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    Good deal for quad core system?

    Hi all, spec'd up PC at DinoPC reckon this is Good deal for quad core system? don't need for gaming, just loads of windows/tabs open, application servers etc.

    CPU: Intel® Core 2 Quad Q8200
    CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Golden Orb II
    Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro (Intel P45 chipset, Crossfire)
    Memory: 4.0GB Corsair DDR2 800mhz XMS2 (2x 2GB)
    Hard Drives: 1TB S-ATAII 3.0Gb/s
    Optical Drive: 20x DVD±RW DL
    Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB
    Sound card: Onboard 5.1 Audio
    Operating System: No Operating System - I will install my own Ubuntu
    PSU: 500W Eagle
    Case: Antec Three Hundred
    Warranty: 3 Year Bronze Warranty

    £558.49 + £15 P&P = £573.49

    Tempted to buy the bits and make it myself? but spec up at ebuyer and it came out more.

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    It's a decent gaming system, but if you're not running games on it, there's really no point spending money on things like Corsair memory, a Thermaltake heatsink, a crossfire P45 motherboard and such. Build the PC yourself with parts from eBuyer, you can have something equally powerful as a non-gaming system, except for some £250 less.

    And then put a proper operating system on it.

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    + A Duorb

    About the same tbh, although you do get a 4850 at ebuyer.

    Original Poster

    my thinking was buying branded memory and decent heatsink would increase the system stability.

    As for OS is was gonna dual boot ubuntu 9 and windows 7

    it's 4:20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY

    Bad value the cpu is the worst quad with lowest cache cheap nasty psu which is the most important part and memory is dirt cheap if your spending that sort of money spend a little more and get an i7 as this is old straight away.

    If you want to be able run Windows 7 with virtual XP support then don't go for the Q8200 - it doesn't have VT support.
    Some details here: vista123.net/con…s-7

    From what I've read the Q6600, Q9300, Q9400, Q9450, Q9550, and Q9650 all support VT but the Q8200, Q8300, Q8400 do not.

    Original Poster

    so which are the key components not to skimp on? psu? keen on getting an energy efficient one. But also low system noise would be a great thing

    ]Cheers Spod

    Add in £20 for odds and ends and you've got a decent system visualization is supported on the Q6700 and these will clock to 3.5ghz with the cooler I've speced the psu is capable and a decent spec if you want to add £20 you can replace with corsair 400watt which will be more than enough the graphics card is a jump from the previous post and its a dual slot cooler the case can be changed but its a nice case. comes in at £494.70 delivered but if you have a hexus account you can scrub the £10 postage even with the £20 for odds and ends is a big savings for a much better rig.

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    Well a core 2 quad 9400 would probably add about £60 to the system but it would be quite a bit faster (both faster clock speed and larger cache; 6MB as opposed to the Q8200 4MB cache) and I believe it is a lower power chip as well. Core i7 might push you out of your price bracket but it is definitely the quickest thing around at the moment.

    Yes, a good PSU is definitely worthwhile too.

    polly69;5281997



    Plus a DVD Drive @ around £15 :thumbsup:

    sorry but i did say £20 for bits and dabs so it will be counted.

    scottyb;5281571

    my thinking was buying branded memory and decent heatsink would increase … my thinking was buying branded memory and decent heatsink would increase the system stability.



    Well, it'll be either stable or overheating. The memory you've got is basic decent stuff though, the sort of thing you should be getting for this sort of system.

    As for the cooler, isn't that a rather old one? If you're after a really quiet system you might be able to do better.

    My main concern - as well as the lack of branded power supply others have mentioned - is the graphics card. If you're not going to be using it's processing capabilities then I'd go for a lower power graphics card as that'll use less power as well as generate less heat, a passively cooled one might be worth looking at for the silence aspect.

    Original Poster

    Thanks for the advice guys, after some reading around, i managed to get a better spec machine (for what I need) for £60 cheaper. I downgraded my GPU, upgraded PSU to branded efficient one. Also when for Quad Q6700 as it supports Win7 virtualisation. Also opt'd for a slightly better Mobo as it is more energy efficent and supported DDR3 Ram. Might upgrade to Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, Yorkfield Core if they drop in price.

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700, Kentsfield Core, S775, 2.66 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache, 10x Multiplier, OEM£114.99£132.24
    4GB (2x2GB) CorsairTwinX DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333) 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24£47.99£55.19
    Akasa Nero AK-967 Intel LGA 1366 (S775/1366/939/940/AM2/AM2+) , Heat Pipe cooler, 120mm PWM fan,£20.85£23.98
    Gigabyte GA-EP45C-DS3R, iP45 Express, S775, PCI-E 2.0 x16, DDR2/3 1066/1333/1600, SATA II/RAID, ATX£86.47£99.44

    512MB Sapphire HD 3450, PCI-E 2.0, 1000MHz GDDR2, 600MHz GPU, 40 Cores, DL DVI-I/ D-Dub/ HDTV, HDCP£23.99£27.59


    1TB Samsung HD103UI, EcoGreen F1 DT, SATA 3Gb/s HDD, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ + 45cm Akasa AK-CB053 £56.99£65.54
    LG GH22NS40 22x DVD±R, 16xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM + 36pcs Targus CDProject£13.99£16.09

    400W FSP Blue storm II PSU Efficiency >85%, Quiet 120mm Fan, PCI-E, SATA ATX 12V V2.2 + dual 12V £34.99£40.24
    Antec Three Hundred Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU£39.97£45.97
    90cm Scan SATAII Cable Blue UV Reactive£1.19£1.37
    45cm Akasa AK-CB053 SATA II cable with Latch connector - Red/Black Cable £0.99£1.14
    100cm Akasa AK-CB054 SATA II cable with Latch connector - Red/Black Cable £1.49£1.71

    Total£510.49

    scottyb;5316627

    Might upgrade to Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, Yorkfield Core if they drop in … Might upgrade to Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, Yorkfield Core if they drop in price. ...Total£510.49



    I think the Q9550 upgrade would be a good idea if you're going as power efficient as possible as it's slightly better than the Q6700 in that respect.

    The rest looks good, not how I'd have done it but it's a free country so you're entitled to like Samsung ;-). You will almost certainly get a couple of SATA cables with the motherboard so unless you've some strange reason for using latched cables (I don't think the Three Hundred has the drives suspended vertically) or lots of drives you can knock them off the list

    Although it might be slightly more expensive, Core i7 might be the way to go for a non-gaming machine. It is sure to have a better upgradability path than s775 and although nothing is considered future-proof in this game, I would prefer to be spending my money on new technology rather than an old generation. If you was going for a gaming machine for your budget, then clearly Core i7 is not an option and should not even be considered. Seeing as you just want a desktop performance machine, I truly do recommend you look into Core i7, it will surely last longer than 775 and offer a much better performance in the years to come.

    Get rid of the extra cooler as well.
    The newer Intel CPUs don't exactly run hot, the stock cooler is more than adequate.
    If you want to improve it buy some decent thermal paste (like Arctic Silver 5) and make sure its seated properly.

    Also do you really need such a pricey mobo?

    What exactly do you want to be doing with it, what apps etc and maybe an optimal system can be specced for you

    Original Poster

    Cheers, i didn't understand what 'latched' Sata cable was, doh!

    Samsung drives got reliability issues? I haven't used them before

    Original Poster

    PhearFactor;5317666

    Although it might be slightly more expensive, Core i7 might be the way to … Although it might be slightly more expensive, Core i7 might be the way to go for a non-gaming machine.



    Yeah i did um and are it for a while but it's like £100 more. I agree more future proofing... hmmm?

    scottyb;5318572

    Samsung drives got reliability issues? I haven't used them before



    No more than any other drives, I just don't personally like the way Samsung does things.

    scottyb;5318682

    Yeah i did um and are it for a while but it's like £100 more. I agree … Yeah i did um and are it for a while but it's like £100 more. I agree more future proofing... hmmm?



    I don't think we've had a future proof motherboard in the five years, if ever. Even if the socket remains the same the quickpath interconnect is likely to get faster. If the Core i7 is 20% or close to 20% faster then it may be worth spending the extra 20% on it.

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    Jetpac;5317739

    If you want to improve it buy some decent thermal paste (like Arctic … If you want to improve it buy some decent thermal paste (like Arctic Silver 5) and make sure its seated properly.



    Am I right in thinking CPU or CPU fans come with heatsink compound? they used to when I last build a PC (4+ years ago)
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