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    Have you been scammed by www.clselectronicstore.co.uk?

    If so, or you know somebody who has, please visit kl2.com/cal…rni for details of Mr. Calfarni Simpson and his activities as CLS Electronic Store and Simpson's Entertainment.

    Any further information you can provide and pass on to the Online Fraud email address given on the site will help a great deal. :thumbsup:

    I understand HDUK listed CLS for a while, before removing them as a merchant (because of complaints we assume).

    Warn others, this site is a scammer.

    21 Comments

    Thats why its important to do whois check and see where they are (Like Dino often does when somebody asks if a company is ok.)

    Welcome to HUKD and thanks for the warning. :thumbsup:

    Iom-RF

    Thats why its important to do whois check and see where they are



    I agree :thumbsup:
    I've seen that guy before :?

    wasnt that a canadian company set up in the uk
    someone thought it was an ok company

    why his website is still up and running? :thinking:

    Original Poster

    If you do a WHOIS on the ]clselectronicstore.com domain you get the details below. This points to a Council House in Forest Hill, Lewisham. Not a Canadian Electronics firm. Also the blurb about the Canadian branch says they started in 1998 (When "Kalz" was 14) and the domain was only registered last Feb.

    We've taken offline copies of both sites (in case he attempts to wipe them) and the .com version is a lot smaller. Probably set up to make the whole scam more convincing.

    He's been reported to tucows + cgi_net, it'll only be a matter of time before his sites are taken down.

    and why isnt this store in the engine search

    I can't find anything on Whois.com

    Original Poster

    The .com is by the same guy and only created in Feb 2005 (not founded in 1998 as claimed). Check out the WHOIS link to [url]www.clselectronicstore.com[/url] on kl2.com/cal…rni to see the details.

    Easy-CGI should take his site down, but they've not replied to us yet.

    PayPal has frozen his account and another forum poster said he bought something from the site and HSBC bank returned his money, so they are on to him.

    I'll post more details as they come to me.

    A whois is for .com revealed :

    Domain Name.......... clselectronicstore.comWhois Server Version … Domain Name.......... clselectronicstore.comWhois Server Version 2.0Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registeredwith many different competing registrars. Go to ]http://www.internic.netfor detailed information.Domain Name: CLSELECTRONICSTORE.COMRegistrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDEWhois Server: whois.melbourneit.comReferral URL: ]http://www.melbourneit.comName Server: NS1.EASY-CGI.COMName Server: NS2.EASY-CGI.COMStatus: okUpdated Date: 26-feb-2007Creation Date: 17-feb-2005Expiration Date: 17-feb-2008>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:20:49 UTC

    It's funny how none of these scammers use Whois Guard:-D

    Original Poster

    Further to our recent discussion regarding your complaint about CLS I see … Further to our recent discussion regarding your complaint about CLS I see from the "Fraud Alert" site that you appear to have obtained a refund from Pay Pal, if this is the case my congratulations.We are in the process of investigating the business and the individual behind it, and to this end we may well be looking at taking enforcement action under the Enterprise Act 2002 there is also a possibility of action under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968, The Trade Marks Act or the Fraud Act 2006.To this end I would like to take a statement from you regarding your dealings with the business, and in addition I would like to know whether you are aware of any further complainants who have had dealings with the business.Thanks in advance for your help with this enquiry, I look forward to hearing from you in due course,Yours sincerely,Senior Enforcement OfficerLewisham Trading Standards[EMAIL="[email protected]"][/EMAIL]


    Looks like this scammer's days are numbered....

    Probably best to take the contact details out of the post above...

    Taken out.

    Original Poster

    Greg

    Probably best to take the contact details out of the post above...




    Why remove the contact details?

    Surely people who've been taken, should be able to find out who they can contact?

    Dont't flame me - I'm just asking.

    Why remove the contact details?



    The law man Publishing personal contact details is a big no-no in terms of privacy and data protection. Also, in terms of basic respect for privacy it's not a good idea to have your telephone number, name, etc floating around in Google for anyone to find uncontrolled.

    I have nver heard of WHOIS. What does it stand for and why is it useful.??

    iglimpse

    I have nver heard of WHOIS. What does it stand for and why is it useful.??



    ]who.is - It gives you registration/ownership info for websites and the like. :thumbsup:

    Yep, when you take on a domain you have to register valid details of ownership which is available for anyone to look up. This thread is a particularly good example why it's useful, here we supposedly have a Canadian website started in 1998 but the domain was registered more recently in the UK.

    Quite often computer sites that seem too good to be true can be checked through whois to find they're been setup very recently and in many cases are the details of known scammers.

    The system also allows you to check if different companies which look suspiciously similar are the same as they will often have both sites registered to the same address.

    John

    Excellent resource thanks.
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