Help. I've been ripped off

hi,
i bought a mobile phone from a user on hotdeals last week however they have now been banned and i've emailed them 3 times and havn't had a responce. I paid for the phone via Paypal.

hotukdeals.com/ite…454

I must admit i'm guilty of not following/reading the rules.

Any ideas if i can get my money back?

Thanks

18 Comments

start a dispute

Start a dispute with paypal.

I take it you didn't get the persons contact information?

open a paypal dispute from paypal website u are covered up to 500 squid i think

Original Poster

no sorry i didn't. they posted an ebay user name which i suspect might not be them.

cambb;2083076

no sorry i didn't. they posted an ebay user name which i suspect might … no sorry i didn't. they posted an ebay user name which i suspect might not be them.



I'm guessing you're right, but just in case have you tried contacting that eBay ID?

yes_im_trouble;2083073

open a paypal dispute from paypal website u are covered up to 500 squid i … open a paypal dispute from paypal website u are covered up to 500 squid i think



That's only on eBay, and even then, only if the seller qualifies for Paypal Protection.

Yeh thats the problem really unless you check up on people they could give any ebay account
Always ask for the persons address and phone number and just because an item is cheap dont be reckless
Better to lose a sale than all your money

Original Poster

I've tried the ebay account and not recieved a responce. I've opened a Paypal dispute now.

did you use a credit card to put the funds into paypal? If so the fastest method with the highest likelihood of success is to do a chargeback. Having had the opposite happen to me (a fraudulent buyer who did a chargeback claiming he had never received the goods) I know first hand it is difficult for sellers to defend themselves against chargebacks. Paypal lean heavily towards the buyer in this case.

Original Poster

No, It was from current account

sometimes you can still do something similar on a current account, ring up your bank and say you have been the vicitim of fraud, and if they can recover the money (they take it from paypal), then paypal puts the sellers account into arrears and pursues them for the money after.

Not really what you wanna hear but let it be a lesson to you and us all to check a person out before making a deal:thumbsup: Although it must be said there may be a reasonable explanation. Its not an expensive phone like the scammers normally go for:thinking:

Banned

Tough lesson indeed, this should be made a sticky.

Clearly you didn't follow the FS/FT rules and advice, also negotiating the deal via PM.

Bit of a cheek asking for help, but then again that's just my opinion.

cambb;2083411

No, It was from current account



well chances are youve lost your money

LiveWest;2083351

did you use a credit card to put the funds into paypal? If so the fastest … did you use a credit card to put the funds into paypal? If so the fastest method with the highest likelihood of success is to do a chargeback. Having had the opposite happen to me (a fraudulent buyer who did a chargeback claiming he had never received the goods) I know first hand it is difficult for sellers to defend themselves against chargebacks. Paypal lean heavily towards the buyer in this case.



You can start a chargeback if you paid via credit card, but start a dispute anyway you might get lucky, they won't respond and you will probably get your money back.

aScottishBloke;2083632

Tough lesson indeed, this should be made a sticky.Clearly you didn't … Tough lesson indeed, this should be made a sticky.Clearly you didn't follow the FS/FT rules and advice, also negotiating the deal via PM.Bit of a cheek asking for help, but then again that's just my opinion.



all u do is ask moan ffs

Banned

mostwanteddirect;2085528

all u do is ask moan ffs



mostwanteddirect,

Listen, both parties in that trade couldn't be bothered to read the rules. It's an important step to follow in order to reduce these types of events.

You seem to be carrying over something from another thread, but as far as I recall it's mainly the thread abusers who moan. You even had the audacity to complain about a breach and then whoop with delight that you still managed a sale. :w00t:

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