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    help please choosing me a digital slr camera

    Hi ,

    I am wanting to buy a digital slr camera but have no idea which would be the best one for me.I have never had a slr camera so know nothing about them but i know the pictures are a lot better than compact cameras.I have approx £400 to spend on one.( I am going to America soon will they be cheaper there? i got 1.87 when i got my dollars )
    I would only use this for picture on hols , kids and i when i am better a few landscape shots etc but want a camera that will be ok in a number of years as due to the usage don't think i could convince the misses in a couple of years to upgrade ,due to this not sure if i should get a 10 megapixel plus or not

    any comments / advice would be great

    thanks Mark

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    Original Poster

    would the 6.1 megapixels be enough if i printed out a photo A3 size?

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    Original Poster

    Thanks for your advice while i was looking for reviews found this
    digitalcamera-hq.com/dig…tml

    looks good and has hd only came out july 08 and ranked 1st £217.98 at camera box any thoughs?

    hutchir9;3168458

    would the 6.1 megapixels be enough if i printed out a photo A3 size?



    6.1 mp is more than enough to get a clear photo but for your budget I'd aim for at least 10mp.

    In NYC they have Camera World stores that do great sales and you get lots of extras. I'd wait til you get there especially with the way the market is at the moment.

    i'm looking at the ]Nikon D80 but will wait til I get to the US next Spring as prices are 1/3rd cheaper

    Would you consider second hand? I got a Canon 20d off ebay with the kit lense for £180 last month, it's amazing, but i prefer the 20/30/40/50D range because i have large hands.

    Original Poster

    i would prefer new ,i have just been to jessops and seen the nikon and a cannon 450d both looked nice but don't know if the cannon is worth the extra

    If you want to get the most out of a DSLR you will need some other lenses - kit lenses are great carry around/day-to-day lenses but not as good as aftermarket lenses - some of the camera bodies have a wide range of older lenses that can be bought second-hand (Sony Alphas can take almost any Minolta AF lens for example) where as some brands have a smaller range of lenses available (particularly second hand). Worth doing some research into what lenses cost and what you might want before blowing all your budget... (you might want a cheap telephoto zoom to add to the kit lens for example).

    Buy the 30d from play, hotukdeals.com/ite…al/ , amazing camera at an unbelievable price. Much better than a xxxD

    olympus e-510 twin kit.

    u get 2 lenses as good as canon L glass, and get the whole kit for LESS than the cost of 1 canon L lens.

    no point getting a slr and having a rubbish lens, only oly offer quality lenses as standard, all the others charge loads for them.

    if u dont want to spend 1000s on lenses, get the 510, easily the best slr package under 1,000

    Original Poster

    many thanks to all of you not sure which to go for but will compare all of them before making my decision once again thank you

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    I would look at the sony a200 too

    lol, the guy's probably more confused than ever now!!

    Just remember when you buy one you are buying into a system, i.e if you buy a Sony, then you will have Sonys forever, Sony lenses etc. etc. Same with Canon and Nikon. I'm not saying one is better than the other, before the Canon/Nikon fanboys start, just something to bear in mind.

    Original Poster

    will check out the sony but think the canon 450d is in front at present but yes i am very confused lol
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    Original Poster

    the sony a200 looks cheap is it an older camera ? i am a complete novice so think to start with will use the auto function until i get used to it .I do like sony's other stuff so now not sure may wait till i get to the states and buy the sony now and then have money for more lens's etc

    Original Poster

    now its either cannon 450d ,the sony a350 or nikon d60

    liking the sony reviews says it has the best live autofocus so anyone got the sony a350?

    Not sure if a US warranty would be applicable here (or last as long) which is worth bearing in mind when weighing up potential savings... May be best to buy a body from the UK and maybe shop for lenses and accessories with your dollars?

    PS Shortlist looks good but I'd try and have a play with all your choices as they differ quite a bit in size/feel!

    Original Poster

    thanks i will ,at least now i have a short list so many thanks to you all for helping me loads

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    hutchir9;3180251

    now its either cannon 450d ,the sony a350 or nikon d60 liking the sony … now its either cannon 450d ,the sony a350 or nikon d60 liking the sony reviews says it has the best live autofocus so anyone got the sony a350?



    I've used both the Sony A100 and the Canon 450 and prefer the Sony. The a350 is supposed to be better than then A100, so my choice would be down to the A350 or D60.

    You should go to jessops and have a hold of all three though and see which you like the feel of, there's not much difference between the actual features so make sure you get one you like to hold.

    One thing I didn't like about the canon, it doesn't let you shoot in RAW mode if you are using the preset scene modes (like sports, portrait etc). No doubt people will be along shortly to say it doesn't matter as on a dslr you should be manually setting things up, but if you have never used one before then it will take a while to get used to it.

    Original Poster

    will go to jessops and check them all out,as a complete novice will be using the auto function till i get used to it .I know i shouldn't really but as my first slr not sure how long it will take to get used to it.
    This may sound really dumb but what is the raw format and what do you use this for .

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    hutchir9;3184322

    will go to jessops and check them all out,as a complete novice will be … will go to jessops and check them all out,as a complete novice will be using the auto function till i get used to it .I know i shouldn't really but as my first slr not sure how long it will take to get used to it.This may sound really dumb but what is the raw format and what do you use this for .



    Have a look ]at this and ]this

    You probably won't shoot in RAW to start with but better to have a camera that can so if you want to in future you have the option. For me the main advantage is

    JPEG files reflect a one-time interpretation of your subject based on the … JPEG files reflect a one-time interpretation of your subject based on the settings of your camera (white balance, exposure settings and output resolution, etc.). Altering these settings and re-outputting a new file, as you can with a RAW file, is not possible. What you capture is what you get.

    RAW is a very useful tool if you plan on using PS afterwards. And i will be the first to say you shouldn't be using scene modes anyway :P My advice would be to learn what apperature is and how it effects things, then just use Av mode, i have a Canon, not sure what it's called on other models.

    IMO Live view is a waste of time unless you will have the camera in akward positions and you can't use the viewfinder. Definitely go to Jessops and hold each of the cameras, it has to feel comfortable in your hands, don't be afraid of asking questions, it's their job to answer them!!

    Also it was good advice to buy the body here and lense elsewhere, if you get a good deal on the body it is probably about the same price as the states, but you should get some good lense deals over there.

    Original Poster

    another silly question my father in law i know had an old film type cannon slr camera and has spent loads on different lens's , would these fit the new cannon digital slr cameras .his is around 20yrs old do not know the model
    This could sway me to the canon if i am undecided between the canon and either the nikon or the sony

    i know tamron and sigma do lens's i believe for cannon are these any good or is it best sticking to the canon lens's for those cameras

    hutchir9;3186385

    another silly question my father in law i know had an old film type … another silly question my father in law i know had an old film type cannon slr camera and has spent loads on different lens's , would these fit the new cannon digital slr cameras .his is around 20yrs old do not know the model This could sway me to the canon if i am undecided between the canon and either the nikon or the sony i know tamron and sigma do lens's i believe for cannon are these any good or is it best sticking to the canon lens's for those cameras



    Tamron and Sigma lenses can be good, they also can be pretty poor - they have quite a wide range of quality as do the 1st party lenses. The cheaper super-wide range zooms (28-200mm etc) tend not to be very good for image quality (but they are very handy if you don't want to carry round lots of lenses). Theres a really useful site for Sony Alpha lenses called ]dyxum where people rate and review 1st and 3rd party lenses for the Sony/KM range but not sure if similar sites exist for the bigger players - guess they do but not sure.

    I'm not sure about the older Canon lenses - someone else will know for sure, my guess is *probably* not if they are 20+ years old but you might be able to get an adapter of ebay etc? I assume they are autofocus lenses? With Sony you can use any Minolta-AF lens (launched mid-1980s) and most 3rd party M-AF lenses but not the older MD lenses (manual focus)...

    Original Poster

    ok thanks i'll read some reviews

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    sancho1983;3185166

    RAW is a very useful tool if you plan on using PS afterwards. And i will … RAW is a very useful tool if you plan on using PS afterwards. And i will be the first to say you shouldn't be using scene modes anyway :P My advice would be to learn what apperature is and how it effects things, then just use Av mode, i have a Canon, not sure what it's called on other models.



    Agreed, however if the OP is going away soon, I doubt he will have enough time, it's not exactly a 5 minute job to learn, and he would probably get better results using the scene modes.
    It's one thing nipping out for an hour to play with the camera, getting back and finding out all the shots are rubbish, you can go back the next day. Popping back to the USA probably isn't as easy!
    The Sony allows RAW shooting in scene modes whereas the canon doesn't, so in this particular case I would recommend the sony over the canon. If of course the holiday isn't for a few months then a canon may be better.

    Original Poster

    does anyone think it is worth getting the a200 and then spending the extra money on extra lens's


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