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    Help with RAM & a good, cheap "Gaming" graphics card

    Hey, would anyone be able to help me out, I have 4gb ram (2x2gb) at the moment with only 2 slots to play with to upgrade to 8gb. I also need a new graphics card, as the inbuilt one is kinda crappy (can't even handle Battlefield Heroes well enough unless on the lowest settings).


    My specs from crucial

    Maximum Memory Capacity: 8192MB
    Currently Installed Memory: 4GB (DDR2 PC2-6400)
    Available Memory Slots: 0
    Total Memory Slots: 2
    Dual Channel Support: Yes
    CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
    CPU Family: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz
    CPU Speed: 2499 MHz

    The inbuilt graphics are NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i

    I have a PCI-E 16x slot that's unused at the moment. But, I have no idea if anything on my system limits what card I can use.
    Cheers in advance for any help.

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    As Mumbo says, need more information on the Power Supply.
    Also, any particular reason why you want 8GB of memory?
    Edited by: "PhearFactor" 8th Feb 2011

    What budget for your graphics card and what is your psu?
    Possible graphics cards - sapphire ati hd 5770 @ £94.50 pixmania.co.uk/uk/…tml
    XFX ati 4670 @ £59.99 (low power card) @ cclonline.com/pro…af3
    Edited by: "mkins99" 8th Feb 2011

    I'm selling a HD4870 on here if you are interested.

    beavisrules

    need to know if you have a PSU with pci-e power connector



    He could use one of these:
    http://www.keuren.eu/images/72.2MOLEX-PCIe.gif

    What we need to know really is a model number for the PSU, or information from the label such as the amps on each rail, or at the least what watt it is. The additional power connector doesn't really matter as adapters can be used (as above). The problem is he could be using a very low watt power supply which couldn't support these GPUs that require extra power.

    That doesn't mean we cannot help him though, or that he needs to upgrade his power supply. There are a few cards out there better than what he has currently (onboard 7100) that wouldn't need massive amounts of extra power.

    Edited by: "PhearFactor" 8th Feb 2011

    Original Poster

    PhearFactor

    As Mumbo says, need more information on the Power Supply. Also, any … As Mumbo says, need more information on the Power Supply. Also, any particular reason why you want 8GB of memory?


    Just had a check for the PSU details. I have a ATX-250pa. So, 250W. As for the 8GB, just thought I'd do my best to try and get the most out of this PC. Wanted it to be able to handle some new games quite well, as I said in op, I was kinda annoyed that Battlefield Heroes was too much for my PC.
    Edited by: "Monkae" 8th Feb 2011

    Ah okay, 4GB should be plenty enough for gaming Monkae.

    How much is your budget, obviously depending on that depends on what your best option will be. You could pump it all into just a graphics card which would greatly improve gaming performance. Although what I would do in your position is split it between a PSU that is 500W+ and a graphics card. This should then leave you plenty of headroom to upgrade other components in the future yet still be able to run a fairly powerful video card.

    250W is a little on the low side and it would be a little bit risky if you was to put a mainstream video card in there. The majority of cards now require additional power connectors as talked about above, I think generally these cards will use anywhere between 150W to over 300W on their own, so your PSU will need addressing if you wanted to get this sort of GPU.

    Edited by: "PhearFactor" 8th Feb 2011

    Original Poster

    Well, if I can utilise just the card itself to increase the performance, i'd say my budget is around £100 (leeway either side of that). As I'm not too technical, so I don't know if that's a bit on the low side to buy something good. Maybe stretch a bit if I need a newer PSU.

    If you was to get a GT240 you could probably get away with using only a 350W-400W PSU.

    However if you wanted to take it a step up to a GT250 card that is a fair bit more powerful, you would probably need to start looking into a 600W power supply.

    Original Poster

    If I were to go with this 600W PSU, what card would you recommend?

    And would getting this 780 PSU just be overkill?

    Hi Monkae

    Those Power Supplies you just linked me to are what are considered generic power supplies. They are very cheap and are extremely overkill for a reason. Mostly because the manufacturers are lying and they are useless. A complete waste of money in reality even though they are dirt cheap.

    A good place to start in understanding power supplies is here: 600 - 700W PSU Review Round-Up - pay particular attention to the Generic 600W review on the 2nd page.

    Bare in mind, a power supply is without a doubt the most important component in your computer. Saving £15 by buying cheap could end up costing you a few hundred notes if it goes bang and blows up.

    go for a corsair psu 500W + you wont go wrong big reputable brand and won awards

    Original Poster

    Okay, so Corsair seems a better bet than what I was looking at on Maplin. If I go for the CX500 (500 version of the one PhearFactor linked me) what kind of choice in graphics cards do i have?

    PhearFactor

    A good place to start in understanding power supplies is here: 600 - 700W … A good place to start in understanding power supplies is here: 600 - 700W PSU Review Round-Up

    thanks for that link, btw
    Edited by: "Monkae" 8th Feb 2011

    You should be able to run the GT250 that I linked earlier on a 500W power supply (possibly even a 450W).

    I do tend to go a little bit overkill, headroom is always good as you never know what you might upgrade to next. I personally think, spend a little more with your upgrade this time and you can end up spending less next time (because your overkill PSU this time will still be perfectly acceptable for the next upgrade).

    A 500W power supply could probably run a 5850 in your system. As I said though, if next time you decide to go for an even more powerful card, you could find yourself forking out about £60-£80 on another power supply, whereas if you spend the extra £10 now that won't ever be an issue.
    Edited by: "PhearFactor" 9th Feb 2011

    no reason for a mental 600w psu , 400w would be 150w more than you have now , so would be fine - untill you upgrade to new motherboard or dozens of hdd's.
    stick with a good brand , Antec or whatever (I personaly recomend friends buy used dell psu's from fleabay)
    And an nvidia 9800gt , which would be my choice. less than 70 quids , based on old technology but pretty capable still. uses less than 105w.
    The ATI(now AMD) hardware is genraly better but their driver software sucks.
    Some of the ATI cards - like the HD5570 (also about 70 quid) have audio over HDMI , which is very nice feature.

    Original Poster

    I think I've decided, lol.

    Corsair 500W CX PSU
    ASUS HD 5570 1GB DDR3

    £103.76 = not bad for a £100 budget

    oh, and a 55p ebuyer mug, so I can have a coffee after setting it all up, lol

    Should be a nice upgrade to your previous setup Monkae. If you need any help setting it up just post on here and I am sure someone will be around to help

    Original Poster

    Thanks for all your help guys.

    And thanks to mumbojumbo for cheeky diss in the first reply... awesome :P

    mumbojumbo

    Almost any card will be better than your onboard graphics. (_;)


    while it will be a nice upgrade the 5570 is no means a decent gaming card if you are serious about gaming.

    really depends on your budget, what resolutions do u game at?

    Original Poster

    I've not long got into gaming on the PC. My budget was around £100

    muffin247

    while it will be a nice upgrade the 5570 is no means a decent gaming card … while it will be a nice upgrade the 5570 is no means a decent gaming card if you are serious about gaming.really depends on your budget, what resolutions do u game at?

    ok seems about right then u can always decide to upgrade later

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