Hands up who got NAS at home

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Found 20th Jan 2008
Well ive got 3 modded xbxes sitting here and i've instlled a 160gb hard drive on one of them and have now discovered its better getting a NAS.
Also got 2 PC'S And a laptop
The laptop i use all the time coz its convenient
one of the pc's ive had for donkey years but i keep upgrading
with extra ram, hdd and graphics and my other computer I bought just for the sake of it new 4 years ago
Well with that computer I'd like to make that A NAS
does anyone here have a NAS setup
ideally it wil be for the xboxes to hold backup dvds movies and music
looking around the net i cant really find anything to set it up or onlne tutuorials
I have read its possible to get one going wit any old computer but nothing says HOW!
Could someone point me in the right direction?
the other comp runs xp proffessional

Many thanks

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You just set it up as a standard network server and chuck some hard drives in it, or plug some USB drives in and share the lot.

Original Poster

Cheers shengis
whats the best thing for sharing
at the moment for internet i have the modem and two wireless routher/bridges
i'd prefer to stay wireless.
whats the best method for getting wireless connectivity? should i buy more routhers now for each exbox? not too sure? or are those ones you plug in the mains any good?
thanks for your help

Well i've got mine wired (it costs pennies for cables these days). InternetSwitch>Xbox.

This is the sort of thing you would need to go wireless : comparestoreprices.co.uk/com…asp
Not exactly cheap or cost effective for an Xbox :lol:

Original Poster

got a chap who comes ointo the pub who supplies me with cat cbles but kinda getting sick of wires
theyre everywhere
hence the 2 router/bridges.
]heres a tutorial for setting up nas i found .
seems pretty easy

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I use a linksys NSU02.

Just plug it into your router and connect the hard drives to the NSU02 via USB in an external hard drive case.

Original Poster

cheers can you post a link please?
cant find it

jasonrat;1480634

cheers can you post a link please?cant find it



ebuyer.com/pro…399

The old PC can be configured to run as a NAS using freenas.org/ its easy to setup and runs on FreeBSD

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Shengis;1480653

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/65399



Or better still ]here.

The device has been hacked to peices - which is a sure sign of its versatility! Mine is still in its virgin state though!

I setup my system using XP Pro and a 750GB hard drive - the machine has the files mounted as shares for the PCs to access, media is shared using Mediaconnect which allows the consoles to connect. For administration the machine has a vnc server set up (free and simple), it also runs a web server to interface with the picture content.

It has all the various media download systems (4OD, Iplayer etc.) which allows the machine to be used to watch that type of content, a BT client allows downloading to be centrally managed and configured.

All this is running off a broken laptop, I'm pleased with the result.

John

Hands up who got NAS at home



Kelis.

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Shengis;1480653

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/65399


isnt that just a server? wouldnt a computer just do the same if i downloaded freenas?
i mean has it got any bytes for storage?
cheers

This is a good guide to setup FreeNAS developer.novell.com/wik…NAS it is not for the latest version but still applies

Original Poster

thankyou very much its very intuitive

where is states the hard drive can tha hard drive also be used for windows?
i mean can i just add the progran to my pc


not too sure if i can just add the program to it

It's not a program it's an entire operating system, it would run in place of Windows.

From what you've said I don't think you need anything fancy, I think Windows shares would do the job and failing that an FTP server would probably work fine for the Xboxes.

John

Once you install FreeNAS it will be the only OS on the PC. Connect it to your network, you should then see it as network drive. You will then be able to create/delete folders and files as you wish.

I currently run FreeNAS on an old Compaq D500 P3 with a 300Gb drive fitted, I use it to stream movies/MP3's to a chipped Xbox.

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jasonrat;1480979

isnt that just a server? wouldnt a computer just do the same if i … isnt that just a server? wouldnt a computer just do the same if i downloaded freenas?i mean has it got any bytes for storage?cheers



A computer would do the same job, yes. But being powered up 24/7, will be far more expensive to run. Another advantage is the fact the drive can just be detached and plugged in any computers USB port. ie it has portability. Its just a device that allows it - and no it doesnt come with storage. It also acts very nicely as an online server that you could run mail or a website from. (ie your own hosting!)

That said, Ive never heard of FreeNas before. Ive got 2 P4 1.7Ghz machines sitting here doing squat. Might get round to powring them and and giving that a whirl!

So once that is configured, would it need to be attached to a monitor or can access be purely done remotely? (ie from its IP from a different device on the network.) I suppose it wouldnt make much difference as I have one spare slot on my KVM - and 3 machines already running 24/7!

God this house is a veritable Geeks pad! Both Kids have decent PCs in their bedroom all hard wire networked. This room has 3 24/7s and 4 decent spec machines doing squat. HTPC 24/7 in the living room, 2 laptops - which one is used by the missus and yet another lappy being delivered tomorrow from the Dell offer I couldnt refuse! I really need to sort something - and probably get out more!!!!:p

Original Poster

decisions decisions
it all sounds very sexy
do i format a quite good pc or look round for scraps
or buy a nas
what would others do

Johnmcl7;1480811

I setup my system using XP Pro and a 750GB hard drive - the machine has … I setup my system using XP Pro and a 750GB hard drive - the machine has the files mounted as shares for the PCs to access, media is shared using Mediaconnect which allows the consoles to connect. For administration the machine has a vnc server set up (free and simple), it also runs a web server to interface with the picture content. It has all the various media download systems (4OD, Iplayer etc.) which allows the machine to be used to watch that type of content, a BT client allows downloading to be centrally managed and configured.



Pretty much like mine but I just use it with SMB for XBMC as I only need it to watch .avi's and dvd iso's. Basically mine is a file/print server, internet gateway and torrent machine. It's never used for anything else so little or no risk of virii etc. Bit of a waste of a Sempron 2800 but there you go :lol:

http://www.shengis.net/eby1/server2.jpg

:whistling:;-)

guv;1481250

So once that is configured, would it need to be attached to a monitor or … So once that is configured, would it need to be attached to a monitor or can access be purely done remotely? (ie from its IP from a different device on the network.) I suppose it wouldnt make much difference as I have one spare slot on my KVM - and 3 machines already running 24/7!



If you use VNC no monitor is needed. Unless you need to do maintainence on it due to network failure etc. All good stuff:thumbsup:

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Shengis;1481317

Pretty much like mine but I just use it with SMB for XBMC as I only need … Pretty much like mine but I just use it with SMB for XBMC as I only need it to watch .avi's and dvd iso's. Basically mine is a file/print server, internet gateway and torrent machine. It's never used for anything else so little or no risk of virii etc. Bit of a waste of a Sempron 2800 but there you go :lol:



wow

looks great
think u need a new hdd running out of space:whistling::p

jasonrat;1481339

think u need a new hdd running out of space:whistling::p


You are indeed correct. That's why I was interested in the Ebuyer 500GB WD that was posted last week on here:lol: What i've got left should last me a month or so though:thinking:;-)

Go for that style of thing mate. Anything around 1ghz processor wise will be perfect for the job if its just used as a NAS machine. Build one out of junk.....

Mine is running on a Latitude C400, an old 12 inch laptop with a Pentium3 processor. It's perfect for this task, the P3 sits clocked down at 600Mhz which means no fan and low power usage. The optical drive is external and only connected when it needs to which drops the power requirements, the screen backlight was gone so I took it off as well. (it's hooked up to an LCD TV instead which is used as the main TV). It's a great setup because it's extremely flexible yet small and power efficient.

I do like the look of AppleTV as it's very similar to the way the C400 is running but as far as I'm aware you can't run Windows XP on it sadly.

John

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Shengis;1481317



Something is wrong! I keep clicking on the drive letters to see what you've got on there, but cant get any access! It must be very secure!!!:p I'd bet J drive has a few binary downloads on it though!!!

I think if I mapped every drive - I'd need a chinese alphabet! Arrrggghhhh!

I think I will have a go with this.....

One of my older Athlon 1.4GHz (which cost me a fortune - but never run right 'cos of overheating) will be ideal here. (its fine at 1GHz - and cant be bothered to reseat the CPU.) Ideal, purely because it has 8 HD bays - and 6 CD bays. Makes me laugh (or cry!) when I think of the 3 x 40GB Hard drives (running Raid 0) I bought for this setup for doing legit video editing. Think the machine cost me about £1400 when new and top spec! Still - at least the 3 500GB drives in the HTPC will mean I wont need any more space! No wait a minute - they are pretty much full and why this all looks tempting!

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Shengis;1481320

If you use VNC no monitor is needed. Unless you need to do maintainence … If you use VNC no monitor is needed. Unless you need to do maintainence on it due to network failure etc. All good stuff:thumbsup:



Cool. Though as mentioned, it wouldnt be a problem - apart from yet more cables stradled the desk!

Just need to power up the athlon, clear the things I want to keep on the HDs in it (From memory - its more than just the 3 x 40GB drives) add a couple of big drives, filll them up and add more! Sorted! :pirate:

guv;1481371

I'd bet J drive has a few binary downloads on it though!!!



It's a bet you would lose. All it has is Doctor Who/Torchwood and Star Trek.

Problem i've got now is putting TW S2 on it with only 1.37GB left....

In actual fact all the drives from J onwards contain exclusively TV material :-D

Original Poster

So what would you do in my position?
is it worth getting a NAS without storage or use my old computer but take out the hard drive( and keep it just in case) and buy a new big hard drive to install on the pc?

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jasonrat;1482120

So what would you do in my position?is it worth getting a NAS without … So what would you do in my position?is it worth getting a NAS without storage or use my old computer but take out the hard drive( and keep it just in case) and buy a new big hard drive to install on the pc?



Unless portability is something you would require, then I'd prbably use an old PC. Obviously I was in this same position, but at the time, did the reverse.

But I'm going to take the plunge with this - mostly because of the expandability.

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guv;1482167

Unless portability is something you would require, then I'd prbably use … Unless portability is something you would require, then I'd prbably use an old PC. Obviously I was in this same position, but at the time, did the reverse.But I'm going to take the plunge with this - mostly because of the expandability.



is it perfectly ok then to keep my hard drive with windows on it and then jut get a new hard drive( if i reverse my desicion then just reinstal my old hard drive

getting pretty excited about this

jasonrat;1482442

is it perfectly ok then to keep my hard drive with windows on it and then … is it perfectly ok then to keep my hard drive with windows on it and then jut get a new hard drive( if i reverse my desicion then just reinstal my old hard drivegetting pretty excited about this



That sounds fine.

jasonrat;1482442

is it perfectly ok then to keep my hard drive with windows on it and then … is it perfectly ok then to keep my hard drive with windows on it and then jut get a new hard drive( if i reverse my desicion then just reinstal my old hard drivegetting pretty excited about this



Yes - this is a better way of doing it, if your Windows hard drive fails it means your data is all still intact on the large, secondary drive.

John

Original Poster

cheers thanks alot
now on thr look out for cheap hdd's
had alook on freecylcle and put some offers in for old pcs too
then find the best way of setting up a network?

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jasonrat;1484592

cheers thanks alotnow on thr look out for cheap hdd'shad alook on … cheers thanks alotnow on thr look out for cheap hdd'shad alook on freecylcle and put some offers in for old pcs toothen find the best way of setting up a network?



What size drives are you looking for? Per gb, 500's seem the best option. A few of them and your laughing!!!!

Ive got a fair bit of clearing up in my comptuter room (and clearing old stuff of the drives) before I get going on mine. Not to mention a "bionicle movie" my littlun is insisting gets started tomorrow night! God damn you "youtube"!

Agree with guv, 500GB drives definitely seem to be the most economical buy - loads of storage there.

John

thesaint;1480889

Kelis.



it's okay, i found it funny!

Would a 333mhz processor with 128MB of ram be enough for the linux NAS option? (streaming to xbmc and copying over data from main PC to store on it, 500GB drive).

Pretty sure it would be fine, used to run a pair of Linux servers - one was a Pentium Pro 200 and the other an AMD K6-200 which between them did file sharing, NAT, Web servers, FTP servers, DHCP, DNS, IRC, mail etc. and there were no performance issues.

John
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