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    HD Ready? Or Is It? Help Please! Have I been ripped off!?!?!?!?!?

    Hi all, I bought a 42" Plasma TV from martin dawes aroud a month ago, and decided to do a google search tonight to see what the best resolution is for my xbox360, and found that it says the model I bought (LG 42PC1DV) Isn't infact HD. (although on the paperwork it says 42PC1DVG, it is definatly 42PC1DV as it's on the back of the tv)

    Now when I bought this tv it had a huge price on it saying, 42" Plasma HD Ready TV only £599.99! What I would like to ask the experts is, is this TV HD ready? Or have I been had? If so should I take it back? And would they swap it for an actual HD one if this is the case...

    The TV I bought was also the last one, which they took off the shelf for me, so it came home with the price tag on it, which I found down the side of the settee of all places, lol

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    Any advise would be much appreaciated. I'd really like to know if it is HD Ready, and if i'm worrying about nothing as usual, lol

    Thanks

    TheDoc :thumbsup:

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    The same model at play has a resolution of 852x480 which is not 720p or 1080i therefor not truely HD but they describe it as HD compatable as it has HDMI and it scale down a true HD image to fit the panels resolution. I personaly would disagree that it is HD ready.

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    Original Poster

    barneydog

    The same model at play has a resolution of 852x480 which is not 720p or … The same model at play has a resolution of 852x480 which is not 720p or 1080i therefor not truely HD]http://www.play.com/Product.aspx?r=ELEC&title=3321698&source=9593



    Thanks mate,
    damn, that's not good... :-(

    See the thing is, it does allow 720p and 1080i on my xbox360...

    Are HD and HD Ready the same thing?

    Original Poster

    Hmm, I see what you mean, it takes 720p/1080i but it doesn't display at that resolution. But is it HD Ready? If it isn't they've sold me something and the sign was missleading right?

    You have been had. the 2 tv's are similar to look at. but the 42PC1D is hi-def and the 42PC1DV is std-def. take it back. its not HD ready.

    Also, there is a very common problem of 'red snow' with this tv. it never really affected my LG until recently. If you do get it changed for the right model, be prepared to send it away for repair.

    TheDoc

    Thanks mate, damn, that's not good... :-(See the thing is, it does allow … Thanks mate, damn, that's not good... :-(See the thing is, it does allow 720p and 1080i on my xbox360...Are HD and HD Ready the same thing?



    ]Here

    says you've been had :whistling:

    TheDoc

    Thanks mate, damn, that's not good... :-(See the thing is, it does allow … Thanks mate, damn, that's not good... :-(See the thing is, it does allow 720p and 1080i on my xbox360...Are HD and HD Ready the same thing?



    HD Ready is basically an HDTV that supports HDCP - it can't be badged unless it supports HDCP as far as I'm aware. The other requirement for an HD Ready TV is that it must have a native resolution of at least 720p which is different to being to accept a 720p signal and downsampling it to the current resolution.

    John

    Original Poster

    Damn, why me? lol...

    I really would never have noticed If I wasn't messing around with it and trying to find out the best settings on the internet. I'm quite pi$$ed off now. :x

    Do you think they'll even take it back? As on the receipt it says "42PC1DVG" but the sign stuck to it clearly said HD Ready. Also it was the cheapest 42" in the shop, i've really grown to love my big telly, and this has ruined it. Should I ask for a refund? Or ask that they give me a different HD Ready TV?

    Thanks for the help guys :thumbsup:

    The hd ready lg plasma you should have had in that box is this
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/shanecr/lg.jpg

    It just rescales your xbox360 output to 852 x 480

    Wiki definition of HD ready]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_readyThe main … Wiki definition of HD ready]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_readyThe main bitsIn order to be awarded the label "HD ready" a display device has to cover the following requirements: [LIST=1][*]Display, display engine[LIST][*]The minimum native resolution of the display (e.g. ]LCD, ]PDP) or display engine (e.g. ]DLP) is 720 physical lines in wide aspect ratio.[/LIST] [*]Video Interfaces[LIST][*]The display device accepts HD input via:[LIST][*]Analog ]YPbPr. “HD ready” displays support analog YPbPr as a HD input format to allow full compatibility with today's HD video sources in the market. Support of the YPbPr signal should be through common industry standard connectors directly on the HD ready display or through an adaptor easily accessible to the consumer; and:[*]]DVI or ]HDMI[/LIST] [*]HD capable inputs accept the following HD video formats:[LIST][*]1280x720 @ 50 and 60Hz ]progressive scan (“]720p”), and[*]1920x1080 @ 50 and 60Hz ]interlaced (“]1080i”)[/LIST] [*]The DVI or HDMI input supports copy protection (]HDCP)[/LIST] [/LIST]



    Yours has only 480 lines so is HD compatable just as play describe it

    The term ]HD compatible is also being used in Europe to indicate that a … The term ]HD compatible is also being used in Europe to indicate that a display device has ]HDMI capability but with lower than HD-ready resolution.

    Original Poster

    shanecr

    The hd ready lg plasma you should have had in that box is this


    Yep, mine is definatly 42PC1DV :-(

    Whether you've been ripped off or it's a mistake it's not as described, send it back

    get a refund, and get this if thats your budget ]http//ww…asp

    If your receipt says 42PC1DVG tell them they must give you a42PC1DVG not a 42PC1DV

    no such tv as a 42PC1DVG

    Original Poster

    Thanks guys, looks like I didn't get what I paid for. I'll go in tomorow and see what they say, hopefully they'll change it. If they do decide to change it and they don't have the HD Ready version of this exact TV, can anyone suggest a good replacement? (edit: thanks for the tip shane)

    Thanks again

    TheDoc

    edit: If they won't change it, what should I do guys? Am I just ******ed? lol..

    You will be entitled to a refund as its not as advertised. and dont get the 42PC1D lol as it has the red snow problem on almost all of them.

    shanecr

    no such tv as a 42PC1DVG


    Damn

    If they won't swap then just get your money back

    TheDoc

    edit: If they won't change it, what should I do guys? Am I just ******ed? … edit: If they won't change it, what should I do guys? Am I just ******ed? lol..



    False advertsing, tell them to put it in writing if they wont exchange it for you.

    lol you pay £599 for a 42" plasma u get a £599 42" plasma:giggle:

    Original Poster

    Well, technically, I havn't paid for it even yet, I got the buy now pay 2008 deal, lol...

    Let's just hope martin dawes customer service is as good as their reputation leads me to believe... and they give me a 42" Plasma HD Ready TV for no extra cost, which is what I was sold...

    TheDoc

    Well, technically, I havn't paid for it even yet, I got the buy now pay … Well, technically, I havn't paid for it even yet, I got the buy now pay 2008 deal, lol...Let's just hope martin dawes customer service is as good as their reputation leads me to believe... and they give me a 42" Plasma HD Ready TV for no extra cost, which is what I was sold...



    Doc lets go back in time

    Original Poster

    add-man

    Doc lets go back in time



    hahaha, :-D

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    Johnmcl7

    HD Ready is basically an HDTV that supports HDCP - it can't be badged … HD Ready is basically an HDTV that supports HDCP - it can't be badged unless it supports HDCP as far as I'm aware. The other requirement for an HD Ready TV is that it must have a native resolution of at least 720p which is different to being to accept a 720p signal and downsampling it to the current resolution.



    Agreed. If it doesnt have 720p, it isnt an HDTV. Its a bit like saying a TV without a digital tuner is digital ready because it accepts (via a scart) the ability to display a digital TV signal.

    Original Poster

    Just to let you guy's know, after much faffing about, I finally got the set replaced with a Panasonic TH-42PX70BA?, so far, very happy..

    Just wondering, does anyone know the correct settings for my xbox360 for this set? As at the moment during fast gameplay on NFS Carbon, I get a bit of 'lineage'...

    Thanks

    nice swap, don't know the settings though, sorry!

    lineage???

    Original Poster

    to be exact, the hdmi picture from the 360 is a little bit pixelated compared to the non HD Lg I started out with, and during fast gameplay (the smoke on NFS Carbon for example) I get lines accross it.

    i'm not too sure. your tv, is it 1080i? try changing settings in xbox to 1080i and 720p and check the difference. my ps3 on my LG looks amazing in 1080i but pretty poor on 720p.

    Original Poster

    Yep it's 1080i, I've tried 1080p/i and 720p/i all of them are the same.

    do you have anything else with hdmi you can check on the tv? was it a new tv in the box this time?

    Original Poster

    Yep mate it's brand new, I don't really have anything else with hdmi to check.

    Saying that, before I got this today, they fobbed me off with an old samsung one, before I took that back aswell and got this because of the same problem.

    Surely my old non HD LG can't be better for hdmi than this new Panasonic one?

    i saw your post on AvForums, you should get a better reply there :thumbsup:

    Original Poster

    Hope so mate, thanks :thumbsup:

    I Just hope to God I don't have to take yet another TV back, lol...

    lol, fingers crossed. say....did they charge you extra for the panasonic?

    Original Poster

    yep, charged me an extra £200.

    holycrap. lol. take it back.

    tell them you want this. nice tv. ]http//ww…-GB

    Original Poster

    If I do it'll be the 3rd TV i've taken back, i'm going to try anything I can to sort it first, lol...

    To be honest, the philips is a far better and cheaper set than the panasonic. But it sounds more like a fault with the panel than a settings problem. Is there a menu system where you can adjust how the tv handles hdmi input?

    Original Poster

    Not sure mate, but there is alot of settings, perhaps it's my hdmi cable? I got a 5 Year warrenty with this TV, so i'm going to try everything, and if it's still not right they can come and fookin' pick it up and replace it, i'm getting sick of humping 42" televisions around now, lol.

    it might be your cable. maybe too low a compliant? im checking the manual for your tv now, and section 1-42, it doesnt have the hdmi checked for use for gaming.
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