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    Hi guys

    Right noticed a grinding noise when i was driving yesterday when turning right.

    Thought what was this?
    Had a look myself, seemed brake pads were low.

    Went to see my mate at the garage and he said you need new brake pads, and discs wouldnt go a miss either, but not essential

    My car has just done 30K, 54 plate.

    Are new discs really needed? obviously I do not want to do it in half measures.

    £40 for the pads fitted, and £70 for discs and pads?


    Looking around price seems good, but just gathering whether I truly need the discs, Not very good with car technical side lol.

    Regards

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    What sort of car is it?

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    what car
    £70 for discs and pads fitted doesnt sound bad at all

    Seems quite reasonable to me and at 30k they will probably be due depending how its been driven. If it is on its first set of discs and pads its done pretty good really.

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    do you get a grinding sound when braking

    garage did my brakes and still had grinding noise turned out to be a ruddy bearing

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    kyalion;6574965

    What sort of car is it?



    MG ZR

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    linw;6574991

    garage did my brakes and still had grinding noise turned out to be a … garage did my brakes and still had grinding noise turned out to be a ruddy bearing



    change garages

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    herewego1234;6574976

    what car £70 for discs and pads fitted doesnt sound bad at all



    MG ZR

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    herewego1234;6574987

    do you get a grinding sound when braking



    Not always no, more noticeable at lower speeds.

    Depends how you drive the car.

    For £70, I wouldn't complain.

    30K is low for discs to require changing (depending on how it's been driven).

    Only way is to measure them but I'm guessing you wouldn't have the ability to do that.

    The grinding noise shouldn't only occur when truning if it is your discs pads, maybe wheel bearing going.

    If you noticed a grinding noise when turning right that sounds more like a CV joint to me.

    greg_68;6575020

    30K is low for discs to require changing (depending on how it's been … 30K is low for discs to require changing (depending on how it's been driven).Only way is to measure them but I'm guessing you wouldn't have the ability to do that.The grinding noise shouldn't only occur when truning if it is your discs pads, maybe whell bearing going.



    It's not low for an mg rover though. I had a 75 and they lasted 11k due to them using cheaper discs in the later days before threr demise!

    adaviyya;6575021

    If you noticed a grinding noise when turning right that sounds more like … If you noticed a grinding noise when turning right that sounds more like a CV joint to me.



    That's a clicking noise.

    waj1234;6575033

    It's not low for an mg rover though. I had a 75 and they lasted 11k due … It's not low for an mg rover though. I had a 75 and they lasted 11k due to them using cheaper discs in the later days before threr demise!



    Agreed. Discs don't have much life expectancy these days. I work at a dealership and we've seen them go in much less miles than that.

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    Looking on the net and such, it seems like brake is an option.
    There was also the possibility on the reluctor rings going, but had a mooch under the car, no visible cracks etc.

    Well my brakes need doing anyway, so i'll need to get them done anyway

    What are your thoughts, get the discs done as well?

    If it only makes the noise when turning right, its not your brake pads or discs. It sounds more like a bearing.

    And brakes can wear out very easily depending on how you drive. I know someone who got less than 20k out of theirs because they're only ever accelerating or braking hard. When driving, the more you punish your car, the more your car punishes your wallet.

    £30 for discs fitted is a steal, just hope they are better quality than the carp on atm.

    Still don't think it's your brakes though. Is the noise when you are breaking?

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    greg_68;6575069

    £30 for discs fitted is a steal, just hope they are better quality than … £30 for discs fitted is a steal, just hope they are better quality than the carp on atm.Still don't think it's your brakes though. Is the noise when you are breaking?



    No not really, even when I was going round a corner say 25-30 it was grinding, could it not be because my pads are that low that it is catching on the disc itself when turning thus creating the grinding noise.

    I know that sounds silly but could it be?

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    These discs are probably the standard ones, ive owned the car since 20k miles, and I had said to myself at 28k service at 30k, and its just gone over so i'm going to spend some money on it.

    Jack your wheel up and see if there is play in the wheel bearing.

    go somewhere else and get them to check your bearing then decide

    Hamm;6575090

    No not really, even when I was going round a corner say 25-30 it was … No not really, even when I was going round a corner say 25-30 it was grinding, could it not be because my pads are that low that it is catching on the disc itself when turning thus creating the grinding noise.I know that sounds silly but could it be?



    Pads should only grind when applying the brakes normally. The fact that it's only when turning and only turning one way is classic wheel bearing failure IMO.

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    okay greg so i should jack the car up then hold top and bottom of tire and there should be no play or griding noises?

    If there isnt, then what next?

    Quote "Went to see my mate at the garage and he said you need new brake pads, and discs wouldnt go a miss either, but not essential"

    Don't you trust your mate?
    Either get him to do the job or get rid of him!
    If you don't trust him, don't call him a mate.

    Rock it from left to right. If its the bearing, you'll feel some play but you won't get a grinding noise as that'll only happen when the wheel is turning.

    Hamm;6575162

    okay greg so i should jack the car up then hold top and bottom of tire … okay greg so i should jack the car up then hold top and bottom of tire and there should be no play or griding noises?If there isnt, then what next?




    And the 9-3 position too, if not then take the pads off and see if there is evidence of steel to steel contact on your pads, how low are they, they need to be pretty none existent to get them to grind.

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    The Fox;6575183

    Quote "Went to see my mate at the garage and he said you need new brake … Quote "Went to see my mate at the garage and he said you need new brake pads, and discs wouldnt go a miss either, but not essential"Don't you trust your mate?Either get him to do the job or get rid of him!If you don't trust him, don't call him a mate.



    Of course i trust him lol.
    Im not doubting his knowledge, I'm asking whether discs are needed, he said they arent essential but you could have them.

    Then people said here kindly it may not be your brakes, so im just exploring any outcome..

    well said hamm always check and do some homework

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    brb will check it now lol.

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    right just jacked it up and tried doing what greg and co said.
    There was no play there.

    Does that possibly rule the bearing out?

    I'm going to have the brakes done anyway, as the pads themselves are very low, and will need doing shortly anyway.

    I'm probably going to do the discs as well, after thinking about it, because i am going to keep the car for a considerable time, years etc, so if its done its done sort of thing.

    Go for it, £70 is a steal if you can't do them yourself (if on a budget they are really easy to do).

    As for the bearing it doesn't rule it out but will be surprised if it is your brakes. Is it deffo a grinding and not rubbing / squealing noise.

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    And just looked on eurocarparts, the discs themselves £20 each, pads £15 each, so im gonna bite the bullet and get them both done!

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    greg_68;6575429

    Go for it, £70 is a steal if you can't do them yourself (if on a budget … Go for it, £70 is a steal if you can't do them yourself (if on a budget they are really easy to do).



    Cheers greg rep added.

    1) I probably could do it myself if i actually put my mind to it.
    2) I can't really be bothered for the sake of that. It takes the onus of me, plus time is a problem.

    Thanks though mate, appreciated.

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    greg_68;6575429

    Go for it, £70 is a steal if you can't do them yourself (if on a budget … Go for it, £70 is a steal if you can't do them yourself (if on a budget they are really easy to do).As for the bearing it doesn't rule it out but will be surprised if it is your brakes. Is it deffo a grinding and not rubbing / squealing noise.



    its griding mate, like the noise a lathe makes when it cuts the metal.

    There was definately no play from any part of the wheel? It really does sound like the bearing to me. Its always worth changing the discs if they look a bit worn. No-one ever complained that they're brakes were new!

    Hamm;6575467

    its griding mate, like the noise a lathe makes when it cuts the metal.



    Probably something trivial then. :w00t:

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    thanks for all the info guys, ill rep everyone.

    Brakes need doing anyway, so will do that first it it doesnt solve it, hell sort me out!
    Cheers

    It does sound like the pads need doing Visually look at the discs. they should be smooth and with no score marks on them. Normally only if the contact surface on the discs is damaged or worn excessively (this can be seen by how deep the ridge around the edge of the disc is, created by the break pads) do the discs need replacing. In normal wear conditions, the discs should last a lot longer than 30K.
    £70 is not bad, I was in Kwikfit the other month and they quoted someone with a saxo about £150 for new pads and discs.......never go to kwikfit for mechanical work!
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