Found 17th Jan 2007
Alo All ....

im tempted in buyin a larger mp3 player, looking for a 30gb video

what would people recommend & why ?? apple(ipod) or creative (zen) ?

i deffinitly want one but dont know which one to get / where to buy the cheapest (boots offer looks good !)

Thanks in advance

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[SIZE=2]I have 3 Creative Zen thingies. I think they are a lot cheaper than an Ipod and as far as I know they do the same thing. I'm not 100% sure though.[/SIZE]

Definitely Creative Zen, I had one for a while, but I've always liked Creative products, be they sound cards or speakers. I think they are great quality.

I think the iPod thing is just image, everyone only buys them for the image I think.

I'm not sure if this is the issue still, as I haven't read up on them in a few months, but do the iPod still have the fixed irreplacable battery, whereas the Zen's is replaceable?

In general.

Creatives are cheaper for the exact same specs as an ipod and more reliable. Some will have probably owned ipods happily for years, but I can guarntee you out of a large cross section of friends I have found that most Ipod users had problems which then became repeat problems when they bought new also. Where as in the same amount of time, only 2 creative problems have occured, I had one and so did 1 other friend, whereas the many others never had a problem, and neither me or him have had problems since. Based on that I'd go creative all the time

I would vote Creative, my gf's sisters had on average two new ipods per year being replaced over the last 3 or 4 years, my gf's only had one Creative Zen, no replacement required.

Plus I think that most of the accessories for ipod do have creative counterparts out there.

All depends what your motivation is for getting one?

We could have a Creative v Apple poll on this thread... :whistling: I think I'm already seeing the winner!

Original Poster

Thanks for all the replies !!!

ill see if i can add a poll haha

I have had Creative players since they were the first to offer hard drive mp3 players. I have compared many creative players with ipods, and quite honestly, the sound quality is far superior, the durablility is better, and the overall functions are better.

I believe the newest video ipod out there has improved its battery life and screen quality so it is inline with the zen vision:m now (if not better battery wise) but yet again, Creative were first with the longer lasting battery, 262k colour screen, and still are the best in regards to playing just about every format out there including divx/xvid.

I have the vision:m now, and love the bad boy. I guarantee its better than the ipod equivalent, every time

To that effect, get Creative and tell Apple to sod off with its rubbish!


Oh and a tip, if you get the vision:m, its firware is upgraded giving new functionality now and then, but get the american version firmware, not the european one, as the american does not have volume limiting on it

Creative for me. But I wouldnt buy the 30gb myself personally, they are a bit of a chunk! So ipod for 30gb, but if your are buying the smaller ones, id get the creative.

Wow, no votes for ipod yet!

Creative for me, even though mine broke. Prob was me being a bit too heavy hand with the on/off, they replaced it no questions asked!

Banned

I voted for the Ipod. I felt sorry for it, reminded me of when I was a kid and they were picking teams for football...

Original Poster

Thanks for voting

hmmmm, 10 people say Zen....

For all the people who say people want iPods because of the image, the same can be said for people going for Creative for the image - the image being that it's not an iPod and they think it's more important to be different. ;-)

iPods are the leading brand for a reason...

BristolDeal

iPods are the leading brand for a reason...



Yep, people will buy anything if it's marketed well :thumbsup: It's largely true because everytime I let people dabble with my player they agree it's better than their iPod.

If they didn't work, they wouldn't sell...

Style over substance Mounting the drive in different ways just to transport your files about, annoyingly wrapped up in iTunes. Not exactly market leading sound quality. Installing an endless array of third party programs just to move your music about as you see fit.

Both my bro and sis bought iPods and both are constantly irritated by them. Who do they call for answers? Me, that's who.

iPod for me. What people always overlook is their resale value. You'll have no problems selling your iPod when need be for top dollar, where as a Creative would probably struggle. Also, despite what people say about iTunes, I prefer that interface to using Windows Media Player or Napster. When I had my Creative, Windows kept on copying each song over twice - meaning my song menu's would be cluttered, and my space on the player was essentially halved. Then my battery wouldn't hold charge, and eventually the hard drive went all in the space of four months. Argos was kind enough to swap it over for an iPod and I haven't looked back to be honest. Genrally more people will report iPod faults because more people have iPods, but as long as you buy your player from somebody with a good returns policy, it really doesn't matter what you get! :thumbsup:

Good luck with whatever you buy!

Edit: Also iPods have a larger range of accessories available, should you want to spend more money in the future!

I got the Creative after reading about all the problems downloading copyrighted music or converting your CDs if you were using an Ipod.....

I have a Zen Sleek Photo 20gb and although its chunky it stores all my music so I get hear all those long-forgotten favourite tracks when its on ramdom. If I'd gone for an Ipod would only gotten a fraction of the storage space.

Only downside is the lack of accessories......

Dexy

iPod for me. What people always overlook is their resale value.



Resale value? The iRiver H340 I bought back in 2004 still fetches well over £200 on eBay - In fact it's worth more than a brand new 5th gen 80gig iPod. Even the LCD remotes fetch a further £40-50 these days.

If i'd bought an iPod in 2004 I'd surely now struggle to shift it for even £80 :whistling:

I've got an ipod mini, shuffle and a creative MuVo. Granted these are all old tech now but they wern't when I got them.

I voted ipod because I've had no problems with either ipod, while the creative has given me problems. As for quality and style both have street cred if that's important... as for sound quality, well that really hard to comment on due to bit rates, commpression, headphones and your own personal hearing!!! I thought all 3 have had excelent sound quality.

For me what is more important is buying the one you really want and defineing 'the one you really want' will be different for us all.

What I do know is, in the past I have I bought things because they were cheeper etc and spent the whole life of that product wishing I'd gone for my original choice. I've done it with shoes, cars video player, all sorts but I've learnt my lesson... get the one you want.

Original Poster

can you use the Zen as a "portable" hard drive ?? as in plug and play - no software needed ??

this would be an added advantage ! ??

Check out this 30 gig in blue 76 bucks!!!!!!!


amazon.co.uk/Cre…049

Possible price error - who knows - get in there!!!1

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phatbhoy

Check out this 30 gig in blue 76 … Check out this 30 gig in blue 76 bucks!!!!!!!]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-ZEN...343715-8959049Possible price error - who knows - get in there!!!1



i appreciate your advise but are you going to continue to spam the boards by posting this link in EVERY thread available Regarding Zen's ???

as iv sed in all your other posts, im not keen on buyin from market place

phatbhoy

Check out this 30 gig in blue 76 … Check out this 30 gig in blue 76 bucks!!!!!!!]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-ZEN...343715-8959049Possible price error - who knows - get in there!!!1



I agree with Big A about Market Place.
Also, that link is dead. :-( Are YOU the seller?

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dinosteveus

I agree with Big A about Market Place.Also, that link is dead. :-( Are … I agree with Big A about Market Place.Also, that link is dead. :-( Are YOU the seller?



i think its tryin to point to here >> ]http//ww…848

ps steve, u had any dealing with market place sellers selling at low prices ???

big_anth

i appreciate your advise but are you going to continue to spam the boards … i appreciate your advise but are you going to continue to spam the boards by posting this link in EVERY thread available Regarding Zen's ???as iv sed in all your other posts, im not keen on buyin from market place



There are three main threads regarding the zen vision m - all of which i read with interest as I want to buy one.

Surely anyone with an interest in buying one would like to know about the opertunity to buy one for this unbelievable price. - Sorry but I thought that was in the spirit of this site.

I think you are out of order to accuse me of spamming the site - can someone else back me up on this? all I wanted to do was spread the word before the deal got pulled.

However I note that you have taken the time to post after me on every thread - just to be negative - now I ask who is the spammer?

Maybe before wasting peoples time and using up thread space asking about what an mp3 player can do, you could be bothered to look it up your self. Or are you to busy rubbishing other posters on this site?

big_anth

i think its tryin to point to here … i think its tryin to point to here >> ]http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B000EU8D32/ref=s9_asin_image_1/202-8882347-5299848ps steve, u had any dealing with market place sellers selling at low prices ???


I bought a Kettle from one and it took nearly two weeks to arrive.
I have bought other things, I think it's a glorified ebay with hard to find help when things go wrong.
I wouldn't use one again.

Original Poster

phatbhoy

There are three main threads regarding the zen vision m - all of which i … There are three main threads regarding the zen vision m - all of which i read with interest as I want to buy one.Surely anyone with an interest in buying one would like to know about the opertunity to buy one for this unbelievable price. - Sorry but I thought that was in the spirit of this site.I think you are out of order to accuse me of spamming the site - can someone else back me up on this? all I wanted to do was spread the word before the deal got pulled.However I note that you have taken the time to post after me on every thread - just to be negative - now I ask who is the spammer?Maybe before wasting peoples time and using up thread space asking about what an mp3 player can do, you could be bothered to look it up your self. Or are you to busy rubbishing other posters on this site?



fair doo's

but.... it was a market place seller, maybes a mod can correct me here BUT i think market place deals are banned here ???? might be wrong tho

iv posted after you the threads as i look in every thread and have a read !! plus im also interested in an MP3 player (hence this thread started by me !!!)

but when you posting links that dont even work ????? what can i say..

dinosteveus

I agree with Big A about Market Place.Also, that link is dead. :-( Are … I agree with Big A about Market Place.Also, that link is dead. :-( Are YOU the seller?



You agree but fail to explain why - I have used market place loads of times and never had a problem.

No I am not the seller - such cynicism.

However suit yerself.

And sometimes links go down - deals get pulled - you know with that kind of attitude I think what is the point....


Such negativity.

Original Poster

dinosteveus

I bought a Kettle from one and it took nearly two weeks to arrive.I have … I bought a Kettle from one and it took nearly two weeks to arrive.I have bought other things, I think it's a glorified ebay with hard to find help when things go wrong.I wouldn't use one again.



thanks for that steve, iv never fancied buying from them myself as like you said, if anything goes wrong where do you turn !!

Yes, MP deals are banned on HUKD, same as ebay links.
The seller on MP only has a feedback of 4 and their name is the same as someone on ebay:-
extremepcscouk

Original Poster

phatbhoy

Such negativity.



im a negative person then

have fun buying that zen :whistling:

phatbhoy

You agree but fail to explain why - I have used market place loads of … You agree but fail to explain why - I have used market place loads of times and never had a problem.No I am not the seller - such cynicism. However suit yerself.And sometimes links go down - deals get pulled - you know with that kind of attitude I think what is the point....Such negativity.


Sorry I should have explained in that post. :oops:
I'm only 'negative' because it's a MP deal.

Original Poster

dinosteveus

Yes, MP deals are banned on HUKD, same as ebay links.The seller on MP … Yes, MP deals are banned on HUKD, same as ebay links.The seller on MP only has a feedback of 4 and their name is the same as someone on ebay:-extremepcscouk



**cough, cough

Thanks for clarifying that Steve

I have an ipod video but did consider the creative zen. However after watching a few videos on the ipod I've got bored of the small screen and having to convert files. I think the main problem though is small screens, the Zen has the same problem.
For a portable video player you really need a bigger screen. I would consider an Archos if that is the case. If you just want the player for music then thats fine.

Original Poster

With 66.67% of the votes the Zen won the battle !!! haha

i decided to bite the bullet and order one !

ordered 2night from amazon (real amazon and not MP) for £155 (had the £10 off voucher from this site that i won during christmas !!)

i paid the £7 though to get it faster !!

thanks for every who replied to offer there opinions !!
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