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    Graphics Card Needed - PCI EXPRESS - Up to the £60 mark

    Hi all,

    Anyone know of a decent graphics card for upto £60 new or used.

    I've checked on ebay but the prices dont seem much different than from online shops!

    Anyone had any experience of the ATI 3870?

    Thanks

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    yes, they can be quite pricey on ebay

    i'd recommend the ATI HD 4670, great performance and doesn't need a power connector

    from £54.27 delivered free from scan (if you have AVForums/Hexus free delivery)
    from £56.29 delivered free within 5 days from ebuyer.com

    tomshardware.com/rev…tml

    Original Poster

    Thanks for your advice mate,

    What IS this extra power connector? Are all motherboards capable of supporting such a card? And do these cards come with the power cable....?

    What do they look like? I'm asking to make sure my motherboard could support one.... then again my power supply is 350W which I have read may not be able to support, say, a 4830 .

    Extra power connectors are from the power supply, not the motherboard. They're needed because the PCI-Express slot can only deliver a certain amount of power. They're rectangular, often black and have six or eight pins in two rows. You can get molex adapters though.

    How much power does your PSU provide on the +12V lines, that's going to determine whether it can support a new card. The information should be on a sticker on the side of it.

    Original Poster

    ah right thanks for that info. I'm in the trafford centre at the mo, dragged out by the missus but i'll check when i get home. What would be a good rating for this 12v supply? I've not noticed any extra connections on the actual power supply box itself but again will check later. cheers mate

    Well Guru3d recommends ]26A for a 4770 which would be a good rating.

    Original Poster

    EndlessWaves;5426694

    Well Guru3d recommends ]26A for a 4770 which would be a good rating.



    WOW! Mine only says 14A !! Does that mean its got no chance??!!

    I've previously had an ATI X800 GTO and Geforce 8600GT with no problems.....

    Hmmm I really dont want to change my power supply as was thinking of getting a new motherboard and processor so might as well get an entire new system!!

    Any more advice would be appreciated!

    Original Poster

    AugQX;5424442

    yes, they can be quite pricey on ebayi'd recommend the ATI HD 4670, great … yes, they can be quite pricey on ebayi'd recommend the ATI HD 4670, great performance and doesn't need a power connectorfrom £54.27 delivered free from scan (if you have AVForums/Hexus free delivery)from £56.29 delivered free within 5 days from ebuyer.comhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2296-2.html



    Hyia mate,

    You said it doesnt need a power connector but looking at the link above it says it does.....

    I cant see any power connectors on my power supply at all........ are they really obvious to see?

    brez;5428163

    Hyia mate,You said it doesnt need a power connector but looking at the … Hyia mate,You said it doesnt need a power connector but looking at the link above it says it does.....I cant see any power connectors on my power supply at all........ are they really obvious to see?



    the HD 4670 doesnt need a power connector which is good as you just plug into the slot and play

    won't power connectors be connected to your current graphics card? there are various types. PCI-E ones i believe are different to the older ones

    the HD 4770 is the newer card and has very respectable performance for its price bracket, it requires one 6-pin connector, but it will set you back about £80

    Original Poster

    AugQX;5429125

    the HD 4670 doesnt need a power connector which is good as you just plug … the HD 4670 doesnt need a power connector which is good as you just plug into the slot and playwon't power connectors be connected to your current graphics card? there are various types. PCI-E ones i believe are different to the older onesthe HD 4770 is the newer card and has very respectable performance for its price bracket, it requires one 6-pin connector, but it will set you back about £80



    no mate there is no connector to my geforce 8600gt

    there is a power connector from the power supply to the motherboard

    but i might buy i new power supply and motherboard anyway to be honest.

    cheers

    brez;5428138

    WOW! Mine only says 14A !! Does that mean its got no chance??!!I've … WOW! Mine only says 14A !! Does that mean its got no chance??!!I've previously had an ATI X800 GTO and Geforce 8600GT with no problems.....Hmmm I really dont want to change my power supply as was thinking of getting a new motherboard and processor so might as well get an entire new system!!Any more advice would be appreciated!



    The 4670 consumes 15-20W more than the 8600GT. And back in the X800 days graphics cards were a lot less power hungry.

    If you don't have several 12V lines (+12V1,+12V2) then it sounds like your power supply is pretty old if it only provides [email protected] (newer PCs use the +12V line a lot more).

    You've already got a decent low-end graphics card in the 8600GT (it currently sells for £40 in the guise of the 9500GT) so combined with your presumably fairly old CPU and your power supply of uncertain capabilities I'd say it's probably not worth upgrading your graphics card alone.

    brez;5428163

    I cant see any power connectors on my power supply at all........ are … I cant see any power connectors on my power supply at all........ are they really obvious to see?



    There should be wires coming out of your power supply going to the motherboard, hard disk, dvd drive etc. If you have one then the graphics card additional power connector will be one of those (not plugged into anything currently, but coming out of the same place).

    just been messing with a m8s 3870 only a tad faster on our games than the 8600gt not worth the extra money involved and as stated double check your psu doesn't have 2 12 lines the stick on side of psu will say 12v1 and 12v2

    Original Poster

    right! Gone for this one from ebuyer for £60........

    PowerColor HD 4670 PCS Edition 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card

    I went for it cos no need to get a new power supply....

    Honest opinions, let us knnow what you think.....

    PowerColor HD 4670 PCS Edition 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Car

    ebuyer.com/pro…861

    Thanks everyone for your advice on this.....
    :thumbsup:

    maddogb;5429927

    just been messing with a m8s 3870 only a tad faster on our games than the … just been messing with a m8s 3870 only a tad faster on our games than the 8600gt not worth the extra money involved and as stated double check your psu doesn't have 2 12 lines the stick on side of psu will say 12v1 and 12v2



    There was something wrong with your 3870 or setup then, it should have twice as fast as the 8600GT and slightly faster than the 4670 (if paired with a fast CPU).

    brez;5429983

    right! Gone for this one from ebuyer for £60........Honest opinions, let … right! Gone for this one from ebuyer for £60........Honest opinions, let us knnow what you think.....



    You've had my opinion, which CPU do you have?

    EndlessWaves;5430227

    There was something wrong with your 3870 or setup then, it should have … There was something wrong with your 3870 or setup then, it should have twice as fast as the 8600GT and slightly faster than the 4670 (if paired with a fast CPU).You've had my opinion, which CPU do you have?



    lol yeah there was, it was a 9600 not 8600,
    was still disappointed with the 3870. it was only a gddr3 model from gigabyte but it got so wasted by the £50 8800gts from play and it was only a tad quicker in dx9 fps games than my 1900xt

    Original Poster

    EndlessWaves;5430227

    There was something wrong with your 3870 or setup then, it should have … There was something wrong with your 3870 or setup then, it should have twice as fast as the 8600GT and slightly faster than the 4670 (if paired with a fast CPU).You've had my opinion, which CPU do you have?



    Hi

    Sorry I actually missed your earlier post. I have an old Athlon 3000 and your probably right, upgrading my graphics card was a little pointless.

    However, I had to buy a new card as I sold my 8600GT on ebay last week - I got £34 for it so not too bad.

    I have 3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives and a floppy so to save on power would it be worth it to unplug the floppy, a dvd and also 1 of the hard drives to save power?

    Will I see much of a performance increase over my old 8600GT with my new card, given I have only a 3000 athlon?

    brez;5433634

    I have 3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives and a floppy so to save on power … I have 3 hard drives and 2 DVD drives and a floppy so to save on power would it be worth it to unplug the floppy, a dvd and also 1 of the hard drives to save power?Will I see much of a performance increase over my old 8600GT with my new card, given I have only a 3000 athlon?



    1. should be fine, running my hp pc on a similar setup with an average 400W PSU, no problems

    2. In games, you will see that the HD 4670 eats the 8600GT, the cpu should be fine, that is involved more with video encoding and playback, so won't be working as hard in games, having said that check box specs as most games recommend around a 2.4GHz+ processor these days

    Original Poster

    AugQX;5439190

    1. should be fine, running my hp pc on a similar setup with an average … 1. should be fine, running my hp pc on a similar setup with an average 400W PSU, no problems2. In games, you will see that the HD 4670 eats the 8600GT, the cpu should be fine, that is involved more with video encoding and playback, so won't be working as hard in games, having said that check box specs as most games recommend around a 2.4GHz+ processor these days



    Yes mate your right, I think the Athlon 3000 is only clocked at 1.8ghz or something.....i'll have to invest in a new motherboard, and processor soon...but then that will mean new memory and power supply too!!

    Might just be worth ditching my current one and getting a package as I only have the 4:3 19" monitor and fancy a widescreen!
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