you the option to decline. If this happens and the terms are bad, they should have some form of 'live help' that you can click to get it removed. Do this before placing any bets however.

10. Cashback will take several weeks to become payable, often several months. It is not guaranteed, and the cashback sites will not pay you if they cannot recover payment from the website.

11. Topcashback can give up to £50 in Tesco Reward Points per year instead of cash. These can be exchanged for up to 4x their face value for days out etc. (worth checking out).

12. Don't get tempted to make more than the minimum deposit necessary to get the cashback. They will bombard you will bullsh*t emails to try to get you to deposit again. Maybe set up a new email address for the gambling sites

13. My preference for wagering was for blackjack, some video pokers and roulette also have a low house edge. A useful strategy guide is on this site: gamblingstrategy.co.uk/. Unless the terms of the cashback prohibit it, it's best to stick to these games and you should expect to withdraw most of your deposit as well as getting the cashback later.

14. Quidco and Topcashback carry user reviews of many of the sites. These are generally useful and warn you of the bad cashback payers, Some reviews are bullsh*t 5 star ones that ask you to enter the poster's referral code so they get a payment. Don't do this as it will probably nullify any cashback.

Ones that failed to track for me: Party Casino, Super Casino (and sister site Jackpot247), Inter Casino, Europa Casino, Slot Magix, Comfy Bingo

Ones that have paid quickly (within 8 weeks): Caesars, Gala, Mecca and Fabulous Bingo sites.

Several others have tracked and are awaiting payment.

Cashback amounts change frequently, check the sites. At the time of posting, a few of the good offers seem to be:

TCB
Caesars Bingo - £45 for a £10 deposited and wagered
Mecca Bingo - £28 for a £10 deposited and wagered
Gala bingo - £20 for a £10 deposited and wagered on bingo tickets

Quidco
William Hill Casino Club - £50 for £35 deposited and wagered

My next area of research is casino bonuses and which can be played through (on the right games) with a +ve expected gain after meeting wagering requirements to make a withdrawal.
Community Updates
MiscBettingCashback
10 Comments
TLDR
mboora

Where is the TDLR version?



Here it is:

You get cashback for signing up to gambling websites*


*If they actually pay out
Sportsbook bonuses offered directly through their sites rather than a specific cashback site are usually more profitable and predictable than casino-bagging. This is especially true if you stick to bets such as football 1X2s where rules are almost universal across books.

The principle is that you use the free cash offered by bookies to place bets and cover all the eventualities in an event so that you make a 'matched' return on your money whatever the outcome. There's a basic formula to work out matched bets - all the other fancy 10-page spreadsheets and clever handicap dutching bets, etc stem from this.

Imagine there are 2 possible outcomes to an event - A and B - then:

Bet 1:
Stake A * Odds A = Returns A
Bet 2:
Stake B = Returns A/Odds B

Simples
William hill aren't paying out. I haven't received my cashback and asked topcashback to investigate which they haven't. Stupidly I read the reviews after and loads are in the same boat. Always make sure to read other users reviews before you open an account.
The main rule is if you want cash and not just to play then never except bonuses as what they call playthrough is ridiculous something like x20 x33 etc and sometimes even higher that means if you have a £50 bonus and it says x20 that means you have to play a £1000 before you can actually get any money from the account.If you do accept the bonus just make sure what the playthrough bonus is per site.
Banned
I'll stick to the bandits.
Good info op, I am waiting for £30 from paddy power to pay out through TCB, I'm not very optimistic though.
Edited by: "jools19" 6th May 2013
Glastohoney

William hill aren't paying out. I haven't received my cashback and asked … William hill aren't paying out. I haven't received my cashback and asked topcashback to investigate which they haven't. Stupidly I read the reviews after and loads are in the same boat. Always make sure to read other users reviews before you open an account.



Same here, no payout from william hill but TCB continue to allow them to trade on their side despite paying out to no one

Ceasers paid out within a few months tho with no problems
Original Poster
custard_tart

Sportsbook bonuses offered directly through their sites rather than a … Sportsbook bonuses offered directly through their sites rather than a specific cashback site are usually more profitable and predictable than casino-bagging. This is especially true if you stick to bets such as football 1X2s where rules are almost universal across books. The principle is that you use the free cash offered by bookies to place bets and cover all the eventualities in an event so that you make a 'matched' return on your money whatever the outcome. There's a basic formula to work out matched bets - all the other fancy 10-page spreadsheets and clever handicap dutching bets, etc stem from this.Imagine there are 2 possible outcomes to an event - A and B - then:Bet 1:Stake A * Odds A = Returns ABet 2:Stake B = Returns A/Odds B Simples



Cheers for the tip. Never really looked at matched betting as it seemed like hard work, but noticed that Quidco doing £10 cashback with FixTheOdds at the moment. Will check it out.

Jools19 - Paddy Power tracked about 2 months with TCB for me. Not been confirmed yet but has not been declined, same for William Hill
The problem with TopCashback and Quidco type cashback sites is that they only give you a one-off cashback amount and there are wagering requirements you must fulfil before you are eligible for that cashback. If you actually are interested in playing at a casino/bingo site and want to save some cash then you'd be better off going with a site like Cashbacker where you get a refund based on a percentage of what you spend - so the wagering requirements etc are irrelevant - basically if you spend £10, you get 20% back. Really good scheme IMHO and they've always paid out as long as i've been with them.
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text

    Top Discussions