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Horsebox Outside my house

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Posted 8th Jan
Hi Just looking for some advice. Just before Xmas the neighbors decided to park a horse box outside both our houses. Its not been moved since and blocks the view out of my front window. It also blocks the street lamp so at night my Front garden is pitch black it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off the Drive. Not sure what my options are to be fair
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On the road or off road in their garden?

Under planning laws no one has a right to a 'view'. We regularly have builders from the ajoining street dumping their box vans on our road for days at a time rather than their own street. Annoying but little we can do as they are taxed and insured. Not sure how trailers are classed though.
mdubs08/01/2020 09:15

On the road or off road in their garden?Under planning laws no one has a …On the road or off road in their garden?Under planning laws no one has a right to a 'view'. We regularly have builders from the ajoining street dumping their box vans on our road for days at a time rather than their own street. Annoying but little we can do as they are taxed and insured. Not sure how trailers are classed though.


People really irritate me, so much disrespect for others as long as they are ok...If the same was done to them they would be knocking on your door .
Remove the number plate and phone the relevant authority and tell them its been abandoned
Wait until it moves and park something there.
mdubs08/01/2020 09:15

On the road or off road in their garden?Under planning laws no one has a …On the road or off road in their garden?Under planning laws no one has a right to a 'view'. We regularly have builders from the ajoining street dumping their box vans on our road for days at a time rather than their own street. Annoying but little we can do as they are taxed and insured. Not sure how trailers are classed though.


Its Parked half on the road and half on the pavement. You would struggle to get anything past it on the path so that's one way i could go with it.
joyf453608/01/2020 09:25

Wait until it moves and park something there.


That's my plan however i dont see it being moved anytime soon
Speak to the neighbour but failing that why not torch it? Provided there are no horses inside
toddyj998708/01/2020 09:38

Its Parked half on the road and half on the pavement. You would struggle …Its Parked half on the road and half on the pavement. You would struggle to get anything past it on the path so that's one way i could go with it.


Well tell council you cant push your prams outside and you have to use the road to push your fake twins!
Report it online to your local authority. There should be a section for pavement/road obstruction. You may have to open an account unless you already have, but the report is anonymous.
"Blocks the street lamp...."
Must be a real tall horse box! Talk with your neighbour about it.
Have you talked to your neighbour about it yet and if so what did they say?
Lets be sensible here. We all have no idea what the OP's relationship is with their neighbour and how a conversation would go. They might be one of "those" type of neighbours who do their 'thing' regardless of what others might think and don't care a jot. Just watch "Neighbours From Hell" to get an idea. This week's Ep happened to feature a "parking" dispute...

Do you think you could approach this neighbour, toddyj9987? What sort of response would you expect? I know a lot of the time you would get a polite "doorstep" patter - then once you are gone you are "him next door." Then, nothing will happen. I have a particularly nasty-tempered neighbour like that.

Some times, a nonchalant approach can work. Just happen to 'catch' your neighbour whilst putting a bin out or similar and pass the time of day - then just an off-the-cuff remark like "Any chance the horsebox is moving soon? It's a beggar seeing around it when I'm coming out of my drive." Then see what sort of response you get. As it not directly confrontational, it might not seem threatening and at least it's broken the 'icy' subject? At the very least you might get an idea of whether it's a temporary arrangement or there to stay? Let's hope not the latter, eh?

Kind regards, Phsy.
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@toddyj9987
"...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off the Drive. Not sure what my options are to be fair"

Reversing onto your drive sounds a good option.
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toddyj998708/01/2020 09:38

Its Parked half on the road and half on the pavement. You would struggle …Its Parked half on the road and half on the pavement. You would struggle to get anything past it on the path so that's one way i could go with it.


Ring your local council, if it's on the pavement then they have to remove it. A neighbour of mine did this to me last month, parked the same way......you are not allowed to pull boxes / caravans over or on a pavement, (probably laws made to stop travellers parking). They will issue an order to tell the owner to move it or they will. I was given they move date by the council..... it went the night before!
Just give them a ring or email them with the reg.

I will add, it's not a dropped kerb so this is when the enforcement for removal comes into play.
Edited by: "cideristhefuture" 8th Jan
I would think it a better approach to speak to the neighbour if possible before reporting to the council. Hopefully they shift it soon... Keep us updated...
Some people are d h I’m a Postie and see people doing this all the time parking horse boxes or trailers or putting skips outside always in front of neighbours houses so they keep there bit of road free. I’m horrible so I’d get my own back like when i bought super loud hifi and turned all my speakers to neighbours house and when I came in from work at midnight I’d turn it full blast put earplugs in and go to sleep. They had wild parties at weekends all night which is why I did it and within a few months they left. Buy a cheap £100 caravan and park that in front of theirs or something like that.
fanpages08/01/2020 12:08

@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off …@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off the Drive. Not sure what my options are to be fair"Reversing onto your drive sounds a good option.



Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if your on a busy road and I fail to see any reason why folks don't do it.
Edited by: "andynicol" 8th Jan
fanpages08/01/2020 12:08

@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off …@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off the Drive. Not sure what my options are to be fair"Reversing onto your drive sounds a good option.



andynicol08/01/2020 18:14

Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if …Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if your on a busy road and I fail to see any reason why folks don't do it.



Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of their semi-circular drive. This means they can both drive in & drive out again.

Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.

Alternatively, perhaps some choose to park on their drive forwards as they anticipate that the busy road during the (so-called) rush (so-called) hour period in the evening means this is the safest option. Returning to their vehicle after a well-earned rest overnight, they then find the road outside their property is relatively clear of other vehicles & they can reverse back onto the road with a reduced risk of making contact with anything else.

Finally, perhaps some have never really mastered the reversing of a vehicle & would prefer to hit somebody or something the next time their vehicle is used rather than reversing into any member of their family or a part of their property.

Options are good. I was just suggesting the one that suited these conditions.

A secondary option I considered was simply to buy a horse for travel & park that in the available horse box.
fanpages08/01/2020 19:23

Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of …Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of their semi-circular drive. This means they can both drive in & drive out again.Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.Alternatively, perhaps some choose to park on their drive forwards as they anticipate that the busy road during the (so-called) rush (so-called) hour period in the evening means this is the safest option. Returning to their vehicle after a well-earned rest overnight, they then find the road outside their property is relatively clear of other vehicles & they can reverse back onto the road with a reduced risk of making contact with anything else.Finally, perhaps some have never really mastered the reversing of a vehicle & would prefer to hit somebody or something the next time their vehicle is used rather than reversing into any member of their family or a part of their property.Options are good. I was just suggesting the one that suited these conditions.A secondary option I considered was simply to buy a horse for travel & park that in the available horse box.

Highway code says to reverse in and drive out if you can
fanpages08/01/2020 12:08

@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off …@toddyj9987 "...it also massively Restricts my view when reversing off the Drive. Not sure what my options are to be fair"Reversing onto your drive sounds a good option.


andynicol08/01/2020 18:14

Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if …Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if your on a busy road and I fail to see any reason why folks don't do it.


fanpages08/01/2020 19:23

a/ Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends …a/ Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of their semi-circular drive. This means they can both drive in & drive out again. b/ Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing. c/ perhaps some choose to park on their drive forwards as they anticipate that the busy road during the (so-called) rush (so-called) hour period in the evening means this is the safest option. Returning to their vehicle after a well-earned rest overnight, they then find the road outside their property is relatively clear of other vehicles & they can reverse back onto the road with a reduced risk of making contact with anything else. d/ perhaps some have never really mastered the reversing of a vehicle & would prefer to hit somebody or something the next time their vehicle is used rather than reversing into any member of their family or a part of their property.Options are good. I was just suggesting the one that suited these conditions. e/ A secondary option I considered was simply to buy a horse for travel & park that in the available horse box.



a/ then this isn't an issue, drive in, drive out.

b/ most chauffeur driven passengers residences would have a big enough driveway/entrance to enable said driver to turn the vehicle prior to the next trip, alternatively, if entrance was too small to allow the vehicle to be turned within, said driver would reverse out with a banksman, and any professional should do this IMO, turn the vehicle in advance of the next trip.

c/ approaching your driveway, you have right of way, provided you give adequate signal(s) then vehicles behind you must wait for you to finish your manoeuvre,

d/ that is simply a scary thought that someone unable to reverse would rather reverse into traffic instead of there own property, and would rather hit moving vehicles and/or pedestrians.

e/ ride in or back in though
Edited by: "andynicol" 8th Jan
fanpages08/01/2020 19:23

Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of …Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of their semi-circular drive. This means they can both drive in & drive out again.Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.Alternatively, perhaps some choose to park on their drive forwards as they anticipate that the busy road during the (so-called) rush (so-called) hour period in the evening means this is the safest option. Returning to their vehicle after a well-earned rest overnight, they then find the road outside their property is relatively clear of other vehicles & they can reverse back onto the road with a reduced risk of making contact with anything else.Finally, perhaps some have never really mastered the reversing of a vehicle & would prefer to hit somebody or something the next time their vehicle is used rather than reversing into any member of their family or a part of their property.Options are good. I was just suggesting the one that suited these conditions.A secondary option I considered was simply to buy a horse for travel & park that in the available horse box.



MIDURIX08/01/2020 20:13

Highway code says to reverse in and drive out if you can



Yes, I know. The "if you can" phrasing is the notable part of the rule.

That could mean "if a horsebox is not in your way" or "if your test examiner let you pass even though you have poor reversing skills".

The classification of the road onto which you are reversing is also a consideration.
fanpages08/01/2020 19:23

Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of …Perhaps some folks have an 'in' gate & an 'out' gate at opposing ends of their semi-circular drive. This means they can both drive in & drive out again.Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.Alternatively, perhaps some choose to park on their drive forwards as they anticipate that the busy road during the (so-called) rush (so-called) hour period in the evening means this is the safest option. Returning to their vehicle after a well-earned rest overnight, they then find the road outside their property is relatively clear of other vehicles & they can reverse back onto the road with a reduced risk of making contact with anything else.Finally, perhaps some have never really mastered the reversing of a vehicle & would prefer to hit somebody or something the next time their vehicle is used rather than reversing into any member of their family or a part of their property.Options are good. I was just suggesting the one that suited these conditions.A secondary option I considered was simply to buy a horse for travel & park that in the available horse box.



andynicol08/01/2020 21:25

a/ then this isn't an issue, drive in, drive out.b/ most chauffeur driven …a/ then this isn't an issue, drive in, drive out.b/ most chauffeur driven passengers residences would have a big enough driveway/entrance to enable said driver to turn the vehicle prior to the next trip, alternatively, if entrance was too small to allow the vehicle to be turned within, said driver would reverse out with a banksman, and any professional should do this IMO, turn the vehicle in advance of the next trip.c/ approaching your driveway, you have right of way, provided you give adequate signal(s) then vehicles behind you must wait for you to finish your manoeuvre,d/ that is simply a scary thought that someone unable to reverse would rather reverse into traffic instead of there own property, and would rather hit moving vehicles and/or pedestrians.e/ ride in or back in though


b) Chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives. Some may not own a car & employ the services of a driver.

Summary: The suggestion I made (within ny first reply in this thread) is still a good option. I am glad you agree.
ncd08/01/2020 21:51

Simple answer if they keep doing it : …Simple answer if they keep doing it : https://www.eta.co.uk/2018/01/10/catclaw-tackles-illegal-and-dangerous-pavement-parking-by-bursting-car-tyre/



The horsebox may then be there for a longer duration & result in the outcome of situational irony.
fanpages08/01/2020 22:09

b) Chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives. Some may not …b) Chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives. Some may not own a car & employ the services of a driver. Summary: The suggestion I made (within ny first reply in this thread) is still a good option. I am glad you agree.



fanpages08/01/2020 22:02

Yes, I know. The "if you can" phrasing is the notable part of the …Yes, I know. The "if you can" phrasing is the notable part of the rule.That could mean "if a horsebox is not in your way" or "if your test examiner let you pass even though you have poor reversing skills".The classification of the road onto which you are reversing is also a consideration.



You seem to disagree with yourself ;

In reference to those who drive into there driveway, you said 'Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.'

You now say, 'Chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives. Some may not own a car & employ the services of a driver.'

Anyhow, your sweeping statement that 'chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives' is false.
andynicol08/01/2020 22:38

You seem to disagree with yourself ;In reference to those who drive into …You seem to disagree with yourself ;In reference to those who drive into there driveway, you said 'Perhaps some have a chauffeur that after escorting the vehicle's occupants to the door the vehicle is then parked without the owner's knowledge of what point of the compass the driver is facing.'You now say, 'Chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives. Some may not own a car & employ the services of a driver.'Anyhow, your sweeping statement that 'chauffeurs are used by people that do not have drives' is false.


It was not a sweeping statement & is not a false one either.

There is also no contradiction above or disagreement in my statements.

Try harder; learn to read what is there, rather than reaching for something to argue about.
andynicol08/01/2020 18:14

Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if …Reversing into your own drive is always the easiest option, especially if your on a busy road and I fail to see any reason why folks don't do it.


Some people are just terrible drivers. Should be an offence to reverse out of driveways especially on main roads
Possible Highway code contraventions


Rule 242

You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.



Rule 250

Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 2500 kg laden weight, invalid carriages, motorcycles and pedal cycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) or less if they are:

  • at least 10 metres (32 feet) away from any junction, close to the kerb and facing in the direction of the traffic flow
  • in a recognised parking place or lay-by.

Other vehicles and trailers, and all vehicles with projecting loads, MUST NOT be left on a road at night without lights.
Thanks for the advice and some people have waaaay to much time on there hands with some of the comments made
toddyj998709/01/2020 08:52

Thanks for the advice and some people have waaaay to much time on there …Thanks for the advice and some people have waaaay to much time on there hands with some of the comments made


You opened a can of worms with this thread
Alexandralocks09/01/2020 09:42

You opened a can of worms with this thread

Tell me about it was only hoping people would tell me if they had similar experiences and how they dealt with it. Ah well its provided advice and some entertainment
toddyj998709/01/2020 09:46

Tell me about it was only hoping people would tell me if they had similar …Tell me about it was only hoping people would tell me if they had similar experiences and how they dealt with it. Ah well its provided advice and some entertainment


I know it sort of went off topic, So you didn't really spill. Is this a neighbour your able to talk to or you just going to sit patiently till they decide to move it.. ?
What you can do about the nuisance value is very much dependent on your local authority.

But before you do that, why not just ask them nicely to move it?
Alexandralocks09/01/2020 09:49

I know it sort of went off topic, So you didn't really spill. Is this a …I know it sort of went off topic, So you didn't really spill. Is this a neighbour your able to talk to or you just going to sit patiently till they decide to move it.. ?

I will be speaking to them this weekend hopefully. Unfortunately with work and other commitments just not seen them or its to late to go round. Then again my father in law is round tomorrow so could beat me to it and probably wont be as polite.
toddyj998709/01/2020 10:12

I will be speaking to them this weekend hopefully. Unfortunately with work …I will be speaking to them this weekend hopefully. Unfortunately with work and other commitments just not seen them or its to late to go round. Then again my father in law is round tomorrow so could beat me to it and probably wont be as polite.


Ahh Hope you get it sorted and they move it without all the added drama
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