Help! Need some advice re: ebay/paypal/postage.

I've just sold an item on ebay for just under £300. The winning bidder is in italy and had enquired about the cost of international signed for small packets at a cost of about £7 and has around 400 feedback over 4 years for similar items. However, as it has sold for such an amount of money, i want to cover myself re: paypal etc on any comebacks and am thinking of upgrading his postage for free. The equivalent of special delivery to italy (tracked uk and abroad and compension to £500) would cost me just over £50 which seems a bit ridiculous. Any advice what to do?? Cheaper postage but not insured to £500, not tracked. other methods of postage etc?? Want to make sure i don't get any paypal comebacks if the card is fradulent etc. Any help really really appreciated

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What is it that you sold? Size, dimensions & weight would be helpful. Sounds like it has been your lucky day as you didn't expect it to sell for as much. Has the buyer paid by Paypal, is the delivery address verified?

Lots of people don't send to Italy due to the problems with tracking packages.

If the parcel is not too big you can send by International 'signed for' and add 'Airsure' for a further £4. It is then tracked right to the address.

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Bluerinse;3984462

What is it that you sold? Size, dimensions & weight would be helpful. … What is it that you sold? Size, dimensions & weight would be helpful. Sounds like it has been your lucky day as you didn't expect it to sell for as much. Has the buyer paid by Paypal, is the delivery address verified?


A Subbuteo team in a box about 25cm x 10cm x3cm lol It did go for roughly £250 more than i was expecting which is why i want to cover myself :oops: The buyer hasn't paid yet, it did only end about 10 minutes ago, so not worrying just yet. I think most buyers in other countries can't verify or confirm there accounts i think due to paypal itself, so not sure yet :thumbsup:

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rose_cat_jr;3984496

Lots of people don't send to Italy due to the problems with tracking … Lots of people don't send to Italy due to the problems with tracking packages.


:oops:

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avoint;3984524

Try someone like … Try someone like thishttp://www.parcel2go.com/?gclid=CICz48er_ZcCFUKT3wodDGt8ow


I've used couriers before but never for something expensive abroad. Would that be safe re: paypal?

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thesummerof69;3984551

If the parcel is not too big you can send by International 'signed for' … If the parcel is not too big you can send by International 'signed for' and add 'Airsure' for a further £4. It is then tracked right to the address.


International signed for only covers up to £36 compension i think and when i got a price quote online at the royal mail it didn't give me the option of airsure? Yet i have seen that on there before!?

try parceluk.co.uk i have just made a tread on them to see if anyone has used them as they are very competative with there prices

littlesheepy;3984575

I've used couriers before but never for something expensive abroad. Would … I've used couriers before but never for something expensive abroad. Would that be safe re: paypal?



Well if you use a courier and get it signed upon delivery then I am sure that you would be covered. You would need to check what their own unsurance is though.

Seems as if they don't deliver ti Italy using airsure -
Use Airsure® to send your mail quickly and safely to over 30 destinations in the following three geographic postal zones:

Europe: Andorra, Austria, Azores, Balearic Islands, Belgium, Canary Islands, Corsica, Denmark, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Madeira, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.

World Zone one: Brazil, Canada, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and USA.
World Zone two: New Zealand

royalmail.com/por…034

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raykhan;3984678

try parceluk.co.uk i have just made a tread on them to see if anyone has … try parceluk.co.uk i have just made a tread on them to see if anyone has used them as they are very competative with there prices


Thanks. Don't mind using a courier but need to check it would be good enough for paypal :thumbsup:

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macdoona;3985187

Seems as if they don't deliver ti Italy using airsure -Use Airsure® to … Seems as if they don't deliver ti Italy using airsure -Use Airsure® to send your mail quickly and safely to over 30 destinations in the following three geographic postal zones: Europe: Andorra, Austria, Azores, Balearic Islands, Belgium, Canary Islands, Corsica, Denmark, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Madeira, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.World Zone one: Brazil, Canada, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and USA.World Zone two: New Zealandhttp://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/content3?mediaId=22700567&catId=400034


Just spotted that! :thumbsup:

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Just had a reply from the buyer and he seems to think if i send it via international signed for small packets and pay for extra comepnsion up to £500 it would be covered? It is tracked in the UK but they just get a signature for receipt of the item, it's not actually 'tracked' as such in another country and the cost for this would be about £9 instead of the eqivalent via parcelforce costing £51. Anybody know if that would be sufficient for paypal?
BTW. Will leave rep for all the people that have offered helpful advice in the morning. Thank you :thumbsup:

Just seen the item, out of interest from what year approx is that set from?

Used to have 30-40 teams when I was a kid.

Without being cheeky why did it go for so much, other teams seem to go for £20-40

Additional compensation is £2.20 and yes you can do it for Airsure.

Agreed it seems a bit odd, however there were 2 bidders willing to pay that much, and the buyers feedback seems to indicate he deals in Subbuteo stuff.

Odd one this.

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greg_68;3986862

Just seen the item, out of interest from what year approx is that set … Just seen the item, out of interest from what year approx is that set from?Used to have 30-40 teams when I was a kid.Without being cheeky why did it go for so much, other teams seem to go for £20-40


How on earth have you seen the item!?!? lol It's 1970 something or other. I don't really have a clue. Also i have no idea why it went for so much, but the last 3 bids be different people were for £90, then the £200 it went for with 19 watchers. It was obviously quite sought after. I have to say when checking for the set before i listed it, i couldn't find any others that had sold. The buyer does seem genuine. He has 400+ feedback over 4 and a half years for pretty much all the same thing. In fact that last thing he has feedback for is another team that he paid over £300 for!?

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Bluerinse;3987027

Additional compensation is £2.20 and yes you can do it for Airsure.


:thumbsup:

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tinkerbell28;3987137

No it would not be sufficient, the buyer knows this so please read my … No it would not be sufficient, the buyer knows this so please read my previous post and advice, it's a scam stay well clear.


Thanks for the advice. As greg_68 points out, it is strange as it seems that several people were more than willing to pay for it. The guy who won it had emailed me previously to see if i'd sell it privately for £150. To be honest i thought he was having a joke or trying to scam me. Me and a mate had a bet what'd go for. I said £42.05 he said £45.70.. i now owe him a cup of coffee for being marginally nearest lol

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greg_68;3987184

Agreed it seems a bit odd, however there were 2 bidders willing to pay … Agreed it seems a bit odd, however there were 2 bidders willing to pay that much, and the buyers feedback seems to indicate he deals in Subbuteo stuff.Odd one this.


How do you know this stuff? lol Are you the buyer??

littlesheepy;3987218

How do you know this stuff? lol Are you the buyer??



He bought one in November 08 for £310.

If I was you I would contact that seller to see if everything turned out ok.

Have they paid for it?

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greg_68;3987263

He bought one in November 08 for £310.If I was you I would contact that … He bought one in November 08 for £310.If I was you I would contact that seller to see if everything turned out ok.Have they paid for it?


Yeah i saw that, seems to have bought a lot in the past. I am kinda worried but not sure what to do when he seems genuine enough. Have sent him the invoice about 10 mins ago, so not paid yet.
I've even just noticed i'm mention on a subbuteo forum. eek. subbuteoforum.org.uk/for…491

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tinkerbell28;3987286

I am verry savvy with ebay, can someone please tell me his user name by … I am verry savvy with ebay, can someone please tell me his user name by pm.................Thankyou, Pm received..


oh eck, why? Are you sending the mob round to his house?? Please don't upset my buyer if he's genuine :oops:

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tinkerbell28;3987258

Please noooooooooooo, register with ebay forums and tell them this. They … Please noooooooooooo, register with ebay forums and tell them this. They will tell you the same, they have bid way over the odds to guarantee the win. People have got wise that it's easy to claim INR in particular from Italy, it's happening more and more with "good" buyers even on low cost items, because they can due to paypals loop holes. He is even suggesting the unsafest method for you to send it.Come on if he is willing ot pay hunderds over the odds, why scrimp on postage, why won't he pay the £51 parcelfore which will cover you.............Because it's a scam


Can i just ask why the international signed for would not cover it??

littlesheepy;3987386

oh eck, why? Are you sending the mob round to his house?? Please don't … oh eck, why? Are you sending the mob round to his house?? Please don't upset my buyer if he's genuine :oops:



i think they just want to help by looking at their profile.

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greg_68;3987401

i think they just want to help by looking at their profile.


Ah ok :thumbsup:

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tinkerbell28;3987402

Lol, no looking at his bid history compared with fb received that kinda … Lol, no looking at his bid history compared with fb received that kinda thing. Give me 2 mins.


Oh, thank you :thumbsup:

littlesheepy;3987399

Can i just ask why the international signed for would not cover it??



They are not tracked utside of the UK so you do not have proof of delivery which Ebay insist on.

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tinkerbell28;3987412

It's not tracked in once it's left the uk. It's signed for once it … It's not tracked in once it's left the uk. It's signed for once it arrives in the country. For that amount only the customers signature at their home address will do............


Ahh, would a courier like parcel2go etc cover it? Btw, he didn't refuse to pay the £51. I offered to pay the extra to cover myself, was actually going to go for one that cost £30 which was tracked but not compensated but was unsure so asked on here

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greg_68;3987441

They are not tracked utside of the UK so you do not have proof of … They are not tracked utside of the UK so you do not have proof of delivery which Ebay insist on.


Oh, i thought it was just proof of delivery that was needed?

littlesheepy;3987447

Oh, i thought it was just proof of delivery that was needed?



It is, that cover does not give proof of delivery.

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greg_68;3987454

It is, that cover does not give proof of delivery.


Isn't a 'signature at destination' proof of delivery??

Maybe you are lucky to find the buyer from Heaven with more money than sense.

As you are making so much, why not halve the cost of the £51 (if you cannot find it cheaper) with the buyer.

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tinkerbell28;3987469

Right ok, alarm bells would be ringing for me. As you know sellers can no … Right ok, alarm bells would be ringing for me. As you know sellers can no longer leave negative feedback or false positive..........Out of the eight items he has won in the last 3 months, he has only received feedback for 4, this may highlight problems. No feedback tends to be the only way a seller can show problems with a transaction.Secondly, parcel may arrive fine, feedback left, then he has upto 180 DAYS to initiate a cc chargeback stating INR.If he does this paypal will refund, they will have no choice and the time frame on this is 180 DAYSLong after fb has been left and anything can be done. Scammer gets some kit under their belt, gets some good FB a few months down files INR with their cc, who chargeback paypal.He has paid well over the odds, is suggesting a method which would leave you high and dry in the event of a chargeback and is missing fb, would I risk it no. But then it's your choice:)


Would i be covered for paypal IF i paid the £50 odd to post it?? Also, if i asked him and he agreed obviously, is it possible to send bank transfers easily between the uk and Italy. Any idea? Or any other 'safer' methods i could ask him to pay via?

littlesheepy;3987470

Isn't a 'signature at destination' proof of delivery??



sorry yes you are right, it just isn't tracked.

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tinkerbell28;3987485

Nooooooo items over £150 require buyers signature. PP also only accept … Nooooooo items over £150 require buyers signature. PP also only accept proofs of delivery from certain companies............


Man, i hate Ebay lol
I've emailed the last person who left him feedback to see if they'll repond but again, being a recent transactio, they may not be aware of any problems.

This is a real odd one isn't it?

As I said I would contact the £310 seller for their dealings with them.

It seems odd that they would run a scam on a Subbuteo team worth around £30

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tinkerbell28;3987513

Bank transfer is the safest, you don't need anymore details than you … Bank transfer is the safest, you don't need anymore details than you would give out on a cheque no risks. You need to check on the transaction screen which only you can access to see if you will be covered. You have to have a certain type PP account. Then click through to seller protection it will tell you the criteria you need to meet for that sale.


Does bank transfer work the same from UK bank to UK bank and abroad??
Sorry, you've lost me with the 'transaction screen' bit. Is this after he's paid??

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greg_68;3987526

This is a real odd one isn't it?As I said I would contact the £310 seller … This is a real odd one isn't it?As I said I would contact the £310 seller for their dealings with them.


I've emailed them and hoping for a reply.
I do really want to think this guy is genuine considering he's be ebaying for so long with no apparent problems. I'm a complete loss now what to do.
I might add that this transaction is half mine and half a mates (splitting money) so i have to consider more than myself.
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