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    Government responds to Anti Trump Petition, and flat out rejects it!

    Our Government responded to the anti-Trump petition, confirming state visit.

    HM Government believes the President of the United States should be extended the full courtesy of a State Visit. We look forward to welcoming President Trump once dates and arrangements are finalised.

    HM Government recognises the strong views expressed by the many signatories of this petition, but does not support this petition.

    During her visit to the United States on 27 January 2017, the Prime Minister, on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen, invited President Trump for a State Visit to the UK later this year. The invitation was accepted. This invitation reflects the importance of the relationship between the United States of America and the United Kingdom. At this stage, final dates have not yet been agreed for the State Visit.
    - Foreign and Commonwealth Office

    To mark the visit, campaigners are planning the biggest protest in British history!

    https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/mg_trump_uk_idiot_comp.png

    Is it time to bring out the water canons? With that many protesers, I worry things could turn pretty ugly in the capital!.

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    good these online petitions are nonsense!

    What did people expect? oO

    The fact you care in the first place is sad.

    zzzz

    Shame they didn't respond with what they were actually thinking.

    "stop crying ya big babies"

    I doubt anyone thought it would stop him coming, but it was about objecting to him as will the presence.

    And no you don't need water cannons. X)

    Original Poster

    adamsxi

    good these online petitions are nonsense!


    Yeah I think they are just placebo, to decieve us all into believing we have some sort of say and freedoms, but we really don't it would take a lot more signatures than this and social unrest for them or who ever the true puppet masters are (the royal family?) to take true notice of us little worker ants, and ever reconsider doing anything differently than 'THEY' want!!

    To mark the visit, Police are planning the biggest kettling operation in British history! X)
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    Good news at last!

    Predikuesi

    Good news at last!



    Mike Flynn going was good news too, right? Right? X)

    Freedom of speech and general liberty in China prompts massive protests in the 10's!

    However the anti Trump sheep are ready to launch protests of 10,000's!

    Oh dear, they really cannot understand why everyone else isn't panicking like they are.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/blob/2205772/1445341686000/china-britain-xi-2-data.jpg

    davewave

    Freedom of speech and general liberty in China prompts massive protests … Freedom of speech and general liberty in China prompts massive protests in the 10's!However the anti Trump sheep are ready to launch protests of 10,000's!Oh dear, they really cannot understand why everyone else isn't panicking like they are.



    We have closer ties with America, culturally, politically and historically.

    It's sad that things like this need explaining but evidently they do.

    HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

    We have closer ties with America, culturally, politically and … We have closer ties with America, culturally, politically and historically.It's sad that things like this need explaining but evidently they do.



    And do people think that Theresa May is going to
    1. Become sexist?
    2. Build a wall between N. Ireland and Republic of Ireland or Scotland and England?
    3. Ban people from mainly Muslim countries?

    I think too much emphasis is put on Trump which allows Russia/Iran/China/Syria to murder 1000s

    The commission’s work recently culminated in a four-hundred-page legal brief that links the systematic torture and murder of tens of thousands of Syrians to a written policy approved by President Bashar al-Assad, coördinated among his security-intelligence agencies, and implemented by regime operatives, who reported the successes of their campaign to their superiors in Damascus. The brief narrates daily events in Syria through the eyes of Assad and his associates and their victims, and offers a record of state-sponsored torture that is almost unimaginable in its scope and its cruelty. Such acts had been reported by survivors in Syria before, but they had never been traced back to signed orders.

    HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

    And no you don't need water cannons. X)



    A water cannon might be more enjoyable than a truncheon up the bum

    I remember a member mentioned that the petition will shut pro Trump supporters on here up.

    But that said member has since disappeared

    davewave

    And do people think that Theresa May is going to 1. Become sexist? 2. … And do people think that Theresa May is going to 1. Become sexist? 2. Build a wall between N. Ireland and Republic of Ireland or Scotland and England?3. Ban people from mainly Muslim countries?



    No, they fear that she will legitimise a leader like Trump. A leader who seeks to delegitimise the media and the judiciary, whilst weakening the west's stance against Russia. There's also the objection to Trump's form of politics.

    That you go on to express dismay about us ignoring Russia is laughable.

    I personally can't stand the man but there was no way that the petition was going to be upheld.

    DIdnt bother as this petition is useless...Didnt work the first time they wanted to ban him, u think it was to work again?

    Banned

    Déjà vu

    Moonwolf1976

    Is it time to bring out the water canons?

    Yes, but only if they mix wallpaper paste in with the water first.

    Glad you got you thread back Moony.

    HotEnglishAndWelshDeals

    No, they fear that she will legitimise a leader like Trump. A leader who … No, they fear that she will legitimise a leader like Trump. A leader who seeks to delegitimise the media and the judiciary, whilst weakening the west's stance against Russia. There's also the objection to Trump's form of politics.That you go on to express dismay about us ignoring Russia is laughable.



    I'm glad you are here. One of the only people that talks any sense and understands basic concepts of humanity.

    No way Trump should get a state visit.

    Even ignoring his views - no other president has been afforded a state visit this quick.

    I have no issue with him coming to the UK. He is a legimate democratic world leader.

    This doesn't mean he should get a full state visit and the government should have revoked the May own goal of offering him one, I'm not even convinced she knew what a state visit was.

    davewave

    Freedom of speech and general liberty in China prompts massive protests … Freedom of speech and general liberty in China prompts massive protests in the 10's!However the anti Trump sheep are ready to launch protests of 10,000's!Oh dear, they really cannot understand why everyone else isn't panicking like they are.


    May I draw everyone here in MISC to pass along this more useful marche for our own good?
    Saturday 4 March 2017 NHS

    airfix

    A water cannon might be more enjoyable than a truncheon up the bum


    The voice of experience?

    Original Poster

    joanddan7

    No way Trump should get a state visit. Even ignoring his views - no other … No way Trump should get a state visit. Even ignoring his views - no other president has been afforded a state visit this quick.


    Its probably to make up for some of the derogatory remarks she made about him, thinking he would never make it, and now he has, shes regretting it, so is now having to kiss his presidential ass big time!

    Edited by: "Moonwolf1976" 15th Feb

    For all those SJW's, millennials and the like who are against Trump because of his immigration policies

    A must see video youtube.com/wat…Sb0

    Enjoy

    oh and I know you won't watch it because you are afraid of the truth and facts and it doesn't meet with the sheepeople you associate with.

    philphil61

    For all those SJW's, millennials and the like who are against Trump … For all those SJW's, millennials and the like who are against Trump because of his immigration policiesA must see video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-w2LnSQSb0Enjoyoh and I know you won't watch it because you are afraid of the truth and facts and it doesn't meet with the sheepeople you associate with.


    Do you not follow the news, phil? (By news I mean proper news, not the Fox version) Trump's immigration policies are in tatters. That stuff is far right opinion and more or less completely devoid of truth and facts. But, if it makes you feel better, go on believing it. Just don't expect anyone with any critical faculties to be so easily fooled.

    RonChew

    Do you not follow the news, phil? (By news I mean proper news, not the … Do you not follow the news, phil? (By news I mean proper news, not the Fox version) Trump's immigration policies are in tatters. That stuff is far right opinion and more or less completely devoid of truth and facts. But, if it makes you feel better, go on believing it. Just don't expect anyone with any critical faculties to be so easily fooled.



    So what is it you're saying here Ronald? That is wasn't Obama and Clinton in their own words espousing virtually identical immigration policy to Trump. CGI?

    Fred.Smith

    So what is it you're saying here Ronald? That is wasn't Obama and Clinton … So what is it you're saying here Ronald? That is wasn't Obama and Clinton in their own words espousing virtually identical immigration policy to Trump. CGI?


    Short pieces of speeches made by Obama and Clinton taken out of context mean nothing. It's the sort of thing you're quite good at doing, freddie.
    Edited by: "RonChew" 15th Feb

    Fred.Smith

    So what is it you're saying here Ronald? That is wasn't Obama and Clinton … So what is it you're saying here Ronald? That is wasn't Obama and Clinton in their own words espousing virtually identical immigration policy to Trump. CGI?


    He's attempting to state that the factual evidence can be questioned - which is what you'd expect
    And he's attempting to state that it's because it was on Fox News that it cannot be true

    Now I know Fox News is pro Trump - anyone that doesn't know that shouldn't be commenting
    That said both Obama and Clinton if he dares to dig up the archives actually spoke those words

    What RonChew cannot accept is that it's because Donald Trump said it - and only when Donald Trump says it it's immoral/unacceptable.

    Now neither Clinton or Obama acted on their immigration "manifestos" whereas Donald Trump has and yet RonChew still cannot accept it

    Tis why I CBA to reply
    Edited by: "philphil61" 15th Feb

    RonChew

    Short pieces of speeches made by Obama and Clinton taken out of context … Short pieces of speeches made by Obama and Clinton taken out of context mean nothing. It's the sort of thing you're quite good at doing, freddie.



    The longer bits of Obamas speech don't sound too good either...

    "The American people are a welcoming and generous people. But those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws.
    The bill the Judiciary Committee has passed would clearly strengthen enforcement. I will repeat that, because those arguing against the Judiciary Committee bill contrast that bill with a strong enforcement bill. The bill the Judiciary Committee passed clearly strengthens enforcement.
    To begin with, the agencies charged with border security would receive new technology, new facilities, and more people to stop, process, and deport illegal immigrants.

    ...in the future, we must also replace the flow of undocumented immigrants coming to work here with a new flow of guestworkers. Illegal immigration is bad for illegal immigrants and bad for the workers against whom they compete.
    Replacing the flood of illegals with a regulated stream of legal immigrants who enter the United States after background checks and who are provided labor rights would enhance our security, raise wages, and improve working conditions for all Americans.
    But I fully appreciate that we cannot create a new guestworker program without making it as close to impossible as we can for illegal workers to find employment. We do not need new guestworkers plus future undocumented immigrants. We need guestworkers instead of undocumented immigrants...

    And before any guestworker is hired, the job must be made available to Americans at a decent wage with benefits. Employers then need to show that there are no Americans to take these jobs. I am not willing to take it on faith that there are jobs that Americans will not take. There has to be a showing. If this guestworker program is to succeed, it must be properly calibrated to make certain that these are jobs that cannot be filled by Americans, or that the guestworkers provide particular skills we can't find in this country."

    philphil61

    He's attempting to state that the factual evidence can be questioned - … He's attempting to state that the factual evidence can be questioned - which is what you'd expect And he's attempting to state that it's because it was on Fox News that it cannot be trueNow I know Fox News is pro Trump - anyone that doesn't know that shouldn't be commentingThat said both Obama and Clinton if he dares to dig up the archives actually spoke those wordsWhat RonChew cannot accept is that it's because Donald Trump said it - and only when Donald Trump says it it's immoral/unacceptable.Now neither Clinton or Obama acted on their immigration "manifestos" whereas Donald Trump has and yet RonChew still cannot accept itTis why I CBA to reply



    Some members are on here just for arguments. Even if it goes against what they actually really believe in, they'll pretend to be be so against something that they really aren't just for that highlight of the day, because driving to the petrol station to get their tyres pumped up as a time pass was so 2012.

    Hopefully we get a prime minister just like Trump in the future. We need a leader with a backbone, that goes through with what he/she says, that detects problems and actually takes action as a preventative measure as well. Someone that will get the job done in the name of protecting their citizens and our children.

    Watched that youtube video...and unfortunately it makes you sound like an idiot for your comment. Obama and Clinton were talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who had made it into the country by one way or the other (ILLEGALLY). Totally different to Trump's BAN EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE strategy of preventing people being able to enter legally. If you're unaware, for an immigrant/refugee to be given residential status in the USA they are already checked by EVERY SINGLE SECURITY AGENCY... it's one of the hardest countries to be granted asylum and it takes ages. Don't believe all the nonsense you hear about immigrants just turning up and causing mischief. Also, if you want any credibility never use Fox as a source, it's worse than the bloody Daily Mail.

    **** petitions don't work, they only will pass ones that they see won't lose them any money or Very little.

    RonChew

    The voice of experience?


    If I'd asked you that I would be accused of homophobia. (_;)

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    MR1123

    **** petitions don't work, they only will pass ones that they see won't … **** petitions don't work, they only will pass ones that they see won't lose them any money or Very little.



    petitions only work when it falls in line with government policy at which point the government will say look, democracy in action, the people have spoken. when its a petition against the stance of the government its a case of, its a petition and government have to do diddly squat.

    Arkade

    Watched that youtube video...and unfortunately it makes you sound like an … Watched that youtube video...and unfortunately it makes you sound like an idiot for your comment. Obama and Clinton were talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who had made it into the country by one way or the other (ILLEGALLY). Totally different to Trump's BAN EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE strategy of preventing people being able to enter legally. If you're unaware, for an immigrant/refugee to be given residential status in the USA they are already checked by EVERY SINGLE SECURITY AGENCY... it's one of the hardest countries to be granted asylum and it takes ages. Don't believe all the nonsense you hear about immigrants just turning up and causing mischief. Also, if you want any credibility never use Fox as a source, it's worse than the bloody Daily Mail.



    The news source is irrelevant when there's video evidence from the horses mouth.

    Also...Obama banned Iraqi's for 6 whole months. That should of caused a mass protest, surely?. Nobody said a single thing though. Odd?

    SIXTEEN countries have banned Israeli citizens from traveling in, including non Israeli citizens that have had their passport stamped with an Israeli stamp. And this is not a temp ban, its a indefinite ban!. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Algeria
    Bangladesh
    Brunei
    Iran
    Iraq
    Kuwait
    Lebanon
    Libya
    Malaysia
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Saudi Arabia
    Sudan
    Syria
    United Arab Emirates
    Yemen

    Again, no mass protests and you don't hear a single peep from anyone.

    Explain why Trump's TEMP BAN from countries drafted up by the Obama administration as being high risk is so much more interesting to peoples lives than the previous 2 points i made above?.

    Edited by: "J4GG4" 16th Feb
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