Help With Laptop Advice Please!!!!

ive got a blu ray laptop recently and would like to connect the laptop to the tv because it has blu ray i should be able to use that to watch hd movies onto my hd tv but what cables do i need to connect it to the tv???

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hey,

You need to look need to press a button to select the laptop to project to an external source. I have to press Fn & F5 together (don't panic if you screen goes off as some laptops will only show on one screen or the other).

Original Poster

yeah but dont i need any cables to connect the laptop to the tv cause i wont get a picture?

RUFUS;4577693

hey,You need to look need to press a button to select the laptop to … hey,You need to look need to press a button to select the laptop to project to an external source. I have to press Fn & F5 together (don't panic if you screen goes off as some laptops will only show on one screen or the other).

Yeah, what type of TV do you have? If it is a LCD or plasma, does it have a PC input? If not you need a PC monitor to the 3 sockets (1 yellow, 1 red. 1 white).

RUFUS;4577785

Yeah, what type of TV do you have? If it is a LCD or plasma, does it have … Yeah, what type of TV do you have? If it is a LCD or plasma, does it have a PC input? If not you need a PC monitor to the 3 sockets (1 yellow, 1 red. 1 white).



Wrong I'm afraid. The best connection is HDMI if your laptop and TV have that. If your laptop only has DVI you need a DVI to HDMI cable, and also a seperate cable to carry the audio. This might be a 3.5mm headphone jack to 2 x phono

Original Poster

its a Philips 37" Ambilight LCD TV but dont think it has a pc input looking at specs now

RUFUS;4577785

Yeah, what type of TV do you have? If it is a LCD or plasma, does it have … Yeah, what type of TV do you have? If it is a LCD or plasma, does it have a PC input? If not you need a PC monitor to the 3 sockets (1 yellow, 1 red. 1 white).

Original Poster

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Heavertron;4577854

Wrong I'm afraid. The best connection is HDMI if your laptop and TV have … Wrong I'm afraid. The best connection is HDMI if your laptop and TV have that. If your laptop only has DVI you need a DVI to HDMI cable, and also a seperate cable to carry the audio. This might be a 3.5mm headphone jack to 2 x phono

Original Poster

right the specs are up from my laptop that i recently bought

adam09wyatt;4577949

right the specs are up from my laptop that i recently bought



I am pretty sure that if you dont have either HDMI or DVI you cannot get an HD signal to your TV. Even if you had a VGA input it would just that and thats not HD. Take your laptop back to where you bought it and get them to explain how you are gonna do it....

Original Poster

i made it on dell so it quite hard it was just an idea to do it anyways im happy with watching blu rays on my lappy but would of been a bonus if i could connect it to the tv.


mosskeeto;4578033

I am pretty sure that if you dont have either HDMI or DVI you cannot get … I am pretty sure that if you dont have either HDMI or DVI you cannot get an HD signal to your TV. Even if you had a VGA input it would just that and thats not HD. Take your laptop back to where you bought it and get them to explain how you are gonna do it....

that laptop SHOULD have hdmi output. dells often do.

Original Poster

well it is the new inspiron the highest version you can get i spent enough on it with bluetooth and blu ray if you can find a way let me know but i dont think it going to work.


shanecr;4578074

that laptop SHOULD have hdmi output. dells often do.

adam09wyatt;4578101

well it is the new inspiron the highest version you can get i spent … well it is the new inspiron the highest version you can get i spent enough on it with bluetooth and blu ray if you can find a way let me know but i dont think it going to work.



then i pretty much guarantee it has hdmi. does your tv have hdmi input?

Original Poster

yeah it got 3 or 4 hdmi inputs


shanecr;4578116

then i pretty much guarantee it has hdmi. does your tv have hdmi input?

adam09wyatt;4578170

yeah it got 3 or 4 hdmi inputs



you are sorted then. hdmi lead. bluray on ya tv :thumbsup:

Original Poster

where can i buy a hdmi lead from? would there be a usb hdmi about at all?


shanecr;4578193

you are sorted then. hdmi lead. bluray on ya tv :thumbsup:

adam09wyatt;4578210

where can i buy a hdmi lead from? would there be a usb hdmi about at all?



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Original Poster

i looked in the setup guide for the laptop and it hasnt got hdmi so i think ill leave it for the mo but thanks for the help.


shanecr;4578258

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adam09wyatt;4578289

i looked in the setup guide for the laptop and it hasnt got hdmi so i … i looked in the setup guide for the laptop and it hasnt got hdmi so i think ill leave it for the mo but thanks for the help.



what model laptop is it exactly?

im sure even the dell mini 10 and mini12 have hdmi!

Original Poster

the inspiron 15 (1545) only been out 2 months!

shanecr;4578549

what model laptop is it exactly?

Original Poster

yeah how gay is that the minis have the hdmi port and connector bit of a bummer!!


shanecr;4578588

im sure even the dell mini 10 and mini12 have hdmi!

]this with a vga cable will work, if your tv has dvi input, but it also probably have a vga pc input too.

Original Poster

yea that may work but duno if it will be high def on my tv


shanecr;4579042

]this with a vga cable will work, if your tv has dvi input, but it also … ]this with a vga cable will work, if your tv has dvi input, but it also probably have a vga pc input too.

shanecr;4579042

]this with a vga cable will work, if your tv has dvi input, but it also … ]this with a vga cable will work, if your tv has dvi input, but it also probably have a vga pc input too.



adam09wyatt;4579102

yea that may work but duno if it will be high def on my tv



No, no, no! That will not work at all. VGA output from the laptop is an analog signal whereas DVI-I is an output consisting of the standard digital signals and an extra 4 pins for VGA signals (RGB and Synchronisation). The cable is intended for graphics adapters with a DVI-I connector and allows the 4 pin analogue signals of a DVI-I connector to be fed into a VGA input of a monitor.

Furthermore, VGA being an analogue signal does not support HDCP decoding which is a requirement of current blu ray playback software. Everything in the chain needs HDCP decoding including the graphics card and the display. Cyberlink's BD Advisor will determine if the system conforms to the correct standards for blu ray playback.

ElliottC;4579192

No, no, no! That will not work at all. VGA output from the laptop is an … No, no, no! That will not work at all. VGA output from the laptop is an analog signal whereas DVI-I is an output consisting of the standard digital signals and an extra 4 pins for VGA signals (RGB and Synchronisation). The cable is intended for graphics adapters with a DVI-I connector and allows the 4 pin analogue signals of a DVI-I connector to be fed into a VGA input of a monitor.Furthermore, VGA being an analogue signal does not support HDCP decoding which is a requirement of current blu ray playback software. Everything in the chain needs HDCP decoding including the graphics card and the display. Cyberlink's BD Advisor will determine if the system conforms to the correct standards for blu ray playback.



ya. i listen to this guy. He gives sound advice on this kinda stuff.

Original Poster

Ok ok bit technical but i fink i get that so basically youyr trying to say is if i even buy a vga with a hdmi cable connect the vga to my laptop and the hdmi to the tv it wont or will work?
also what about a dvi adapter with a hdmi connector will that work i just really wana see if theres a way round this.

ElliottC;4579192

No, no, no! That will not work at all. VGA output from the laptop is an … No, no, no! That will not work at all. VGA output from the laptop is an analog signal whereas DVI-I is an output consisting of the standard digital signals and an extra 4 pins for VGA signals (RGB and Synchronisation). The cable is intended for graphics adapters with a DVI-I connector and allows the 4 pin analogue signals of a DVI-I connector to be fed into a VGA input of a monitor.Furthermore, VGA being an analogue signal does not support HDCP decoding which is a requirement of current blu ray playback software. Everything in the chain needs HDCP decoding including the graphics card and the display. Cyberlink's BD Advisor will determine if the system conforms to the correct standards for blu ray playback.

adam09wyatt;4579358

Ok ok bit technical but i fink i get that so basically youyr trying to … Ok ok bit technical but i fink i get that so basically youyr trying to say is if i even buy a vga with a hdmi cable connect the vga to my laptop and the hdmi to the tv it wont or will work?



VGA to HDMI is not a direct conversion so you will never find a single lead that allows for this.

VGA to DVI-I is a direct conversion because VGA carries the RGB and synchronisation signals and so DVI-I has that capability too. DVI-D is different and is digital only (and KlondikeMike, in case you are reading it is not an abbreviation for DVI dual link).

If your TV has DVI-I (and NOT DVI-D) then you can use VGA to DVI-I cable but there is a caveat. Blu Ray playback software for PCs (such as PowerDVD, WinDVD, Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre) require HDCP decoding built into the graphics card and the display. HDCP is an encryption method and the decoding of it is one of the standards of "HD Ready" as required by the EICTA standards. Now, HDCP encoding and decoding only applies to digital signals (it stands to reason, really, as these are software algorithms). I am sure you know that VGA signals are analogue and therefore cannot be used to decode HDCP even though VGA does support HD resolutions (a previous poster on this thread is wrong in saying that VGA is not HD).

The upshot is that if you do not have a digital interface for your graphics output on the laptop you will not be able to watch blu ray films on your TV and even if you did have a digital interface (such as DVI or HDMI) then there is the requirement for HDCP decoding (of which your laptop's graphics actually does possess the functionality).

One thing to bear in mind with connecting VGA from your laptop to VGA on your Philips TV is that there is a strange bug I have noticed on certain Ambilight models and that is with the Ambilight on, the mouse cursor occassionally freezes. Switching off Ambilight seems to cure the problem.

To sum up the requirements for blu ray playback:

1. Digital interface such as DVI or HDMI Or DisplayPort.
2. The digital interface MUST support HDCP decoding. Just because an interface is HDMI does not necessarily mean that HDCP decoding is built in.
3. The complete chain in the blu ray playback is required to be HDCP compliant, i.e the graphics card and the display.
4. VGA and component support HD resolutions but cannot be used to decode HDCP.

Original Poster

ok i def know that my tv has the DVI input, whats this hdcp decoding thing?
thanks for letting me know all this but its all abit complicated for my liking to sort this all out.

ElliottC;4579442

VGA to HDMI is not a direct conversion so you will never find a single … VGA to HDMI is not a direct conversion so you will never find a single lead that allows for this.VGA to DVI-I is a direct conversion because VGA carries the RGB and synchronisation signals and so DVI-I has that capability too. DVI-D is different and is digital only (and KlondikeMike, in case you are reading it is not an abbreviation for DVI dual link).If your TV has DVI-I (and NOT DVI-D) then you can use VGA to DVI-I cable but there is a caveat. Blu Ray playback software for PCs (such as PowerDVD, WinDVD, Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre) require HDCP decoding built into the graphics card and the display. HDCP is an encryption method and the decoding of it is one of the standards of "HD Ready" as required by the EICTA standards. Now, HDCP encoding and decoding only applies to digital signals (it stands to reason, really, as these are software algorithms). I am sure you know that VGA signals are analogue and therefore cannot be used to decode HDCP even though VGA does support HD resolutions (a previous poster on this thread is wrong in saying that VGA is not HD).The upshot is that if you do not have a digital interface for your graphics output on the laptop you will not be able to watch blu ray films on your TV and even if you did have a digital interface (such as DVI or HDMI) then there is the requirement for HDCP decoding (of which your laptop's graphics actually does possess the functionality). One thing to bear in mind with connecting VGA from your laptop to VGA on your Philips TV is that there is a strange bug I have noticed on certain Ambilight models and that is with the Ambilight on, the mouse cursor occassionally freezes. Switching off Ambilight seems to cure the problem.To sum up the requirements for blu ray playback:1. Digital interface such as DVI or HDMI Or DisplayPort.2. The digital interface MUST support HDCP decoding. Just because an interface is HDMI does not necessarily mean that HDCP decoding is built in.3. The complete chain in the blu ray playback is required to be HDCP compliant, i.e the graphics card and the display.4. VGA and component support HD resolutions but cannot be used to decode HDCP.

adam09wyatt;4579502

ok i def know that my tv has the DVI input, whats this hdcp decoding … ok i def know that my tv has the DVI input, whats this hdcp decoding thing?thanks for letting me know all this but its all abit complicated for my liking to sort this all out.



If your TV's DVI input is DVI-D then you won't be able to connect from your laptop's VGA out to the DVI-D in on your TV. If the TV is DVI-I then you can connect VGA to DVI-I (only 4 pins of the DVI-I are used for this). However, connecting VGA to DVI-I will NOT allow you to play blu ray movies on your TV which was the reason for my rather eager "No, no, no" earlier.

HDCP, or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection is a form of encryption employed in some high definition movies such as Blu-Ray movies. Because each connection in the chain is required to be HDCP compliant, it is almost impossible to "tap out" a signal in between connections to copy the movie. More information can be gleaned here: en.wikipedia.org/wik…ion

Original Poster

ok thanks for the help!

ElliottC;4579564

If your TV's DVI input is DVI-D then you won't be able to connect from … If your TV's DVI input is DVI-D then you won't be able to connect from your laptop's VGA out to the DVI-D in on your TV. If the TV is DVI-I then you can connect VGA to DVI-I (only 4 pins of the DVI-I are used for this). However, connecting VGA to DVI-I will NOT allow you to play blu ray movies on your TV which was the reason for my rather eager "No, no, no" earlier.HDCP, or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection is a form of encryption employed in some high definition movies such as Blu-Ray movies. Because each connection in the chain is required to be HDCP compliant, it is almost impossible to "tap out" a signal in between connections to copy the movie. More information can be gleaned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

the porter;4578573

its got a blu ray drive but no hdmi how mads tha!!t and you lot go on … its got a blu ray drive but no hdmi how mads tha!!t and you lot go on about dells as being the dogs ******** ill stick with my vaio ta



LOL Vaio all the way for Blu Ray!... also HDMI outputs the audio too...no need for the 3.5mm jack (so you get HD sound too)

mate seriously just buy a ps3 for blu rays on a big screen if your laptop doesn't have hdmi out...there must be some good deals on here...its v good investment...can do loads more on ps3 than play games and blu-rays too if you wanted.

Original Poster

i already have a ps3 but share it with my bro so its abit annoying us sharing so thats why i wanted to see if my laptop would work as one for my tv but didnt know how to do it with the cables and that but will prob get a my own ps3 when i got enuf dosh

Xiwt;4579606

mate seriously just buy a ps3 for blu rays on a big screen if your laptop … mate seriously just buy a ps3 for blu rays on a big screen if your laptop doesn't have hdmi out...there must be some good deals on here...its v good investment...can do loads more on ps3 than play games and blu-rays too if you wanted.

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