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    God or Evolution

    Did God put us here? Or did we just evolve over many many years?

    Stupid question really..But last night I was talking to my other half and she just refuses to budge from the idea that god put us on here.

    In the end i just said that i cant believe in something or someone like God until he gives me a ring

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    uh oh, Science Versus Religion,

    answer = Science and Religion must stay at least 500yds from each other at all times.

    Evolution, the whole God thing is ridiculous, apparently we just appeared 7000 years ago and everything telling us otherwise is a test or wrong!

    Anything other than 'tits' and 'chuffs' is a little bit to deep for the average HUKD'er.

    Have you tried 'discussion time' on M.S.E?

    Original Poster

    My winning point was "So where did the talking snake go?"
    Or did Adam eat it?

    akme;2371642

    My winning point was "So where did the talking snake go?"Or did Adam eat … My winning point was "So where did the talking snake go?"Or did Adam eat it?



    What about this point, if there were just 2 humans 7000 years ago, and all but 4 got wiped out in a flood between then and now, how can there be nearly 7 Billion people :?

    If you want an in depth and definitive arguement for Evolution, read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins.

    Everyones entitled to their faith and opinion, what isn't right is the forcing of ideas onto others.

    KELLY 'N' STEVE;2371680

    No comment - these kind of questions really irritate me as we will never … No comment - these kind of questions really irritate me as we will never know the real answer for sure!



    No comment? But you clearly have :whistling:

    No comment - these kind of questions really irritate me as we will never know the real answer for sure!

    Robotochan;2371654

    What about this point, if there were just 2 humans 7000 years ago, and … What about this point, if there were just 2 humans 7000 years ago, and all but 4 got wiped out in a flood between then and now, how can there be nearly 7 Billion people :?



    All but 5 actually

    Think how many generations there have been since the flood and then keep multiplying by a factor of 4 and you can see that it's possible

    It's a what you believe question, do you believe god put us here 7000 years ago or do you believe we evolved from Apes?

    Original Poster

    Celticsun;2371679

    If you want an in depth and definitive arguement for Evolution, read 'The … If you want an in depth and definitive arguement for Evolution, read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins.Everyones entitled to their faith and opinion, what isn't right is the forcing of ideas onto others.



    Yeah thats it...Nobody can laugh at someone for something they strongly believe in.

    We both ended it by calling each other stupid :-D

    thesaint;2371641

    Anything other than 'tits' and 'chuffs' is a little bit to deep for the … Anything other than 'tits' and 'chuffs' is a little bit to deep for the average HUKD'er. :)Have you tried 'discussion time' on M.S.E?



    Infraction for innapropriate language on its way for you mister.

    back on topic...... damn scientists and their pesky evidence say Evolution

    akme

    or someone like God until he gives me a ring



    what is ya number? I'll give you a call when I get a chance.

    God wins and yes he did create evolution!

    Think of the inbreeding, Adam and Eve's son and daughter would have had to get it on to produce some genetic freaks who would then have to get it on again with their new cousins etc etc...then 'God' would have punished them all for sinning...lol

    Seriously how ridiculous can this whole Religion fairy story get. The Bible is a basic rule book, mostly good, some bad, again seriously....a talking snake, a forbidden fruit, fig leaves, sin etc etc its so far out there and whacked out, I cannot believe anyone with an IQ over 25 can believe this stuff.

    Religion is about 2 things control and money, nothing else. Has anyone been to the Vatican, they could end world debt by auctioning off that place, to think the Pope is ex SS, just makes the whole thing even more ludicrous, and lets not even mention the child abuse by the RC church being covered up...:?

    Yes I DID put you all here. Now run along, got a game of celestial tennis booked at 2, mixed doubles, me and Jesus against Satan and his lad . . . . .

    Original Poster

    Havnt they said that we all started off from Africa?

    what abot the good things - like faith, hope and charity
    Imagine if the world - the whole world no longer believed in god or an afterlife, what sort of chaos would there be.the world would not have survived, religion may be bad in areas and becoming more so these days and people use religion but on the whole it keeps us alive, it gives us hope we are charitable to one another in the hope that they will do the same to us.
    I honestly, personally, cannot see life without christianity, it would all seem so pointless
    I totally agree there are a lot of things wrong with it but on the whole it is good and believes in good
    "may your god go with you"

    The aliens put us here.
    David Icke has all the answers ... he has his own website! davidicke.com/ind…hp/
    Honest.This website is full of fact after fact.
    And that is a FACT.

    http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w135/goal4ziggy/tinfoil-hat.jpg

    Haha Waffles, I've heard about him, it is actually plausible... in a way.

    OK I'm a Humanist (Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that upholds human reason, ethics, and justice, and rejects supernaturalism, pseudo-science and superstition.) I don't believe Religion is the only thing that stops us from going crazy nor do I think it's the only thing that makes us treat others with respect. The only thing I think about religion is that some believe in it, that's fine, but don't push it on children, it's unfair to indoctrinate them before they can think freely for themselves.

    Imagine the first conversation between man and woman.

    Look, theres only the five of us. We need to make more people and theres only so much I can do on my own...

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    Not sure what I beleive !!!! But I do beleive that the church has a place in society, it brings a place for some people to meet others and enjoy their company. A lot of people have nowhere else to fit in - lonely people and vulneralbe people. The church does not only throw themselves to the floor and pray they also arrange lots of activities for local people, fun stuff, community meals for the elderly etc and they don't have to believe in God.

    I don't think I beleive in God but do I really want to think I evolved from an ape - now if I look at my husband maybe I could see it :-D

    People just need to understand that life...just is...life. Our sole purpose is to survive and procreate. As our mental abilities have evolved over the millenia, our mental capacity has taken over our somewhat fragile bodies, hence we are unwilling/unable to accept our short physical exitences without having some 'higher' meaning or purpose. Life is life, behave and enjoy it...

    For clear signs of devolution, enter most bars on a Friday or Saturday night and you wont have to go far...

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    Beserker;2371927

    For clear signs of devolution, enter most bars on a Friday or Saturday … For clear signs of devolution, enter most bars on a Friday or Saturday night and you wont have to go far...




    Hahaha I like it

    So if it was evolution what or who made the things we evolved from?

    Robotochan;2371908

    Haha Waffles, I've heard about him, it is actually plausible... in a … Haha Waffles, I've heard about him, it is actually plausible... in a way.OK I'm a Humanist (Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that upholds human reason, ethics, and justice, and rejects supernaturalism, pseudo-science and superstition.) I don't believe Religion is the only thing that stops us from going crazy nor do I think it's the only thing that makes us treat others with respect. The only thing I think about religion is that some believe in it, that's fine, but don't push it on children, it's unfair to indoctrinate them before they can think freely for themselves.



    Haha indeed. He reckons that i have descended from other reptilian lifeforms from other planets and not descended from apes like the rest of society! My blood group is 'pure' and is not able to be cloned ... we are called the illuminati!
    Be scared .. be very scared.
    Honest... you have to keep a sense of humour sometimes or we'd all be running round in fits of paranoia constantly!:-D

    KELLY 'N' STEVE;2371947

    So if it was evolution what or who made the things we evolved from?



    A random collection of material created the first bacteria, bacteria has been found to grow pretty much anywhere on earth. It truly is the building blocks of life.

    when will we evolve to have another pair of hands because one pair isnt enough

    KELLY 'N' STEVE;2371947

    So if it was evolution what or who made the things we evolved from?



    Deep sea experiments done a few years ago proved that under the right conditions certain combinations of materials will form 'cell like' structures with protective membranes. Not yet anywhere near alive but an interesting find.

    Robotochan;2371966

    A random collection of material created the first bacteria, bacteria has … A random collection of material created the first bacteria, bacteria has been found to grow pretty much anywhere on earth. It truly is the building blocks of life.



    Ahhhh, but where did the bacteria come from and the thing that put bacteria into existence - where did that come from. It's the infinite question....

    Sheriff Waffles;2372020

    Ahhhh, but where did the bacteria come from and the thing that put … Ahhhh, but where did the bacteria come from and the thing that put bacteria into existence - where did that come from. It's the infinite question....



    Ultimately the big bang and before that was another universe and before that a big bang etc. it's an infinite loop :thinking:

    It's all about the amino acids baby...

    Meteorites crashed into earth carrying some basic forms of amino acids the real building blocks of life, its the only way.

    We could start getting into Quantum physics, multiple dimensions and string theory but I suspect being a Monday morning our primitive brains may actually blend and seep out of our nostrils.

    Has anyone read Schrodingers cat? Mind bending stuff :?

    I honestly don't understand Schrödinger cat experiment

    Neither do most of us mere mortals ...maybe if we had 'God-like' knowledge...we would get it

    TO those of you who haven't read it. the basic basic version which I kjust about get is something existing to 2 or more states at once.

    It's based on a procelain cat which is placed under a box...and remember this is the most basic version I can think of putting down...now can you tell me within a 100% accuracy that the porcelain cat is still in it's unbroken state????? I mean really really really 100% or maybe it would be 99.999999%, it works on the theory that nothing ever is certain other than death I suppose, but the cat could be in a broken state and 'full' state...at the same time...LIke I said mind bending stuff....worth a read though if any of you are bored of searching for bargains

    Anyone seen the newish Family Guy where they turn on one of the Christian Channels and they've got the awful voice over...I think they're talking about dinosaurs and as they begin to talk, theres the really badly cut in voice "dinousaurs...."WERE PLACED HERE BY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD" Brillaint :-D

    Beserker;2372151

    Neither do most of us mere mortals ...maybe if we had 'God-like' … Neither do most of us mere mortals ...maybe if we had 'God-like' knowledge...we would get it :)TO those of you who haven't read it. the basic basic version which I kjust about get is something existing to 2 or more states at once.It's based on a procelain cat which is placed under a box...and remember this is the most basic version I can think of putting down...now can you tell me within a 100% accuracy that the porcelain cat is still in it's unbroken state????? I mean really really really 100% or maybe it would be 99.999999%, it works on the theory that nothing ever is certain other than death I suppose, but the cat could be in a broken state and 'full' state...at the same time...LIke I said mind bending stuff....worth a read though if any of you are bored of searching for bargains



    Its kinda like Metaphysics from my philosophy module at Uni, the chair is there when you are in the room but it is really still there when you leave the room or the room for that fact, or does it like the environment around you just appear at that time when you get there??

    lol

    Alfonse;2372228

    Its kinda like Metaphysics from my philosophy module at Uni, the chair is … Its kinda like Metaphysics from my philosophy module at Uni, the chair is there when you are in the room but it is really still there when you leave the room or the room for that fact, or does it like the environment around you just appear at that time when you get there?? lol



    Good stuff I like it

    We could expand this into reality tunnels and the multi verses. IE How many universes are there, to the human race, theres about 6.5 billion of us, so thats 6.5 billion universes as we all interpret the world around us differently ie we all have our own reality tunnels. My reality tunnel as I sit here when I should be working is very different to say a coal miner in China who risks life and limb every day.

    I'm getting that 'does it blend' feeling in my head

    :prop:

    Beserker;2372281

    Good stuff I like it :)We could expand this into reality tunnels and the … Good stuff I like it :)We could expand this into reality tunnels and the multi verses. IE How many universes are there, to the human race, theres about 6.5 billion of us, so thats 6.5 billion universes as we all interpret the world around us differently ie we all have our own reality tunnels. My reality tunnel as I sit here when I should be working is very different to say a coal miner in China who risks life and limb every day. I'm getting that 'does it blend' feeling in my head :):prop:



    lol, "does it blend"

    reminds of me this ]http//ww…kE0 genius "excuse me I have to go to space now."

    lmao

    Maybe God was an early version of Tony Hart and we all started off as Morphs?
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