Hip Hop - the Best, the Underrated and the Overrated

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Found 31st Aug 2009
I'm bored and my gally is asleep on the sofa (hectic weekend) so I thought I'd make a thread about the Hip Hop.

Greatest of all time = Big L
Most overrated = Tupac
Most underrated = AZ, Cormega or Canibus
Best DJ = DJ Premier
Best producer = DJ Premier

Opinions......

*Please no hate ITT*

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only one i heard of out of above is tupac and canibus!!! :oops:

Jurassic 5 are pretty good

im a fan 2pac tho

youtube.com/wat…9wE

Best DJ = cliché i know but grandmaster flash STILL for me

Common...end of!

okay i agree with tupac being the most overrated.

Can i ask who big L is?

Lefty;6173276

Common...end of!



he's done NOTHING had a bit of beef with westside connection THATS it

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black gerbil1;6173256

Jurassic 5 are pretty goodim a fan 2pac … Jurassic 5 are pretty goodim a fan 2pac thohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdjYWm_Y9wE


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I like Jurassic 5. I've got a lot of people who said they hate Hip Hop etc to like Hip Hop by hitting them with some Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, Blu & Exile etc. tunes.

I don't dislike Tupac I just don't think he's as good as lot of people claim he is. He has become more famous since his death.[/COLOR]

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scotland88;6173264

Best DJ = cliché i know but grandmaster flash STILL for me



[COLOR="Red"]I don't mind him as a DJ but I can't stand Sugar Hill Gang etc.[/COLOR]

People who say they dont like tupac has only heard his comercial stuff

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Lefty;6173276

Common...end of!



[COLOR="Red"]I am a fan of Common but I find a lot of his songs a bit repetitive.

He's good to listen to when you want to chill out though.[/COLOR]

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Tinkytayls;6173361

People who say they dont like tupac has only heard his comercial stuff



[COLOR="Red"]I've heard pretty much all his stuff.[/COLOR]

The JFK;6173349

[COLOR="Red"]I don't mind him as a DJ but I can't stand Sugar Hill Gang … [COLOR="Red"]I don't mind him as a DJ but I can't stand Sugar Hill Gang etc.[/COLOR]



im purely talking about his DJ skills mate, saw him in glasgow in April, he was ment to finish at 1am but carried on till 3am was an epic night !

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s_paul;6173283

okay i agree with tupac being the most overrated.Can i ask who big L is?



[COLOR="Red"]Big L is the greatest rapper of all time.

He has maaaaad flows and dope lyrics.

youtube.com/wat…fvw

youtube.com/wat…JL0

youtube.com/wat…aNc

^^That tune has some many lyrics that make you go 'whoaaaaah!!!'^^[/COLOR]

The JFK;6173413

[COLOR="Red"]Big L is the greatest rapper of all time.He has maaaaad … [COLOR="Red"]Big L is the greatest rapper of all time.He has maaaaad flows and dope lyrics.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBrzEVJwYFg&feature=fvwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYfKMIdoJL0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybE-nYJZaNc^^That tune has some many lyrics that make you go 'whoaaaaah!!!'^^[/COLOR]



Thankyou JFK - will have a listen. Rep left for taking the time to get those links

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scotland88;6173387

im purely talking about his DJ skills mate, saw him in glasgow in April, … im purely talking about his DJ skills mate, saw him in glasgow in April, he was ment to finish at 1am but carried on till 3am was an epic night !


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Sounds sick.

You know of any good Hip Hop concerts coming up?[/COLOR]

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s_paul;6173443

Thankyou JFK - will have a listen. Rep left for taking the time to get … Thankyou JFK - will have a listen. Rep left for taking the time to get those links



[COLOR="Red"]No probs.

Let me know what you think.

He only made 2 albums before he died but IMO ever tune he has ever made is first class. I don't think I've even heard a messy bar by L.[/COLOR]

The JFK;6173448

[COLOR="Red"]Sounds sick.You know of any good Hip Hop concerts coming … [COLOR="Red"]Sounds sick.You know of any good Hip Hop concerts coming up?[/COLOR]



not for the rest of the year mate! unless you wanna see Tinchy stryder lil wayne or dizzee rascal.

Although Rick Ross is playing greenwich this month but thats about it mate tbh!

mod

De La Soul - still the best

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scotland88;6173477

not for the rest of the year mate! unless you wanna see Tinchy stryder … not for the rest of the year mate! unless you wanna see Tinchy stryder lil wayne or dizzee rascal.Although Rick Ross is playing greenwich this month but thats about it mate tbh!



[COLOR="Red"]LOL I can't stand Tinchy Stryder or Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne has just become the new Fiddy. When I first heard Wayne way back in 2001 (I think) I thought he had potential and could become a Hip Hop legend but he's just gone so commercial and now he's only interested in making money.

I don't mind Dizzee but I wouldn't go and see him in concert. [/COLOR]

The JFK;6173507

[COLOR="Red"]LOL I can't stand Tinchy Stryder or Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne has … [COLOR="Red"]LOL I can't stand Tinchy Stryder or Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne has just become the new Fiddy. When I first heard Wayne way back in 2001 (I think) I thought he had potential and could become a Hip Hop legend but he's just gone so commercial and now he's only interested in making money. I don't mind Dizzee but I wouldn't go and see him in concert. [/COLOR]



a dont mind lil wayne mix tapes! always got a few SURPRISINGLY good songs on them! The mainstream albums are terrible. Hate tinchy and dizzee tbh, Dizzee especially, he tries to be underground grime but is to commercial,

The JFK;6173468

[COLOR="Red"]No probs.Let me know what you think.He only made 2 albums … [COLOR="Red"]No probs.Let me know what you think.He only made 2 albums before he died but IMO ever tune he has ever made is first class. I don't think I've even heard a messy bar by L.[/COLOR]



Had a listen to two of the tracks (from your links) and he has got good stuff.
Before today id never heard of him or his music.

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andywedge;6173492

De La Soul - still the best


[COLOR="Red"]
I like De La Soul a lot.

I was listening to them in my car today along with KRS-One.[/COLOR]

most overated diddy or whatever he's calling himself these days

puffy

fiddy

dont know and dont care. Cant stand him

I also agree de la soul are good and any thing from 87.88.89 was awesome then hip hop died

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jamstaruk1972;6173532

best eric b and … best eric b and rakim,nashttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaylLOq6gEunderated epmd,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSxSu8FPxw



[COLOR="Red"]Nas = most consistent.

Every album he's dropped has been dope with Illmatic being one of the greatest albums of all time.
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jamstaruk1972;6173543

most overated diddy or whatever he's calling himself these days


[COLOR="Red"]
He had one good tune - Victory - but everything else he has dropped has been wack. I wouldn't say he's the most overrated though as I don't think that many people rate him in the first place.[/COLOR]

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Iain123;6173578

I also agree de la soul are good and any thing from 87.88.89 was awesome … I also agree de la soul are good and any thing from 87.88.89 was awesome then hip hop died



[COLOR="Red"]IMO Hip Hop was at its prime in the mid 90s.[/COLOR]

Outkast old stuff was good, cant remember the songs tho, this was back in the day

old skool rules i used to be right into it , but now at 37 and a dad to a year son listening to nwa's **** the police in the car doesnt seem a good idea lol

got about 200 albums but havent bought 1 in years mainly because there isnt anythng really good out ther

download or buy these

36 Chambers Wu Tang Clan
Paid In Full Eric B & Rakim -Platinum
KRS ONE's 1st 4 LP's
The Chronic Dr. Dre
Low End Theory Tribe Called Quest
No One Can Do it Better D.O.C
Stright Outta Compton NWA
2Pacalipse Now 2Pac
Ready to Die Notorious BIG
Illmatic Nas
The Infamous Mobb Deep
Hell on Earth Mobb Deep
Doe or Die AZ -Gold
We Can't Be Stopped Geto Boys
Thug Life 2 Pac

Get all of Big L's Albums .
Bone Thugs N Harmony's 1st 3 Lp's,
Americaz Nightmare Spice 1
187 He Wrote Spice 1
Me Agaist the World 2Pac
Wicked Way'z Mr. Mike
Life After Death Notorious BIG
It was Written .
The Score Fugees
All Eyez on Me 2 Pac
Makavelli 7 day Theory 2Pac
Only 4 Built Cuban Linx Raekwon
Meth-Tical Method Man
Ironman Ghostface Killa
Wu Tang Forever Wu Tang Clan
Born To Mack Too $hort
$hort Dog's in tha house Too $hort
Life is Too $hort Too $hort
Cocktails Too $hort
Gettin It "Album #10 Too $hort
Tha Playa Years Too $hort
SouthernPlayalistics Outkast
EPMD's 1st 3 Lp's.
Das EFX Greatest Hits (1998) Das EFX Their 1st 2 or 3 albums were amazing
Mailman - E-40
Dog Food - Dogg Pound Snoop, Daz & Kurupt
Music to Drive-by Compton's Most Wanted

black gerbil1;6173679

Outkast old stuff was good, cant remember the songs tho, this was back in … Outkast old stuff was good, cant remember the songs tho, this was back in the day



SouthernPlayalistics was quality:thumbsup:

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[COLOR="Red"]Already got most of those albums. A lot of very good albums in that list, Jamstar[/COLOR]

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jamstaruk1972;6173699

SouthernPlayalistics was quality:thumbsup:



[COLOR="Red"]^^This^^[/COLOR]

The JFK;6173703

[COLOR="Red"]Already got most of those albums. A lot of very good albums … [COLOR="Red"]Already got most of those albums. A lot of very good albums in that list, Jamstar[/COLOR]



too right there is mainley posted it for people maybe just getting into old school

if anyone can recomend some new kids on the block i'll give them a listen

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jamstaruk1972;6173714

too right there is mainley posted it for people maybe just getting into … too right there is mainley posted it for people maybe just getting into old schoolif anyone can recomend some new kids on the block i'll give them a listen



[COLOR="Red"]Have a listen to REKS, Blac Poet and Blu&Exile if you haven't already heard any of their tunes.

Also have a listen to Papoose. He's made 20 mixtapes all of them good enough to be albums.[/COLOR]

you shoulda started this thread tues night as im off work wed cant stop watchng some tunes on you tube now and i need to sleep lol

The JFK;6173727

[COLOR="Red"]Have a listen to REKS, Blac Poet and Blu&Exile if you … [COLOR="Red"]Have a listen to REKS, Blac Poet and Blu&Exile if you haven't already heard any of their tunes.Also have a listen to Papoose. He's made 20 mixtapes all of them good enough to be albums.[/COLOR]



cheers :thumbsup:will check them out tomorrow

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jamstaruk1972;6173733

you shoulda started this thread tues night as im off work wed cant stop … you shoulda started this thread tues night as im off work wed cant stop watchng some tunes on you tube now and i need to sleep lol



[COLOR="Red"]LOL, I'm sorry dawg.

I only started this thread as I'm bored and my girlfriend is KO'd on the sofa due to a hectic weekend. [/COLOR]

good thread i'll check out rest of replies when i get in from work

The JFK;6173319

[COLOR="Red"]I don't dislike Tupac I just don't think he's as good as lot … [COLOR="Red"]I don't dislike Tupac I just don't think he's as good as lot of people claim he is. He has become more famous since his death.[/COLOR]



That's a ridiculous comment, Tupac was constantly talked about throughout his life, from being a lyrical genius, to the trails and tribulations of his contraversial gangster hip hop lifestyle, to his surprisingly promising acting career.

Tupac was contstantly talked about on a daily basis while he was alive and the only thing that's happened since his death, is people that were too young to enjoy his music became aware of him but it doesn't mean he became more famous.

Tupac would of been a superstar in every aspect if he was still alive but he's no holds bars lifestyle really meant that eventually, someone was going to come after him sooner rather than later.

Tinkytayls;6173361

People who say they dont like tupac has only heard his comercial stuff



Go on!!!

I'm impressed by that......a lot of people knew about his tunes like California Love, which I didn't rate as highly as his other work but I guess that's how he became much more famous.
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