Found 8th May 2011
want to buy our son a laptop for his 18th but havent a clue where to start can anyone recommend where to buy was thinking of dell ??

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Can't go wrong with a macbook. its what all the sixth formers want in my school unless he likes his games, then go for alienware laptops!

Can't recommend without an upper price limit.

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dcx_badass

Telling us your budget would help. I wonder how some people remember to … Telling us your budget would help. I wonder how some people remember to breath with such a lack of common sense.If your budget is limitless then I apologise.



do you have to be so rude !

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Ungreat

Can't recommend without an upper price limit.



i was thinking of around £500

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dcx_badass

Yes, when every single day we get stupid questions from people who can't … Yes, when every single day we get stupid questions from people who can't be bothered to give us any info. We'll try to help but if you can't be bothered, we can't be bothered.



its not a case of not being bothered i just didnt think to put a price ! i dont want your help anyway cause your rude and arrogant oh and now blocked !

So, no help yet Skiboy?

Personally, I have always used a Sony Vaio, they seem to be very reliable, and good quality, plus they have some resale value in the future. However, I also use a Macbook, which to be honest, will most likely last your son at least twice as long as a standard PC - I am not starting a MAC VS PC debate, just that it is the way things are going, and when you see them running you will agree they do the job better, pop to an apple store and look.

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thanks alot aircanman will go and have a look, great help !

aircanman

Personally, I have always used a Sony Vaio, they seem to be very … Personally, I have always used a Sony Vaio, they seem to be very reliable, and good quality, plus they have some resale value in the future. However, I also use a Macbook, which to be honest, will most likely last your son at least twice as long as a standard PC - I am not starting a MAC VS PC debate, just that it is the way things are going, and when you see them running you will agree they do the job better, pop to an apple store and look.



But for £500? No chance of a MacBook really?

I like both, and have a Vaio too, to be honest with your budget I'd go for something on here that pops up like an acer or something, maybe a 13.3" screen because portability is pretty important if he wants to study on the go or take it into college like I did.

If you don't mind second hand you'll get some pretty good deals sub-500 on eBay for Vaio SR series or S series which I would recommend.

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thanks orbriendeal, i looked at the macbooks and agree that for £500 not really so may raise my budget or go for the vaio, thanks for your help.

Do you think he will need portability or power? Does he play games on your current PC or does he just email and facebook? Is he going to uni and is it a course that has specific PC needs (like graphic design).

Just getting an idea of what kind of graphics he may need as that can add a lot to the cost.

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hi ungreat at home he uses his pc mainly for email and facebook yes he is going to uni, he will be studying modern languages so i suppose mainly for email and the internet.

You need 15.6" screen or less as anything bigger is to large to carry and it sounds like you don't need dedicated graphics.

Did a few searches on here and it seems a few brand name laptops for sub £500 are around.

Sony

It's been a few years since I bought a Laptop so you would have to ask others if the specs are worth it but Sony's build quality should be okay.

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thanks very much ungreat

avoid Acer , Samsung , Lenova and Dell !!!

Toshiba , Sony , Asus are far better

Sumesh

avoid Acer , Samsung , Lenova and Dell !!! Toshiba , Sony , Asus are far … avoid Acer , Samsung , Lenova and Dell !!! Toshiba , Sony , Asus are far better



Whats wrong with Acer?

dtovey89

Whats wrong with Acer?



Rubbish Laptop with all cheap components inside !!!

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thanks sumesh think i am going to go for a sony

dcx_badass

In your opinion. Mine however is over 2 years old, has circumnavigated … In your opinion. Mine however is over 2 years old, has circumnavigated the globe with me, whilst slung in a back pack with all my other stuff, has been used in random hostels and airports, has been thrown in my bag with books and things every day to uni and still works perfectly. They don't use cheap parts either, most laptops all use the same parts. (Hint, an intel cpu is an intel cpu, and samsung ram is samsung ram regardless as to whether the outer case says Apple or Asus).



if it still works then you are lucky !!! you get what you pay for !!!

I meant the motherboard which wont last longer and they still tend to use the cheaper ones !!!


Sumesh

if it still works then you are lucky !!! you get what you pay for !!! I … if it still works then you are lucky !!! you get what you pay for !!! I meant the motherboard which wont last longer and they still tend to use the cheaper ones !!!



Most laptops are made by Chinese and Taiwanese companies such as Compal, Quanta, and so on. The badge on the exterior is not a sign of workmanship or build quality. Regarding motherboards, to give an example Foxconn are the suppliers of motherboards to certain Dell laptop models. Which of the brands you have listed source motherboards from Foxconn? If you use CPU Z as your source, remember that all it does is to provide a BIOS string readout rather than the true manufacturer of the board - i.e. the manufacturer may be the brand rather than the actual OEM.

As pointed out above an Apple logo or an Acer logo does not give any implication towards build quality. If you are basing your information on polls and surveys, read them carefully and with an open mind.
Edited by: "ElliottC" 10th May 2011

Banned

I'd avoid Acer purely on the basis they're normally hideous looking.

master_chief

I'd avoid Acer purely on the basis they're normally hideous looking.



Ah, at least you gave a valid reason, albeit subjective.

Is there a particular problem with Dell laptops? My better half is going to be dragging me to look at one soon and would like to know if there is a good reason not to buy one. Its a Inspirion M501R from Tesco, currently sitting at £399 and would seem, spec wise, to do everything and more of what she would need.

moose109

Is there a particular problem with Dell laptops? My better half is going … Is there a particular problem with Dell laptops? My better half is going to be dragging me to look at one soon and would like to know if there is a good reason not to buy one. Its a Inspirion M501R from Tesco, currently sitting at £399 and would seem, spec wise, to do everything and more of what she would need.



Laptop brands have had their fair share of reliability issues but this does not just apply to Dell. Typical examples are red faces at Sony with dangerous batteries on certain laptops and Dell having to admit to issues with overheating SLI 8800GT cards, after relentless pressure from users (including myself). I am sure other brands have suffered similar embarassments - Apple users, don't laugh because Apple are not exempt from reliability issues too despite commanding a high premium. Thankfully laptop recalls due to defective OEM components are not common but the media and the general public love to exaggerate. The upshot of all this is that the defects do not lie with the brand but with the OEM of the ccomponents in question. Hence, buying a Dell laptop is not guaranteed to give you any less reliabilty than a Sony or Apple brand, for example. Brand perception and general public rhetoric are very powerful but common sense and factual researcch should prevail.

Thanks guys, I'm going to check specs are what is written on the website and it doesn't feel flimsy etc as she has a destructive cat!

moose109

Is there a particular problem with Dell laptops? My better half is going … Is there a particular problem with Dell laptops? My better half is going to be dragging me to look at one soon and would like to know if there is a good reason not to buy one. Its a Inspirion M501R from Tesco, currently sitting at £399 and would seem, spec wise, to do everything and more of what she would need.



the only model my friends had was xps which was much reliable than these entry level inspiron !!!

Sumesh

the only model my friends had was xps which was much reliable than these … the only model my friends had was xps which was much reliable than these entry level inspiron !!!



Ironically, the XPS models that my brother and I owned developed the same issues with the inbuilt nVidia graphics. One of the GPUs failed and as I mentioned earlier after repeated pressure Dell admitted a manufacturing defect, although Dell are not the Original Equipment Manufacturer, I hasten to add. This does not affect my perception of quality of Dell laptops but does affect my perception of the company in terms of technical support and service after repeated lies and unfounded statements.

What are the foundations of your measurement that your friend's XPS is more reliable than entry level Inspirons? It's an interesting claim you have made, especially with the profuse use of exclamation marks which denote that you may have striking examples.
Edited by: "ElliottC" 10th May 2011
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