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    had such a bad night last night kicking off etc.

    i am now damn well sick of it my daughter texted me last night mum can you come and get me me and my mate are hiding on the new estate coz this girls going to batter us!! well ffs got in the car came across the girl that was after them and told her if she touched one hair on her head i would have her well the chase was on me trying to get to my daughter before she did such a gobby cow its unbelievable anyway ot another text she was at home then seen the bully stomping down the side of my house and i had a right go at her she wants to be glad she is only 15 threatening to stamp on my daughters head the idiot i wouldnt mind but they had done nothing wrong this girl just likes to go out everynight to see who else she can pick on.

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    Shoulda ran her over.

    Go to the police? Better still, tell your daughter not to go out, it's clearly not safe.

    Its not worth giving her a clump and getting time for it. She needs an ASBO. She's obviously jealous of your daughter.

    you get lot of these idiots nowadays

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    kaits;4743075

    Its not worth giving her a clump and getting time for it. She needs an … Its not worth giving her a clump and getting time for it. She needs an ASBO. She's obviously jealous of your daughter.



    she is lik that with everyone and goes to the same school as her i have had to send her in this morning with her mobile so she can ringme if there is a problem.

    Banned

    i hate people like that... i guess contact the police? cant think of much else to do. i imagine her parents probably dont give a dam. it looks clear she is used to this behaviour and not having any discipline

    Or on the other hand just beat her up. do the time. and move on.

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    tinkerbell28;4743080

    Honestly if I were you after your other post last night, I would not be … Honestly if I were you after your other post last night, I would not be letting them out.



    well this is the problem my daughter has done nothing wrong the other girl that did that with the lad another girl had a go at her and then ths idiot came up i am the big one round here type of thing and thought she would take her pick on which one to have a go at i wouldnt mind but this is my other daughter the 14 year old not the 12 year old its just stupid.

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    DangerGod;4743095

    i hate people like that... i guess contact the police? cant think of much … i hate people like that... i guess contact the police? cant think of much else to do. i imagine her parents probably dont give a dam. it looks clear she is used to this behaviour and not having any disciplineOr on the other hand just beat her up. do the time. and move on.



    that is my problem i really could of thought her a good lesson last night but she is just 15 if she had been over 16 i would of but i have already got GBH on my file.

    My Mum was quite strict with us,we weren't allowed out in the dark!:w00t:

    Sadly, a very difficult situation, hopefully it will resolve itself through time.

    deb8z;4743133

    My Mum was quite strict with us,we weren't allowed out in the dark!:w00t:



    +1

    I also didn't need to, or have the desire to. No need.

    Keep her indoors away from the scum that live near you Or teach her how to fight and give that beach a good slapping.

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    yeah too hope it calms down but i also dont think it would be fair not to let them out why should they miss out just coz of some idiots that think they are 10 men.

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    DragonChris;4743163

    +1I also didn't need to, or have the desire to. No need.Keep her indoors … +1I also didn't need to, or have the desire to. No need.Keep her indoors away from the scum that live near you Or teach her how to fight and give that beach a good slapping.



    thats exactly what the little moo needs.

    learn mma.

    greyparrot;4743086

    she is lik that with everyone and goes to the same school as her i have … she is lik that with everyone and goes to the same school as her i have had to send her in this morning with her mobile so she can ringme if there is a problem.



    yeah she sounds like a bully. It might be worth a call to the school as well so the teachers are aware of this matter. I hope it gets sorted out.

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    kaits;4743193

    yeah she sounds like a bully. It might be worth a call to the school as … yeah she sounds like a bully. It might be worth a call to the school as well so the teachers are aware of this matter. I hope it gets sorted out.



    the teachers are well aware she does it at school too infact she is on her last warning before being suspended.

    greyparrot;4743176

    yeah too hope it calms down but i also dont think it would be fair not to … yeah too hope it calms down but i also dont think it would be fair not to let them out why should they miss out just coz of some idiots that think they are 10 men.



    greyparrot;4743183

    thats exactly what the little moo needs.



    To be honest, she's better off inside, I think you'd prefer her to "miss out" being out and about than ending up with a knife in her or receiving a kicking

    Just my opinion though.

    tinkerbell28;4743214

    Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come … Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come to harm, exposed to underage sexual activity? So they are missing out on what exactly? Sorry I don't understand, I know it's not your kids fault but over my dead body would I let my kids out exposing them to that if I knew it was going on. In the end they themselves if they don't come to harm will pick up on that behaviour to fit in. I would be taking some responsibility and doing things with them as a mum, not just letting them out to get on with it.



    High five s'il vous plait?

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    tinkerbell28;4743214

    Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come … Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come to harm, exposed to underage sexual activity? So they are missing out on what exactly? Sorry I don't understand, I know it's not your kids fault but over my dead body would I let my kids out exposing them to that if I knew it was going on. In the end they themselves if they don't come to harm will pick up on that behaviour to fit in. I would be taking some responsibility and doing things with them as a mum, not just letting them out to get on with it.



    well i am sorry but the last thing my daughters want to do is sit in the house with me all the time they would be missing out on there friends no the odd few idiots out there and come to that the girls at there school so to be responsible what am i to do not let her go to school as well just incase some lad trys it on of a girl threatens her i cannot do that and i doubt my 14 year old would prefer to sit in the house baking no offence to you but what you are saying isnt right.

    tinkerbell28;4743214

    Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come … Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come to harm, exposed to underage sexual activity? So they are missing out on what exactly? Sorry I don't understand, I know it's not your kids fault but over my dead body would I let my kids out exposing them to that if I knew it was going on. In the end they themselves if they don't come to harm will pick up on that behaviour to fit in. I would be taking some responsibility and doing things with them as a mum, not just letting them out to get on with it.


    I agree.

    very well said.

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    muckypup;4743247

    I agree.very well said.



    well if its very well said where does going to school come into this then.

    greyparrot;4743246

    well i am sorry but the last thing my daughters want to do is sit in the … well i am sorry but the last thing my daughters want to do is sit in the house with me all the time they would be missing out on there friends no the odd few idiots out there and come to that the girls at there school so to be responsible what am i to do not let her go to school as well just incase some lad trys it on of a girl threatens her i cannot do that and i doubt my 14 year old would prefer to sit in the house baking no offence to you but what you are saying isnt right.



    I had a feeling you might say that :P

    Why not invite her friends over to mess around at your house? She has to go to school, but the school should make more effort to protect the pupils, which is done by raising awareness (which you have). But I don't see the point in youngsters being out and about when they like, I wasn't and have turned out fine.

    Maybe she could take up some sports etc to fill in the free time, so she doesn't spend as much time roaming the streets?

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    tinkerbell28;4743261

    Yes it is it's about a parent taking some responsibility for the children … Yes it is it's about a parent taking some responsibility for the children they have brought into the world and doing the best to care for them. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, if you daughter won't stay in for her own good because you ask, then that is a parenting issue. Soryy but there is not a lot you can do, if you are not prepared to put your foot down and take some responsibility.



    right first off i did not bring them into the world i am there step mother secondly what i am saying which nobody has answered so what about going to school then?

    My brother used to have serious bother from a boy on our estate! My brother put up with it or got out of the way etc... he never fought back or complained. This other boy even started going to my brothers work - and starting on him there too.

    Then one day the boy started on my brother when he was with his girlfriend walking him home, sufficiently enough for my brother to want to defend himself... One punch later, a broken nose for the boy, and a ABH for my brother, My brother is now seen as the criminal in the eyes of the law.

    Moral of the story is, that my brother should have informed the police when he was being provoked.. they might have looked more favourably on him being victimised!

    Also I am from an estate - And I have to agree, that the only way of protecting your daughter may be to keep her away from the people on the estate. I'm not saying they are all bad - I don't think I turned out that bad, but kids can be easily influenced.

    Like I said before your daughter sounds like a good girl. You seem to have a very good relationship the way she talks to you and lets you know what is going on. She knows she can confide and run to you. it would be a shame if she changed.

    greyparrot;4743257

    well if its very well said where does going to school come into this then.


    At school they are surrounded by responsible adults ie teachers and staff!!:roll:

    I think all people are saying is that if you know there is trouble out there,make sure that your daughter stays away from the trouble.It does not mean that she cannot be with her friends.Especially on a school night,why can your daughter and her friends not socialise with each other at each others houses?

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    DragonChris;4743268

    I had a feeling you might say that :PWhy not invite her friends over to … I had a feeling you might say that :PWhy not invite her friends over to mess around at your house? She has to go to school, but the school should make more effort to protect the pupils, which is done by raising awareness (which you have). But I don't see the point in youngsters being out and about when they like, I wasn't and have turned out fine.Maybe she could take up some sports etc to fill in the free time, so she doesn't spend as much time roaming the streets?Obviously, it's your call as it's your daughter, I'm not telling you how to be a parent at all, just having a discussion



    yeah i know and she does play fooball after school etc what is annoing me here is ok if i do all tinkerbell is saying and keep them in then they are simply going to get there heads kicked in at school so whats the point there school is in hattersley we are not talking sunny by the sea here where all kids are good.

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    tinkerbell28;4743288

    Should that make a difference? whether you are their biological mum or … Should that make a difference? whether you are their biological mum or not? I don't understand as a parent how you are willing to carry on exposing them to this. As for school can you not take them?



    this is not fairy land i could take them if they want the sh*t ripping out of them for it basically i am saying to you they will get leathered at school anyway so now lets have your advise.

    gray i dont envy you at all....basically you have a few choices...do nothing and hope the 'idiot' gets bored an moves on, whilst putting your daughter and friends in the firing line...sort it out yourself, get arrested, mayble locked up then not be able to keep anyone safe (besides yourself, i wouldnt guess you would be the most popular person after slappin a 'kid')......go to the idiots parents on the off chance they are OK people and actually have some control over their kid (which is very unlikely if they are aware the kid is on the final warning from school)...get the police involved, who will obviously give you an almighty 'crime number' and do nothing else about it....try persuade your kids to get involved in something that keeps them off the street and perhaps gives them more confidence?? like Karate etc?....
    pretty lame options but i cant think of any others...cant see any ways of 'winning' so whatever you chose, hope you manage to sort it somehow!

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    muckypup;4743292

    At school they are surrounded by responsible adults ie teachers and … At school they are surrounded by responsible adults ie teachers and staff!!:roll:I think all people are saying is that if you know there is trouble out there,make sure that your daughter stays away from the trouble.It does not mean that she cannot be with her friends.Especially on a school night,why can your daughter and her friends not socialise with each other at each others houses?



    they possibly could as for school with responsible teachers/adults god you all really are blind to it.

    tinkerbell28;4743214

    Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come … Because they have been threatened with violence, could potentially come to harm, exposed to underage sexual activity? So they are missing out on what exactly? Sorry I don't understand, I know it's not your kids fault but over my dead body would I let my kids out exposing them to that if I knew it was going on. In the end they themselves if they don't come to harm will pick up on that behaviour to fit in. I would be taking some responsibility and doing things with them as a mum, not just letting them out to get on with it.



    totally agree, i was never allowed to hang around the streets as a teen and haven't missed out on friends, we used to go and do something proper at weekends. At 14 School nights were for homework etc especially with GCSE's coming up. I was the same with my 3 and they are actually well grounded, with good jobs and know how to have a good time.

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    tinkerbell28;4743346

    Well inform the school or move schools, again it's about being … Well inform the school or move schools, again it's about being pro-active. To be honest if I was that worried about my kids safety I could not care less if they get the mick taken out of them, if necessary I would home school them.



    cant get them home schooling and the school they are in is the best round here.

    Banned

    neither of my kids go out on the streets to play, yes one is only 6 but the other is 15 and no way on earth did i want her being a street kid, the kids that hang the streets are not good friends for her to have, she is welcome to have her friends here and vice versa, if you think it is so important for your children to be hanging the streets then expect this shat

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    tinkerbell28;4743410

    Can you not home school them, it takes some work, but it can be done. I … Can you not home school them, it takes some work, but it can be done. I would also still look into moving schools.



    i cant home school them and move them to what school the others round here are worse than the one they are in is the best school round here.

    sound slike no answer will be the one you are looking for so im not sure what your expecting. if your worried about them being outside then dont let them out. worried about on way to school, take them or in school tell school to be aware of the problem or take them elsewhere. all answers you dont want but not sure what else your after.

    and im appalled that you brought up step mum status, what different does that make they are either your kids or not.

    don't quite know what you wanted to achieve by this thread other than a moan.

    If its as bad as you say it is round your way then I can't get why you'd want your kids to be roaming about at night getting into all sorts of bother.
    Keep them in, bring their friends round, I don't get why thats so hard unless you don't want them in or you can't control them.

    And as for saying that they may as well be out at night as they'll just get a beating at school anyway. I'd rather they got that beating at school than down some alley at 10pm were nobody will be there to help them just because they were missing out.

    I dread the day I have stuff like this to tackle. My daughter is 4 next week and my son only 3 months.
    I don't really know what to say, she sounds like a right bully..... but have you asked your daughter why she is doing this to her? There must be a reason surely? Have then fallen out?

    What about speaking to the girls parents if you are that worried? Maybe ask for a meeting at the school with you and your daughter and the girls parents with a teacher there?

    Im useless with advice.

    Hope you sort it

    jennie-jack;4743529

    sound slike no answer will be the one you are looking for so im not sure … sound slike no answer will be the one you are looking for so im not sure what your expecting. if your worried about them being outside then dont let them out. worried about on way to school, take them or in school tell school to be aware of the problem or take them elsewhere. all answers you dont want but not sure what else your after.and im appalled that you brought up step mum status, what different does that make they are either your kids or not.



    To add Grey - If you don't want to hold your daughter back, why not ask her what she wants? Would she rather stay at home and be safe when not at school, and invite her friends round etc to play there, or would she rather run the risk while out on the streets? If she's willing to run about outside and deems her social life to be more important than her safety, and you don't want to stop her, then I guess she has to find out for herself.

    Come to a decision together, talk more about it and see what you are both happier with as a solution - I.e. Being taken to and from school, spending more time at home. You won't find your answer on this forum as firstly they aren't what you want, and we all have our personal opinions which are leading this quickly to an arguement.

    Take what others have said on board, go to the police, then talk to your girl and decide between you.

    DragonChris;4743590

    To add Grey - If you don't want to hold your daughter back, why not ask … To add Grey - If you don't want to hold your daughter back, why not ask her what she wants? Would she rather stay at home and be safe when not at school, and invite her friends round etc to play there, or would she rather run the risk while out on the streets? If she's willing to run about outside and deems her social life to be more important than her safety, and you don't want to stop her, then I guess she has to find out for herself.Come to a decision together, talk more about it and see what you are both happier with as a solution - I.e. Being taken to and from school, spending more time at home. You won't find your answer on this forum as firstly they aren't what you want, and we all have our personal opinions which are leading this quickly to an arguement.Take what others have said on board, go to the police, then talk to your girl and decide between you.



    Sensible advise! :thumbsup:

    Butterflies;4743685

    Sensible advise! :thumbsup:



    21 years of wisdom :P

    Bullys thrive off a reaction, tell your daughter to bite her tongue and stay away from her. The other girl will soon get bored. Just out of interest do you get the "your not my real mum you can't tell me what to do"? do you think you let the girls have a bit more freedom to keep the peace?....sometimes it's better to be cruel to be kind.

    queenlush;4743709

    Bullys thrive off a reaction, tell your daughter to bite her tongue and … Bullys thrive off a reaction, tell your daughter to bite her tongue and stay away from her. The other girl will soon get bored. Just out of interest do you get the "your not my real mum you can't tell me what to do"? do you think you let the girls have a bit more freedom to keep the peace?....sometimes it's better to be cruel to be kind.


    Absolutely!

    walk away from trouble is the best way,as queenlush says the other girl will get bored soon enough and find someone else.

    My mum was stepmum to my older sisters and brother,what she said went, along with the back up of our dad.A united parental front is a must.
    I would also suggest that a united front between teacher/parent is also worth pursuing.It seems that you do not have much respect for teachers and you will be passing this attitude to your kids.Schools do see a lot of what is going on,try and work with the school not against them.
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