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    Want a decent gaming PC

    budget is 400 quid. with graphics card. or 300 without.

    no monitor needed

    want to be able to play Age of Conan

    thankyouplz.

    25 Comments

    Recommended Spec for Age of Conan.

    Recommended configuration (Up to 1280X960, most features on)

    OS: Windows XP SP 2 or Windows Vista
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz or equivalent
    RAM: 2048MB Dual Channel DDR2
    Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX or equivalent
    Video memory: 512MB
    DVD-ROM: Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
    HARD DRIVE SPACE: 30GB

    now....to meet spec ...

    Motherboard
    dabs.com/pro…e=1

    Processor
    dabs.com/pro…e=1

    RAM
    dabs.com/pro…e=1

    Total price (INC Del) £207.85

    Now...2 other things u will probable need are Case and PSU

    The case i HIGHLY recommend is
    dabs.com/pro…y=0

    For power supply you should be looking at >500W
    dabs.com/pro…000
    Will suffice.

    Total price is

    £336.96 Delivered....hmm a little over budget

    Now, im assuming you want to re-use your current HDD and Optical drives, if not then we're gonna have problems ;-)

    Whilst i have a very high oppinion of the Antec900 Case you may wish to stick with your current case which will save you £70 odd quid. Make sure it has adequate ventilation though!

    With regards to your graphics card.....

    Please do NOT skimp here. I recommend either an 8800GT 512MB, an 8800GTS 512MB (NOT 320MB) or a 9600GT 512MB

    scan.co.uk/Pro…278
    scan.co.uk/Pro…802

    are both worth a look.

    There are about a million other options but i hope this helps guide you along the way. Feel free to ask any more questions and i will post back if i can

    :thumbsup:

    BFM

    Whatever you do, aim for higher than Minimum spec... just trust me on this the game runs like a 3 legged donkey unless your throwing a lot at it.

    BFM has some sound advice, I am not gonna even try and match it, just agree with him. :thumbsup:

    You seem to have forgot the OS? Unless your planning on Linux which I doubt on a games PC, then your suppose to pay for it. :pirate: (£50+)

    BurningFeetMan;2218454

    ...:thumbsup:BFM


    Hmm...nice system, but on a budget, I would go for something like this:
    ebuyer.com/pro…101
    Or at least go for a cheaper case, they are often hugely overpriced, espeically the big named ones. You only need some good airflow, rails for new drives are handy but not worth the extra money, and how often do you actually look at your system anyway:roll:.
    Also I would say AMD is way better for gaming (arguable) and cheaper (fact);
    dabs.com/Pro…h=1
    That should bring you within buget.

    tazxxx;2218930

    Hmm...nice system, but on a budget, I would go for something like … Hmm...nice system, but on a budget, I would go for something like this:http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101 Or at least go for a cheaper case, they are often hugely overpriced, espeically the big named ones. You only need some good airflow, rails for new drives are handy but not worth the extra money, and how often do you actually look at your system anyway:roll:.



    I do agree with you to a certain degree. The reason i pointed out this case was i find it to be extremely quiet and has brilliant airflow. The case you pointed out seems also like a good one, however the psu supplied with it may just be a little underpowered. However, there is definately money to be saved by changing the case/psu combination i suggested.


    tazxxx;2218930

    Also I would say AMD is way better for gaming (arguable) and cheaper … Also I would say AMD is way better for gaming (arguable) and cheaper (fact);http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4DHT&CategorySelectedId=11147&NavigationKey=11147,4294956104,51070000&InMerch=1That should bring you within buget.



    With this i don't totally agree. I am, and always have been a fan of AMD, currently running a Phenom processor. I do think that the processor you pointed out is a little old. Whilst is a high speed processor it doesn't compete too well against the slower clock speed of the E8200 i suggesteed possibly due to instruction sets etc (though i am no expert!!!! ).

    Its worth taking a look on

    tomshardware.co.uk/cha…tml

    From there you can see the E8200 is approx. 20% faster than the AMD X2 6000.

    Anyway, there are millions of combinations available, once you make a decision on what you want, we can then help you find the best prices on those items.

    BFM

    BurningFeetMan;2219354

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/processors/3d-studio-max-9,369.htmlFrom there you can see the E8200 is approx. 20% faster than the AMD X2 6000.Anyway, there are millions of combinations available, once you make a decision on what you want, we can then help you find the best prices on those items.BFM


    Good link, surprising to see so much pink at the top tbh..
    And 22% faster too, although 15% more expensive.. (Also thats with some studio software, if you put it on warhammer its more like a 30% difference...)
    Proves that there is very little in it I suppose, especially if you shop around.
    Plus I find you usually have to have £10 to go over budget with, for little thinks like grease, extra fans etc.

    Original Poster

    thanks alot rep added.

    gunna go for one of those Graphics cards.
    not sure if i can spend 70 quid on a case tho
    might need more ram aswell?

    I was going to Build my own last summer than i found a site which was very cheap.

    [url]www.dinopc.com[/url].

    it seems like their prices have gone up not had chance to look proper :P mite be worth a gander ;-)

    pick a low system and add/take away what you need untill u get what u want:P

    Coolermaste Elite 330 with PSU

    ebuyer.com/pro…101

    is what i am using in all my builds at the moment, very good case, and screwless Optical/HDD and PCI slots

    Original Poster

    hmm with dino pc i got this:

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ AM2


    CPU Cooler: Standard CPU heatsink & fan


    Motherboard: Asus M2R32-MVP (AMD 580X Chipset, Firewire, Crossfire)


    Memory: 4.0GB Corsair DDR2 800mhz XMS2 (2x 2GB)


    £37.50

    Hard Drives: 250GB S-ATA2 3.0Gb/s


    Optical Drive: 20x DVD±RW DL S-ATA Lightscribe


    Graphics card: NVidia GeForce 8500GT 512MB


    Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio


    Operating System: None


    £-66.39

    PSU: 450W KingWin


    Case: Asus TA-210


    Warranty: 3 Year Bronze Warranty

    Reconfigure AMD 580X Crossfire Multimedia

    comes to 351 quid? any good?

    ummm, im sorry to say mate that i think for a gaming rig your 8500GT will struggle like mad, Take a look at TomsHardware (link in my previous post) and you will see. I also think that CPU is ....not the fastest about.

    You say you have £400 to spend including graphics...how certain is this? I only ask cause the pc you costed up there is £350 so im thinking maybe your looking at that as a target?

    Exactly which bits of your old pc will you be using? Optical drives? Hard Drives? Case? or perhaps none at all?

    Next question is warranty...do you really want to fork out on a warranty? All the parts will be minimum of 1year ( off the top of my head the graphics is normally 3, as is the cpu...the motherboard will probably be 1year and the RAM will likely be lifetime)

    Original Poster

    thanks for your input mate.
    ermmm ill be honest i dont know anythijng about comps?

    i know i have an AGP mother board atm.
    so does that mean that i can still use the dvd rw? or is that only for AGP?
    if i can ill still use that. but i definately need a new hard drive.
    gna check out toms hardware now
    thanks again for ur help.

    Original Poster

    just looked at tha toms hardware and makes no sence to me as a novice

    i hear theres dual core and quad core?
    cud i afford quadcore at my budget?
    or is it not worth it?

    Mclovin;2227337

    just looked at tha toms hardware and makes no sence to me as a novice :(i … just looked at tha toms hardware and makes no sence to me as a novice :(i hear theres dual core and quad core?cud i afford quadcore at my budget?or is it not worth it?



    You could get quad core but its only really of benefit for video editing etc, most normal software like office stuff internet etc see no benefit, would help for games but get cheap dual core overclock and wait for quad cores to fall in price

    What about this secure.scan.co.uk/Sho…ASP

    Very capable with massive upgrade potential and SLI no OS though don't no if you need one if so add 55 quid :thumbsup:

    elflembo;2227816

    You could get quad core but its only really of benefit for video editing … You could get quad core but its only really of benefit for video editing etc, most normal software like office stuff internet etc see no benefit, would help for games but get cheap dual core overclock and wait for quad cores to fall in priceWhat about this https://secure.scan.co.uk/Shop/ViewCart.ASPVery capable with massive upgrade potential and SLI no OS though don't no if you need one if so add 55 quid :thumbsup:



    Sorry mate, ur link wont work as its to your basket (cookie stored on your pc lol)

    Mclovin;2227816

    thanks for your input mate.ermmm ill be honest i dont know anythijng … thanks for your input mate.ermmm ill be honest i dont know anythijng about comps?i know i have an AGP mother board atm.so does that mean that i can still use the dvd rw? or is that only for AGP?if i can ill still use that. but i definately need a new hard drive.gna check out toms hardware now :Dthanks again for ur help.



    AGP is the slot that a graphics card plugs into mate. The new graphics cards use pci express (abbr PCI-E). AGP cards are now very expensive compared to their PCI-E counterparts.

    Your DVD-RW will more than likely be IDE (flat ribbon type cable) Nearly all new motherboards have at least one IDE slot so you will be able to reuse your DVD-RW.

    When getting a new HDD (hard disk drive) you will likely purchase a SATA type connector as opposed to IDE...This is a good thing and much neater to install

    I would not bother pushing yourself to get a quad core, it makes very very little difference for todays gaming unless you are running 64bit versions on a 64 bit operating system. Even then the difference is debatable. Stick to a good Dual Core, like the E8200 i suggested previously.

    Im sure i'll have forgotten something but any more questions just ask ok :thumbsup:

    BFM

    Original Poster

    hey thanks
    mate of mine said no point getin 4 gigs of ram on XP? as it wont work? is that true?

    Mclovin;2230218

    hey thanks :Dmate of mine said no point getin 4 gigs of ram on XP? as it … hey thanks :Dmate of mine said no point getin 4 gigs of ram on XP? as it wont work? is that true?



    Its sort of true, too complicated to go into, and i dont fully understnad it myself. However...XP (32bit) will see up to 4gig in total, however that includes video memory, so in effect you really only need a maximum of 3gig on XP TBH you wont notice a difference between 2 and 4 gig unless you do lots of simultaneous tasks. 4GB is always nice to have, but not a necessity with XP. Far better to spend the extra £30 or so on your graphics card as you say you want to play games!

    I'll leave ya with that for now

    BurningFeetMan;2230706

    Its sort of true, too complicated to go into, and i dont fully understnad … Its sort of true, too complicated to go into, and i dont fully understnad it myself. However...XP (32bit) will see up to 4gig in total, however that includes video memory, so in effect you really only need a maximum of 3gig on XP TBH you wont notice a difference between 2 and 4 gig unless you do lots of simultaneous tasks. 4GB is always nice to have, but not a necessity with XP. Far better to spend the extra £30 or so on your graphics card as you say you want to play games!I'll leave ya with that for now



    Valid comments but I think he might as well steer clear of XP.

    Firstly, aim to build rig running Vista 64 bit OS. (possibly running XP in a dual-boot set-up)
    In this scenario you'll get access to Direct X 10 (lots of features in Age of Conan support this so it's definitely worth it.)

    Secondly, go for more RAM if you can. You can pick up 2 sticks of 1GB dual-channel for about £30 at the moment, meaning thats 4GB for £60. You will notice the difference having the extra RAM in Vista and especially with a game like AoC so the upgrade is worth it. (you could even go for 2x2GB dual channel RAM, but I'm not sure how the price compares currently).

    Thirdly. Go for a DX10 graphics card with 512mb RAM (avoid anything lower, as 256mb will cause problems with a game like AoC). The 8800GT/9600GT and 3870 XT all offer a great price to performance ratio and are well worth the investment (around £100 at the moment). I have a 3870 XT Extreme and its great.

    Finally, I agree with the notion that getting a Dual Core CPU is best for 2 reasons. Firstly, I doubt very much that AoC will support more than 2 cores so 4 cores seems like a waste. Secondly, dual-core CPU's are far more over-clock'able than quad-cores and hence offer a better price : performance ratio. Get yourself a half-decent fan for it and you're away!

    Mclovin;2230218

    hey thanks :Dmate of mine said no point getin 4 gigs of ram on XP? as it … hey thanks :Dmate of mine said no point getin 4 gigs of ram on XP? as it wont work? is that true?



    Not true. Admittedly, XP will only allow you to use around 3.3GB it's still worth having the RAM when you run Vista. DRAM is so cheap nowadays that its an brilliant investment.
    *Also see my post above.*

    Original Poster

    Dogpitt;2230973

    Not true. Admittedly, XP will only allow you to use around 3.3GB it's … Not true. Admittedly, XP will only allow you to use around 3.3GB it's still worth having the RAM when you run Vista. DRAM is so cheap nowadays that its an brilliant investment.*Also see my post above.*



    thanks you made it very clear
    leaving rep. waiting for dad to get home cos hes better with comps and dnt wanna spend my cash on stuf i dont understand :P

    Original Poster

    oh i forgot to say. the first recommended thing all linked... is tha only for minimal requiremnts to AOC? or will it play it well?
    last question i promise

    The post i originally made in response to your question was for a PC that will run it pretty well tbh. Including g a GOOD graphics card (8800GT or 9600GT) it comes to £450. You can probly save 40/50 of that by changing the case i suggested. I really just mentioned that one cause im very impressed with it (i use it myself). You need a new HDD so lets say that including new HDD its probly £450

    Thats everything you need EXCEPT for a dvd-rw (which you plan to re-use) and an operating system (im thinking you have access to one....somewhere???? )

    BTW 4GB RAM is desireable, but if your skimping you can easily make do with 2GB and add a further 2GB later on down the road.

    Original Poster

    right thanks again for your help matey!
    think im gunna go ahead and buy those parts!

    Look at this before you do

    2.4gHz Allendale Core Pentium dual core (Core 2 Duo less cache) -- £55.21

    scan.co.uk/Pro…336

    Samsung 500Gb 16mb cache Sata DDD - £45.26

    scan.co.uk/Pro…357

    Coolermaster RC-330 V2 Elite Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU - £25.79

    scan.co.uk/Pro…780

    650W Coolermaster eXtreme PSU (RP-650-PCAP) - £46.94

    scan.co.uk/Pro…573

    Asus P5N-E SLI NF650i SLi, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX -- £55.45

    scan.co.uk/Pro…752

    2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12 -- £34.83

    scan.co.uk/Pro…849

    Novatech NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB SLI PCI Express Graphics Card – Retail -- £104.58

    hotukdeals.com/ite…104


    Component Cost
    CPU 55.21
    HDD 45.26
    CASE 25.79
    PSU 46.94
    MOBO 55.45
    MEMORY 34.83
    GFX 104.58
    Total 368.06

    Excellent starter machine with massive upgrade potential :thumbsup:

    elflembo;2232293

    Look at this before you do2.4gHz Allendale Core Pentium dual core (Core … Look at this before you do2.4gHz Allendale Core Pentium dual core (Core 2 Duo less cache) -- £55.21http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=736336Samsung 500Gb 16mb cache Sata DDD - £45.26http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=816357Coolermaster RC-330 V2 Elite Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU - £25.79http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=541780650W Coolermaster eXtreme PSU (RP-650-PCAP) - £46.94http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=603573Asus P5N-E SLI NF650i SLi, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX -- £55.45http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=5297522GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12 -- £34.83http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=402849Novatech NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB SLI PCI Express Graphics Card – Retail -- £104.58http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/193768/zotac-8800-gt-amp-edition-512mb-104Component CostCPU 55.21HDD 45.26CASE 25.79PSU 46.94MOBO 55.45MEMORY 34.83GFX 104.58Total 368.06Excellent starter machine with massive upgrade potential :thumbsup:



    Some good components there. I certainly agree with going for quality, branded PSU (very important!). 450watts or more should do it for your needs.

    The CPU is low-spec, but should be enough. You might even be able to get a e6600 for a little bit more; they've been out a year or 2 but are very over-clock'able. I have one and I recommend them!

    Check out the Zotac 8800GT on hotdeals at the moment as it's pre-overclocked and will cost about £102 after quidco!

    Do you really need a Hard disk drive replacement? If not, put the money towards more RAM! Corsair is good, but also consider Geil too. Can be slightly cheaper and also have a lifetime warranty. Once again, they're very over-clock'able...
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