GAMING PC QUERIES

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Found 1st Feb
I am considering getting a gaming Pc. I’ve been recommended certain specs.
Intel i7 processor cpu
16gb ddr ram
Geforce gtx 1080 gpu

Can someone please help? I want it to be as future proof as possible and don’t mind spend up to 2k.

Also where would be best and most reliable to buy?
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are you building it or are you palling on getting it already to go?
It's only a couple more months until we start seeing the next gen of nvidia graphics cards. It might be sensible to wait for that rather than buying a 1080 right now at an over inflated price.

You should get an amazing pc for that budget, particularly if building it yourself.
The best way to future proof is to buy a PC in the future. Instead of a £2000 PC buy three successive £700 PCs instead. You'll be enjoying games on two grand worth of hardware at least twice as long that way.

High end components are aimed at those that want cutting edge image quality, but to keep up with the cutting edge you'd also need to replace them every couple of years.
my pc was built in 2010 and has these specs
Intel i7 processor cpu
16gb ddr ram

it's very vague advice
Would be better to go for decent Intel i5 and 1080Ti than i7 and 1080.
General advice has been to get an i5 not an i7 and use the money on other parts instead.
Edited by: "dcx_badass" 1st Feb
Depends what your trying to do, if you can go for a high end processor like an i7 8700k, good ram and mobo. M2 pcie ssd will give you better speeds. And get a good graphics card. You’ll end up replacing the graphics in 2-3 years time but the processor, ram, mobo will still be ok to use for another 2-3 years after. Then after that I’ll be a complete revamp. That’s how I renew my pc and I’m still playing games on high on my 2012 processor (just ordered an i7 8700k/mobo/ram/pcie ssd which is coming tomorrow *excited*).
Depends if you want 4k and VR support. Gaming PCs in general are pretty barebones so shouldn't cost the earth. It's only when you start pimping the specs it gets expensive.
Original Poster
Ok thank you guys, would this be a good starting pre built setup?

ebuyer.com/770…109

Would love to know what you guys think?
P3llooo1 h, 24 m ago

Ok thank you guys, would this be a good starting pre built …Ok thank you guys, would this be a good starting pre built setup?https://www.ebuyer.com/770928-pc-specialist-vanquish-gamer-pro-vr-ii-gaming-pc-pcs-d1165109Would love to know what you guys think?


PSU isn't too great I would swap to At least a CX in the corsair range. I would build your own if possible. You want a good solid PSU as you tend to keep them for about 10 years compared to the rest of the system.
kester765 h, 4 m ago

PSU isn't too great I would swap to At least a CX in the corsair range. I …PSU isn't too great I would swap to At least a CX in the corsair range. I would build your own if possible. You want a good solid PSU as you tend to keep them for about 10 years compared to the rest of the system.


Agree need a good cpu! A bad one can at worst fry all your expensive parts, given the different between a good one and a bad one is usually only about £20-40 it’s crazy to try and save money on that part give that it could cost you hundreds more.
EndlessWaves20 h, 23 m ago

The best way to future proof is to buy a PC in the future. Instead of a …The best way to future proof is to buy a PC in the future. Instead of a £2000 PC buy three successive £700 PCs instead. You'll be enjoying games on two grand worth of hardware at least twice as long that way.High end components are aimed at those that want cutting edge image quality, but to keep up with the cutting edge you'd also need to replace them every couple of years.


OP, don't do this. PC gaming isn't about having a succession of naff PCs, each with components scraped for the bottom of the barrel for that "Oh well, it's good enough for me, I suppose" quality of experience. If you can afford to spend up to £2k, then you can afford PC gaming at its most luxurious. You can afford that premium 144@1440p experience with all the trimmings. You don't need to potter along with three rounds of the 60@1080p experience.

Your best option usually for a future-proof system is to buy a high-end CPU (processor gains, YoY, are generally very low, so it's worth spending extra on something especially good for all the years you may use that chip), and then also to buy a high-end GPU which you should be prepared to sell on eBay when each successive replacement high-end GPU hits the market. You'll also want plenty of storage (a 500GB NVME SSD would be ideal), and a good helping of fast RAM (ideally 16GB+ of DDR4 3000). Building your own is the way to go, if for control if not value or performance, and there are plenty of guides on Youtube to help you do this.
dxx21 m ago

OP, don't do this. PC gaming isn't about having a succession of naff PCs, …OP, don't do this. PC gaming isn't about having a succession of naff PCs, each with components scraped for the bottom of the barrel for that "Oh well, it's good enough for me, I suppose" quality of experience. If you can afford to spend up to £2k, then you can afford PC gaming at its most luxurious.


Scraping the bottom of the barrel is a wild exaggeration, FHD@60hz is as good or better than any other game platform out there (with the possibly exception of HDR, which isn't particularly performance intensive and won't need a a high end PC to go along with the expensive display).

I wasn't particularly suggesting one path or the other, I was pointing out that high end components are best for the sort of scenario you've described. Chasing the cutting edge and being replaced every time something new and substantially better comes out.
I just got this for a £1200.
It’s for office work and the odd casual game.
CAS: Cooler Master MasterCase H500P RGB High Air Flow Gaming Case w/
Tempered Glass Side Panel [+61]
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CD: NONE
CD2: NONE
COOL: NONE
CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i5-8600K Six Core OC 4.30 GHz 9MB Cache LGA1151 +
UHD Graphics *** Extreme OC ***
CS_FAN: Default Case Fan
EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
FAN: Cooler Master Seidon 240V High Performance Liquid Cooling system
w/ 240mm Radiator *** Extreme OC *** (For Silent and High Performance
- AKASA Silent Fans, 1200rpm w/ Sleeve Ball Bearing and LED light ***
Extreme OC *** [+10])
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: Intel VR Bundle [+0]
HD_M2PCIE: None
HDD: 250 GB Samsung 850 EVO SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Drive)
HDD2: 2TB Seagate SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200rpm Hard Drive (Single Hard Drive)
HOLIDAY1: CyberPower Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]
HOMEINSTALL: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE
M2SSD: None
MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/2400mhz Dual Channel Memory (Adata XPG Z1
w/Heat Spreader)
MONITOR: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Prime Z370-P INTEL Z370 Chipset, ATX Mainboard w/ 4
RAM slots, USB 3.1, 1 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe x4, 4 x PCIe x1, 4 SATA3, 2
x M.2
MOUSE: NONE
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT — As standard on all PCs
OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY(NO OVERCLOCKING AVAILABLE) [-67]
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
PCABLE: NONE
POWERSUPPLY: Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 600W 80+ Gaming Power Supply
RUSH: Standard Processing Time
SLI_BRIDGE: None
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE
TEMP: NONE
USB1: Built-in USB Ports [+0]
VIDEO: MSI GeForce(R) GTX 1070Ti 8GB Video Card VR READY (Single Card)
VIVE_HEADSET: None
WARRANTY: DESKTOP SILVER WARRANTY: 3 Year Labour, 2 Year Parts, 1 Year
Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
ferlan14 h, 35 m ago

It’s for office work and the odd casual game.


Another massive understatement warning there.
Sales people must love you, ferlan.

It's a really bad time to buy a graphics card. My advice is to buy a 1050Ti (still somehow at a reasonable price) for now and upgrade as soon as gpu prices improve. Similar advice for ram too.

PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…2QV
Price breakdown by merchant: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…nt/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£134.71 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£118.49 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£59.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£63.82 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB StormX Video Card (£139.99 @ Novatech)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£27.48 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.46 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £668.24

Add about £250 for a better gpu when the market improves.
Edited by: "bjrosl" 3rd Feb
bjrosl2 h, 49 m ago

Sales people must love you, ferlan.It's a really bad time to buy a …Sales people must love you, ferlan.It's a really bad time to buy a graphics card. My advice is to buy a 1050Ti (still somehow at a reasonable price) for now and upgrade as soon as gpu prices improve. Similar advice for ram too.PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CmB2QVPrice breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CmB2QV/by_merchant/CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£134.71 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£118.49 @ CCL Computers) Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£59.30 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£63.82 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.99 @ Amazon UK) Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB StormX Video Card (£139.99 @ Novatech) Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£27.48 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.46 @ Amazon UK) Total: £668.24Add about £250 for a better gpu when the market improves.


And why not? I just handed over £1200 for a great little PC. Why are you recommending a £600 bottom shelf gaming machine when he said he didn’t mind whacking down £2k?
It’s like asking for a sports car and you recommending an Aygo and stating wait for the Ferrari to drop in price.
He wants to play games now not in 6-8 months time.
ferlan34 m ago

And why not? I just handed over £1200 for a great little PC. Why are you …And why not? I just handed over £1200 for a great little PC. Why are you recommending a £600 bottom shelf gaming machine when he said he didn’t mind whacking down £2k?It’s like asking for a sports car and you recommending an Aygo and stating wait for the Ferrari to drop in price. He wants to play games now not in 6-8 months time.


Hardly an Aygo. Nobody's recommending he buys a mainstream laptop with integrated graphics.

More a Lotus Elise or Jaguar F-type. A £50,000 car that may not be as fast or rare as a £200,000 Ferrari, but will still be great fun to drive and turn heads.
ferlan1 h, 20 m ago

And why not? I just handed over £1200 for a great little PC. Why are you …And why not? I just handed over £1200 for a great little PC. Why are you recommending a £600 bottom shelf gaming machine when he said he didn’t mind whacking down £2k?It’s like asking for a sports car and you recommending an Aygo and stating wait for the Ferrari to drop in price. He wants to play games now not in 6-8 months time.


You clearly haven't got a clue. You can try really hard to convince us all (and yourself) that you got a great deal, but we're not falling for it.

As others who know more than you have tried to explain, it's better to spend that £2000 over a period of time, rather than blowing it all at once. With my advice, he'll be able to game at top performance for 6 - 9 years on that £2000.
Original Poster
Ok thanks for the advice guys, now all I want to know is will GPU prices decrease when the newer models are released? (March)
P3llooo11 h, 4 m ago

Ok thanks for the advice guys, now all I want to know is will GPU prices …Ok thanks for the advice guys, now all I want to know is will GPU prices decrease when the newer models are released? (March)


Usually they would but GPU prices are unusual at the moment due to the mining craze so it's difficult to tell.

p.s. March may be optimistic. We haven't seen a new architecture release that early in the year for some time now. The last few have been
GCN 5: August
GCN 4: June
Pascal: May
Maxwell: September
GCN 3: September
GCN 2: October

The last time I remember an early launch happening was back in 2012, when GCN 1 launched in January and Kepler launched in March.
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