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Hi, I have a 3 year old Pug who has breathing problems when he gets over excited causing him to go limp for a few seconds but seems fine afterwards. I took him to a vet who informed me he needs an ESP (elongated soft palate) surgery but also informed

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Found 17th Oct 2014
The vet also informed this could cost north of £2000. I have tried to ring around surgeries to get another quote for this treatment but they say that they cant as they can only quote a referral by a vet. Does anyone know dog surgeries who will give quotes to dog owners
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TDog123

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Sorry, it seems to have cut half of question off. The vet also informed this could cost north of £2000. I have tried to ring around surgeries to get another quote for this treatment but they say that they cant as they can only quote a referral by a vet. Does anyone know dog surgeries who will give quotes to dog owners ?
Might be a long short but have you tried the PDSA ?
I don't qualify for discounted or free treatment. They informed me even if I was in receipt of benefit this treatment would almost certainly be refused as they have done so in the past. Its not really that am unwilling to pay I just want to know am getting the best price. Once aftercare costs are put on top of surgery costs am slightly worried it could spiral out of control.
Edited by: "TDog123" 17th Oct 2014
kester76

Might be a long short but have you tried the PDSA ?


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Is he Insured?
y2rotstar

Is he Insured?


Yes, but this is down as a pre-existing condition, Unfortunately. In terms and conditions of policy not covered.
Not sure if the dog has a passport but try giving a thought to getting it done in a place outside uk like India. or at least get some quotes. You might get much cheaper quotes and have holiday as well in same cost. Don't think the quality will be bad or something. . Give it a thought.
ruc

Not sure if the dog has a passport but try giving a thought to getting it … Not sure if the dog has a passport but try giving a thought to getting it done in a place outside uk like India. or at least get some quotes. You might get much cheaper quotes and have holiday as well in same cost. Don't think the quality will be bad or something. . Give it a thought.


Not keen on flying him in his condition and it would most probably be a legal minefield if complications occur before, during or after surgery to seek redress. Don't mind travelling anywhere else in the UK, though.
TDog123

Not keen on flying him in his condition and it would most probably be a … Not keen on flying him in his condition and it would most probably be a legal minefield if complications occur before, during or after surgery to seek redress. Don't mind travelling anywhere else in the UK, though.



With something like this that's causing breathing problems flying is a big no no.
Do you have a good relationship with your vet? If you do I would go ahead with it but maybe ask them about what sort of payment plans they can offer you if the costs go above what you're currently expecting. An alternative would be to phone local vet practices and explain that you're wanting to price surgery that has been recommended and if you brought your dog in for a consultation would they quote you then and maybe offer a free or discounted consultation fee as you would potentially be spending a lot of money with them.
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sparky111091

With something like this that's causing breathing problems flying is a … With something like this that's causing breathing problems flying is a big no no. Do you have a good relationship with your vet? If you do I would go ahead with it but maybe ask them about what sort of payment plans they can offer you if the costs go above what you're currently expecting. An alternative would be to phone local vet practices and explain that you're wanting to price surgery that has been recommended and if you brought your dog in for a consultation would they quote you then and maybe offer a free or discounted consultation fee as you would potentially be spending a lot of money with them.


I haven't found one local practice that carries out this surgery onsite, they all say we can do a consultation and confirm but even if its as I suspect they will need to refer me to a more advanced hospital/facility and its them that give instruction on the quote. Given that there are only 2 of these facilities that accommodate this procedure nearby it will almost certainly be the same place that give my vet the original quote. So my only option maybe to look further a field or bite the bullet. Sounds like a bit of a monopoly to me.
TDog123

I haven't found one local practice that carries out this surgery onsite, … I haven't found one local practice that carries out this surgery onsite, they all say we can do a consultation and confirm but even if its as I suspect they will need to refer me to a more advanced hospital/facility and its them that give instruction on the quote. Given that there are only 2 of these facilities that accommodate this procedure nearby it will almost certainly be the same place that give my vet the original quote. So my only option maybe to look further a field or bite the bullet. Sounds like a bit of a monopoly to me.



Ah ok, I didn't realise how specialised the surgery would be, you would probably find there wouldn't be much variation in price from the two hospitals. I hope you manage to get something sorted and best of luck to your wee dog, ours was in for surgery this time last year and its a worrying time.
Poor little thing! Why do puppy farms breed them like this? My cousins Shiatsu had same thing.
espirit77

Poor little thing! Why do puppy farms breed them like this? My cousins … Poor little thing! Why do puppy farms breed them like this? My cousins Shiatsu had same thing.



because ppl will buy them no customers no puppy farms
mattmerch

because ppl will buy them no customers no puppy farms



My cousins was a rescue animal btw. Guess they could tell it had come from a farm though, not sure how.
sorry to hear about your boys problems,you could join petsforum.co.uk (sorry I,m clueless about links) loads of good advice on this website.
Edited by: "shazzashops" 17th Oct 2014
What about calling the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons? Or have I just made them up?
See if they can offer some information or maybe they'll do the procedure.
Good luck.
You could try Calder Vets.

They have a hospital in Dewsbury which does surgeries on site. The aftercare i received for my dog was excellent when she started having seizures and after that i switched all of our dogs to their surgery. Find they don't rip you off or pressure you into unnecessary procedures either.
espirit77

Poor little thing! Why do puppy farms breed them like this? My cousins … Poor little thing! Why do puppy farms breed them like this? My cousins Shiatsu had same thing.


I wasnt going to bring that up but that is the exact problem. There is demand for ugly dogs like pugs, bulldogs, boxers etc so breeders go all out to breed the ones with the shortest snouts which is whats causes such an increase in dogs with breathing problems.
joey1352

You could try Calder Vets.They have a hospital in Dewsbury which does … You could try Calder Vets.They have a hospital in Dewsbury which does surgeries on site. The aftercare i received for my dog was excellent when she started having seizures and after that i switched all of our dogs to their surgery. Find they don't rip you off or pressure you into unnecessary procedures either.


Thanks, I will try this practice and fingers crossed they will talk figures with me. If not I will get my vet to send a referral. The problem that keeps arising is the surgeons seem unwilling to give me a figure until they themselves examine him but this isn't cheap and there is no guarantee their going to be cheaper than the quote I already have. If they were to say, if what am telling them is correct then it will be x amount and x amount is £1500 or lower, then I would be more willing to take him as its worth the risk. In my opinion they should do the initial consultation for free or a minimal set fee as they make enough from the surgery, this would encourage more transparency and competition but maybe that's what their afraid of !
craigstephens

I wasnt going to bring that up but that is the exact problem. There is … I wasnt going to bring that up but that is the exact problem. There is demand for ugly dogs like pugs, bulldogs, boxers etc so breeders go all out to breed the ones with the shortest snouts which is whats causes such an increase in dogs with breathing problems.



horrible. they'll be breeding humans to look a certain way next.
espirit77

horrible. they'll be breeding humans to look a certain way next.


Yeah, no more fat ugly birds.
Calder vets gets a good write up.
Thanks for the responses, Much appreciated
TDog123

Thanks for the responses, Much appreciated

Let us know what happens hope the surgery goes well regardless of who you pick
dereklogan7

Yeah, no more fat ugly birds.



but then you wouldn't have been born!
espirit77

It's all good clean fun. Where's your Avatar by the way? 8)but then you … It's all good clean fun. Where's your Avatar by the way? 8)but then you wouldn't have been born!

Don't know what happened to my response but you get my jist.
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