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    I am looking to upgrade my Olympus Compact to a digital SLR.

    I have looked at the Olympus 520 but I believe Olympus can only take bespoke lenses. My second choice is the Canon 1000d.

    I am looking at bundles with a 18-55 lens and either a 55-200 or 70-300.

    May I have your thoughts please.

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    I'm a Canon man, but mainly because a few of my friends have canon so we can 'share' lenses.

    I went for a second hand 20d, then bought a few lenses, they're what's important (and being able to take a good photo, obv)

    I believe all of the brands will only take their own lenses, even tamaron and sigma have a different 'fit' for each brand.

    If you go with Canon then get yourself the 18-55 is, then the 55-250 is, then the 1.8 50mm. All the lenses you will need for a while!!

    http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu79/sancho_1983/headspincontrastvign.jpg

    With my 20d and the 18-55 lens

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    sancho1983;5777040

    I'm a Canon man, but mainly because a few of my friends have canon so we … I'm a Canon man, but mainly because a few of my friends have canon so we can 'share' lenses. I went for a second hand 20d, then bought a few lenses, they're what's important (and being able to take a good photo, obv)I believe all of the brands will only take their own lenses, even tamaron and sigma have a different 'fit' for each brand.If you go with Canon then get yourself the 18-55 is, then the 55-250 is, then the 1.8 50mm. All the lenses you will need for a while!!With my 20d and the 18-55 lens



    Thanks for the advice, my only reservation about second hand is that, any second hand item can break and you have no comeback. That is why I am looking at the 1000d as I have been told it is a good starter camera.

    As for the 55-250 no bundles appear to be available with this one.

    By your definition all SLRs take 'bespoke' lenses as each system uses their own mount, therefore you need Nikon lenses for a Nikon body, Canon lenses for a Canon body, Pentax lenses for a Pentax etc. There are some third party lens manufacturers who produce lenses for Nikon, Canon, Olympus etc. such as Sigma but still a Nikon F-mount Sigma lens will not fit a Canon and so forth. It's not just lenses either, it's much the same with flashes and other accessories so you're not just choosing a body, you're choosing a system .

    With that mind it's a good idea to have a think long term what you'd like in terms of lenses, flashes and other accessories then price them up to see which system matches your needs the best. Olympus have very good quality kit lenses as are most of their range plus they don't strip any features for entry leve cameras as Nikon/Canon do , if you're wanting to start off with a dual lens kit and add a couple more lenses long term for wide angle and telephoto the Olympus is a good choice. However second hand market availibility is much lower than Nikon/Canon and if you start climbing up to the mid and upper range lenses you'll find your wallet emptying quickly. Equipment for Canon/Nikon is more widespread both new and secondhand making it easier to find parts especially if you're looking for second hand lenses, flashes etc.

    John

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    Johnmcl7;5777362

    With that mind it's a good idea to have a think long term what you'd like … With that mind it's a good idea to have a think long term what you'd like in terms of lenses, flashes and other accessories then price them up to see which system matches your needs the best. Olympus have very good quality kit lenses as are most of their range plus they don't strip any features for entry leve cameras as Nikon/Canon do , if you're wanting to start off with a dual lens kit and add a couple more lenses long term for wide angle and telephoto the Olympus is a good choice. However second hand market availibility is much lower than Nikon/Canon and if you start climbing up to the mid and upper range lenses you'll find your wallet emptying quickly. Equipment for Canon/Nikon is more widespread both new and secondhand making it easier to find parts especially if you're looking for second hand lenses, flashes etc.John



    If I have read your post correctly then.

    Olympus are a good starter, but more expensive to build on, where as Canon/Nikon not too many features on starter cameras but easier/cheaper to expand on?

    Yes, that is part of it although to be fair to Nikon/Canon their entry level bodies are still solid and I doubt many people miss the features they remove. Olympus have a slightly smaller sensor which means they tend to be weaker for high ISO noise however their lenses are usually better than their rivals at the same price level.

    I don't think there's any clearcut one system is better than another, you need to consider what features are important to you and which are less so then choose the system that matches your needs the best.

    John

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    Johnmcl7;5777686

    Yes, that is part of it although to be fair to Nikon/Canon their entry … Yes, that is part of it although to be fair to Nikon/Canon their entry level bodies are still solid and I doubt many people miss the features they remove. Olympus have a slightly smaller sensor which means they tend to be weaker for high ISO noise however their lenses are usually better than their rivals at the same price level.I don't think there's any clearcut one system is better than another, you need to consider what features are important to you and which are less so then choose the system that matches your needs the best.John



    I have a digital camcorder so that feature is not required, and just basic pictures with/with AF, sports mode and scenery.

    Cheers for your help.

    You could pick up a second hand one with only a few thousand photos and a couple of lenses for £300, and it could be good as new. I seem to remember Argos being cheap for the 1000d

    [url]www.camerapricebuster.co.uk[/url]

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    nice one...cheers

    I'd also recommend trying some cameras out in the flesh, I've seen some people that have spent a long time deliberating over the specs then gone into the store to find they didn't actually like the camera that was first on their list and ended up with another one entirely.

    John

    If you do go for a Canon then i might be selling my 50mm 1.8 lens in the next couple of days.

    I agree with Johnmc17, i was looking at a new 400d, but then i felt one in the shop and thought i would break it! The 20/30/40/50d just feel more olid in my oversized hands. Plus the extra 'cosmetic' features such as the jog wheel on the back and the second LCD on the top make it perfect for me.

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    Thanks for all the help so far. I believe that as I am a begginger(ish) spending much on a camera would be a waste, however, I do not know enough, to confidently, buy a second hand camera.

    Good plan, that was my idea too, my second hand 20d was about £200, but that was a few months ago, you should be able to get a pretty good deal. They hold their value quite well so you can always sell it if you don't use it enough.

    That was my plan, but i use mine loads and have gradually added bits and pieces as i've gone along. How i'm treating myself to a shiny new Macro lens next week

    sancho1983;5789621

    Good plan, that was my idea too, my second hand 20d was about £200, but … Good plan, that was my idea too, my second hand 20d was about £200, but that was a few months ago, you should be able to get a pretty good deal. They hold their value quite well so you can always sell it if you don't use it enough. That was my plan, but i use mine loads and have gradually added bits and pieces as i've gone along. How i'm treating myself to a shiny new Macro lens next week



    What one you going for Sancho?

    60mm have found a good deal second hand

    if you are after a cheap beginners DSLR then i would highly recommend the sony A200, i bought one last octiber and I love it. It does everything I need it to do and it is no different to the equivalent canon or nikon. Take a look at it, its a pretty good price as well.

    sancho1983;5791564

    60mm have found a good deal second hand



    Got that lens myself,cracking wee lens, also great for portrait work. :thumbsup:

    That was my reasoning for getting it, with the little one coming along i wanted a top class lens that will be good for close up detail, portrait and more. This seemed to fit the bill!!

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    Thanks for all the informatioin given, but I was pointed in the direction of the Sony A350 and as it is priced similarly as the others and it is 14.2 M I have bought that one.
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