Found 8th Jun 2008
I have just bought a new 500gb hard drive because my old one is almost at a stand still. My hard drive at the moment is 80gb & split in 2, it came like this when i bought it. All my stuff is on C drive whilst the recovery of the operating system (xp) is on D drive. No cds came with the puter.
My question is this:- is there some sort of free software that will allow me to move my operating system & files to my new hard drive without having to buy a new copy of xp or upgrading to vista? I am not bad with computers generally, but this problem is confusing me .any help would be much appreciated.

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can't answer your question but love your avatar ! :whistling:
welcome to HUKD

Sorry about the hard drive, but lift the kilt up, gis a peek!!

Don't you/didn't you have the option to make a bootable CD/DVD from the recovery partion when you got the PC?

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Thanks for the kilt comments.If i get a positive answer i might ditch the kilt lol

Use something like norton ghost or paragon partition manager to clone the drive you have and expand it, this will then replace the 80gb you have now. download.com/Par…934

This is a full 30 day trial so will serve you well

williamwallace;2272614

Thanks for the kilt comments.If i get a positive answer i might ditch the … Thanks for the kilt comments.If i get a positive answer i might ditch the kilt lol


Watch the female population on here mate they are dangerous predators!

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Paddy_o_furniture;2272606

Don't you/didn't you have the option to make a bootable CD/DVD from the … Don't you/didn't you have the option to make a bootable CD/DVD from the recovery partion when you got the PC?



Hi thanks for the reply, i probably did get the option but then again the computer was all set up to go, i did not have to do anything

There may still be the option somewhere within your start menu to do it then.

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harlzter;2272622

Watch the female population on here mate they are dangerous predators!



Just as well i am single lol

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harlzter;2272615

Use something like norton ghost or paragon partition manager to clone the … Use something like norton ghost or paragon partition manager to clone the drive you have and expand it, this will then replace the 80gb you have now. http://www.download.com/Paragon-Partition-Manager/3000-2248_4-10070089.html?tag=lst-1&cdlPid=10802934This is a full 30 day trial so will serve you well



How do i expand it? Does it just clone the whole 80gb from both partitions & then just dump it in my new drive leaving me all the extra space without doing anything else?

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Paddy_o_furniture;2272631

There may still be the option somewhere within your start menu to do it … There may still be the option somewhere within your start menu to do it then.



There is an option on my start menu to create a recovery cd which helps change partitions etc but nothing about my op system

Can't see why a recovery CD option would involve your partions. I may be wrong though

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Paddy_o_furniture;2272724

Can't see why a recovery CD option would involve your partions. I may be … Can't see why a recovery CD option would involve your partions. I may be wrong though



helps reconfigure hard drive partitions & do diagnostics it says.Recovery tools cd its called.Does system diagnostics but no mention of full recovery.Will just do the free one mentioned earlier to clone my drive.thanks for your help

Lulu'sMammy;2272594

Sorry about the hard drive, but lift the kilt up, gis a peek!!



Hang on, aren`t you the one that went whining to the admins and got someone banned for saying ]the same only for baps the other day? Hypocrisy, nice :roll:

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dxx;2272943

Hang on, aren`t you the one that went whining to the admins and got … Hang on, aren`t you the one that went whining to the admins and got someone banned for saying ]the same only for baps the other day? Hypocrisy, nice :roll:


phew thought it was me you were having a pop at lol

dxx;2272943

Hang on, aren`t you the one that went whining to the admins and got … Hang on, aren`t you the one that went whining to the admins and got someone banned for saying ]the same only for baps the other day? Hypocrisy, nice :roll:


LMFAO!! Do you believe santa is real too? Dim wit
And i have NEVER grassed on anybody in my life

Generally, I'd back all my data up, and go with a fresh install of MS-Windows on the new drive. If you want to keep your existing OS - then there's stuff like Ghost, or free software like DAR or even dd if you've got a gnu/Linux boot disc and a bit of time for reading :thumbsup:

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thanks john-boy, but I have no operating system cds so will try paragon partition manager as suggested earlier.Thanks fort your imput though

In the create recovery disk you may have several options one should be to create the recovery cd or dvd, which you should do before attempting to recover or repair your o/s as you only have a one shot chance at creating the recovery disk.

Once you have created a recovery disk and then run it will give you several options, one just to repair windows o/s and the other one is to wipe the hard drive and repartition the hard drive and completely re-install everything.

If you don't mind me asking, how computer knowledgeable are you as there could be another way of transferring the backup files on to the new hard drive, but ideally you would need to make the recovery disk first as you will loose the option to create the disk later.

Also depending on your make of computer the restore file could be in the form of an iso image (which may be a hidden file). If this is the case you could burn this image to cd / dvd to create your recovery disk.

I'd definitely recommend an imaging application as this is exactly what they are for, my personal choice is Acronis which has a fully functional 15 day trial. You can put both hard drives in, boot from the original and then when in Windows use Acronis (or similar) to clone the original drive to the new one and then you should be able to remove the old and use the new one.

John

Lulu'sMammy;2272984

LMFAO!! Do you believe santa is real too? Dim witAnd i have NEVER grassed … LMFAO!! Do you believe santa is real too? Dim witAnd i have NEVER grassed on anybody in my life



Oh, so it was supposed to be a joke, one that people were supposed to laugh at? I see.

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pavc;2273129

In the create recovery disk you may have several options one should be … In the create recovery disk you may have several options one should be to create the recovery cd or dvd, which you should do before attempting to recover or repair your o/s as you only have a one shot chance at creating the recovery disk.Once you have created a recovery disk and then run it will give you several options, one just to repair windows o/s and the other one is to wipe the hard drive and repartition the hard drive and completely re-install everything. If you don't mind me asking, how computer knowledgeable are you as there could be another way of transferring the backup files on to the new hard drive, but ideally you would need to make the recovery disk first as you will loose the option to create the disk later.Also depending on your make of computer the restore file could be in the form of an iso image (which may be a hidden file). If this is the case you could burn this image to cd / dvd to create your recovery disk.




Hi, would you believe i have found 2 dvd's that i must have backed up a couple of years ago.Its a compaq presario computer. Presuming that i have actually found the correct dvd's to back up my operating system onto the new hard drive, is it just a case of transferring my c drive over to the new hard drive or would you suggest i still take a cloning image in any case? Your input is much appreciated, infact everyones is. I can confidently open the puter & swap hard drives, put memory or graphics cards in & have even changed the processor since i backed up, so hopefully that will not affect my backup?

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Johnmcl7;2273199

I'd definitely recommend an imaging application as this is exactly what … I'd definitely recommend an imaging application as this is exactly what they are for, my personal choice is Acronis which has a fully functional 15 day trial. You can put both hard drives in, boot from the original and then when in Windows use Acronis (or similar) to clone the original drive to the new one and then you should be able to remove the old and use the new one.John



I looked at acronis but did not want to pay for something i will probably only use once.Never knew you could just do an image straight from one hard drive to the other though, so thanks for that info.

The way I would do it would be first copy any documents files that you want to keep onto a memory stick or cd. Then remove your old hard drive and fit the new one.

Then run the recovery disks, I am not sure if you have to press F12 on booting the PC to initialise the recovery action (but the last time I looked on the compaq web site it showed clear instructions on how to do a full PC recovery. Be careful when replacing the hard drive though as some times some of the other connections in the PC can be disturbed.

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ok mate will try that tomorrow.Too late for this at this time of night.i have a usb cable & cd that allows me to transfer files from one puter to another so might move my bigger files over with that.i will decide tomorrow what I will try lol. thanks again

williamwallace;2273337

I looked at acronis but did not want to pay for something i will probably … I looked at acronis but did not want to pay for something i will probably only use once.Never knew you could just do an image straight from one hard drive to the other though, so thanks for that info.



As I mentioned, the 15 day trial is fully functional so you can use it once without paying for it.

John

dxx;2273288

Oh, so it was supposed to be a joke, one that people were supposed to … Oh, so it was supposed to be a joke, one that people were supposed to laugh at? I see.


Worked for me...i nearly wet myself!

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Hi guys, thanks for the help thus far. I used acronis to clone my old hard drive over to my new hard drive but when I disconnect my old one & try to boot from the new hard drive (sata) it gets just past the post screen & then blank screen with a flashing hash symbol in the top left corner of the screen.Any ideas?

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maybe I should add, this is my old pata hard drive i am using just now to get connected.
Also maybe should add that when I looked at hardware properties the new hard drive showed up as -location 0 (primary ata channel)
Maybe the acronis did not fully copy my operating system from my old hard drive xp?

pcstats.com/art…e=1

Nice guide there for what you need to do and also recommends some freeware apps that you can use.

Good luck!

From the sound of things your PC is not reconising the sata drive as a bootable disk, or does not reconise that the o/s is installed on the new hard drive.

Your bios might be set up to boot in the following sequence floppy drive, cd/dvd drive then hard drive (ide type). If this is the case you would need to change the bios settings to boot from the sata drive if you have this option.

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pavc;2285139

From the sound of things your PC is not reconising the sata drive as a … From the sound of things your PC is not reconising the sata drive as a bootable disk, or does not reconise that the o/s is installed on the new hard drive. Your bios might be set up to boot in the following sequence floppy drive, cd/dvd drive then hard drive (ide type). If this is the case you would need to change the bios settings to boot from the sata drive if you have this option.



Hi pavc
ur right it was set up to boot like that but I changed it & have checked that files were indeed copied over to the new drive which they were.Mind you i have not checked that the recovery d drive for the os was copied properly but will go look now.When I set up the boot sequence it is not giving me the sata boot up option, just shows the drive as hard disk & samsung so I set it up to that but no joy.Will report back when i check my d drive on old disc

I might be wrong on this but as you have no way to select the sata drive as a boot disk you might not be able to get your PC to boot from the sata drive in the way you have copied the o/s over to it.

I think the first thing you will need to do is run your recovery cd / dvd and when the set up starts to load in preperation to re-installing xp it will show what hard disks are present. If it shows that sata drive you may be able to re-install xp from the recovery disk/s.

From other reports I have seen you may need to create a sata driver disk in order for xp to reconise the drive. There are several topics on the web about creating the driver disks, but the one I looked at said you needed a xp install disk, so it may not work with a recovery disk.

Compaq have a guide on their web site to show you how to re-install the o/s onto a new hard drive, you will need the model number of your PC to find the exact guide for your PC, I have posted a link to a random PC to show what the guide looks like.

Their web site also shows that they can supply replacement recovery disks for some of their PC's depending how old your PC is, I did not see a price for these disks though.

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