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    my house alarm which we have never used and was in house when brought is beeping at me that the battery is low in dining room.

    is there some type of bettery in the little sensor thingy? can i replace it without alarm sounding easily? i have no clue

    any ideas or help appreciated

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    are you talking about a smoke alarm or a burglar alarm?

    or a carbon monoxide alarm?

    Original Poster

    oh sorry burglar alarm

    if the burglar alarm is beeping it normally means that it has been activated.

    they don't operate on batteries but through the mains unless you lost power to your house for a while when the sounder backup battery is drained?

    Original Poster

    it says the sensor in dining room has a low battery. does the front of thst pull off?

    mrsbargainhunter2011

    it says the sensor in dining room has a low battery. does the front of … it says the sensor in dining room has a low battery. does the front of thst pull off?



    it is odd that it uses battery. i have not come across a sensor that uses battery for a burglar alarm as the burglar could just remove the battery????

    may be someone else who has come across this mickey mouse type of alarm can help. personally i would remove the whole thing if it operates on batteries!

    Original Poster

    only the sensors work on batteries. im wondering if i need to put it in a special mode to remove the battery. if the main unit wasnt wired in to the mains i would of thrown it away lol. sounds like its going to cost me money now :-(

    thanks for responding anyway

    The passive infra red sensor (P.I.R.) uses a PP3 9volt battery ( the rectangular one).
    Make sure the alarm is in standby I.e. is not set, otherwise it will go off if the cover is removed.
    There should be small screw on the lower front side if the sensor or a clip that can be held in to allow the cover to be removed. When the cover is removed, the alarm may indicate a tamper alarm, because the front if the sensor has been removed. Once the battery has been replaced, re-fit the cover, making sure it fits tightly (like when it was removed) otherwise the tamper alarm will remain.
    Now the main panel will see that the battery power in the pair is good.
    There is a chance that the sensor will need to re-programmed into the main panel because the power was removed from the sensor, but this is only a maybe.

    Hope this helps

    Russ

    does it actually say low battery? how do you know that the beep is an indicator that the battery is low?

    if it is the battery, you could try googling as you may set off the alarm if you just open the sensor in the dining room.

    Original Poster

    thanks russ. i will head out tomorrow to find a battery.

    yes it says low battery in dining room.

    russ17

    The passive infra red sensor (P.I.R.) uses a PP3 9volt battery ( the … The passive infra red sensor (P.I.R.) uses a PP3 9volt battery ( the rectangular one).Make sure the alarm is in standby I.e. is not set, otherwise it will go off if the cover is removed.There should be small screw on the lower front side if the sensor or a clip that can be held in to allow the cover to be removed. When the cover is removed, the alarm may indicate a tamper alarm, because the front if the sensor has been removed. Once the battery has been replaced, re-fit the cover, making sure it fits tightly (like when it was removed) otherwise the tamper alarm will remain.Now the main panel will see that the battery power in the pair is good.There is a chance that the sensor will need to re-programmed into the main panel because the power was removed from the sensor, but this is only a maybe.Hope this helpsRuss


    Have I missed something , I haven`t seen the make of alarm . My Yale sensors takes 3 aaa`s

    "it is odd that it uses battery. i have not come across a sensor that uses battery for a burglar alarm as the burglar could just remove the battery????

    may be someone else who has come across this mickey mouse type of alarm can help. personally i would remove the whole thing if it operates on batteries!"

    WHAT ? I sometimes cannot believe the advice some folk give out on here !

    Most wireless home alarms have wireless sensors and naturally you have to put batteries in them , [that's why there wireless].
    So,there not mickey mouse types of alarms . Most modern alarms are like this . Even the control boxes have batteries inside them for backup if the mains goes off.
    So, the control panel is letting you know that the battery in the sensor needs changing.

    Original Poster

    so hubbys home he pulled it off i was too scared to its a cr123a battery hopefully i can finally stop the beeping. thanks everyone for your responses xx

    Beat me to it!

    Well done and good luck

    Russ

    Original Poster

    good morning!! its beeping at me again :-( no saying tamper alarm dini g room is this what you meant before ?

    russ17

    The passive infra red sensor (P.I.R.) uses a PP3 9volt battery ( the … The passive infra red sensor (P.I.R.) uses a PP3 9volt battery ( the rectangular one).Make sure the alarm is in standby I.e. is not set, otherwise it will go off if the cover is removed.There should be small screw on the lower front side if the sensor or a clip that can be held in to allow the cover to be removed. When the cover is removed, the alarm may indicate a tamper alarm, because the front if the sensor has been removed. Once the battery has been replaced, re-fit the cover, making sure it fits tightly (like when it was removed) otherwise the tamper alarm will remain.Now the main panel will see that the battery power in the pair is good.There is a chance that the sensor will need to re-programmed into the main panel because the power was removed from the sensor, but this is only a maybe.Hope this helpsRuss



    good morning.

    its beeping at me again :-( now saying tamper alarm dining room is this what you meant russ? how can i stop this hope you can help its driving me crazy beep beep lol

    If you don't use it, take the batteries out

    Original Poster

    the main alarm is wired into the mains so dont think that would work

    mrsbargainhunter2011

    the main alarm is wired into the mains so dont think that would work


    out of interest, why dont you use the alarm? Make sure you dont declare you have one on insurance applications if you dont use it.

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    chocci

    out of interest, why dont you use the alarm? Make sure you dont declare … out of interest, why dont you use the alarm? Make sure you dont declare you have one on insurance applications if you dont use it.

    ah, the all knowing Chocci has decided to share there wisdom!

    Original Poster

    no its not declared. we have a dog so i have noidea how that would work wouldbt the dog let it off?

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    If this is as I suspect a wireless alarm, simply removing the battery's will not work as the main control panel talks to each of the sensors and receives information back like battery voltage. The only way to stop it bleeping would be to remove the sensor from the control panel, this would require knowledge of how to program the control panel and of course the engineers code. It would probably be cheaper and quicker just to put a new battery in the sensor, most sensors have a non volatile memory, which basically means as long as the battery is replaces within a few mintes of the old battery being removed, you shouldn't need to re program the sensor, however it is worth noting that some of the earlier system will require programming or pairing. As you haven't stated the age and make of the system. I couldn't tell you which one you have.

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    damo1972

    If this is as I suspect a wireless alarm, simply removing the battery's … If this is as I suspect a wireless alarm, simply removing the battery's will not work as the main control panel talks to each of the sensors and receives information back like battery voltage. The only way to stop it bleeping would be to remove the sensor from the control panel, this would require knowledge of how to program the control panel and of course the engineers code. It would probably be cheaper and quicker just to put a new battery in the sensor, most sensors have a non volatile memory, which basically means as long as the battery is replaces within a few mintes of the old battery being removed, you shouldn't need to re program the sensor, however it is worth noting that some of the earlier system will require programming or pairing. As you haven't stated the age and make of the system. I couldn't tell you which one you have.



    hi damo hubby replaced the battery and was fine till this morn when it now is beeping and saying tampered alarm any ideas how to fix it. its a visonic eith wireless sensors ..

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    mrsbargainhunter2011

    hi damo hubby replaced the battery and was fine till this morn when it … hi damo hubby replaced the battery and was fine till this morn when it now is beeping and saying tampered alarm any ideas how to fix it. its a visonic eith wireless sensors ..

    try resetting the alarm, as when you replaced the battery you would have activated the tamper, this should now just reset

    mrsbargainhunter2011

    hi damo hubby replaced the battery and was fine till this morn when it … hi damo hubby replaced the battery and was fine till this morn when it now is beeping and saying tampered alarm any ideas how to fix it. its a visonic eith wireless sensors ..



    once you get the tamper indicator and resetting the alarm does not work it means the next step which unfortunately is paying for the alarm engineer to come round. if this is the case then personally i'd remove the whole thing as every time one of these stupid battery runs out it will cost you to get the engineer out unless you are happy to set up a maintenance contract.

    we had a tamper indicator on ours which would not go away with reset and it costs us £100 for the engineer to reset it as you will find most of them will not reset it but insist on you taking out a year's minimum maintenance contract with them during which time they will reset it for you!

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    mutley1

    once you get the tamper indicator and resetting the alarm does not work … once you get the tamper indicator and resetting the alarm does not work it means the next step which unfortunately is paying for the alarm engineer to come round. if this is the case then personally i'd remove the whole thing as every time one of these stupid battery runs out it will cost you to get the engineer out unless you are happy to set up a maintenance contract.we had a tamper indicator on ours which would not go away with reset and it costs us £100 for the engineer to reset it as you will find most of them will not reset it but insist on you taking out a year's minimum maintenance contract with them during which time they will reset it for you!



    i have no idea how to reset im just listening to the beeping lol

    im not getting an engineer a £100 and all they would do is press a button no doubt :-( they left no instructions or anything when we moved in.
    im hoping it might stop haha Ill have to have another look when the hubby gets home.

    your best bet to reset is to google a user instruction manual for the alarm main control panel which will tell you the buttons to press if there is nothing obvious like a reset button on your control panel that you can press.

    Hi

    Try downloading the instructions

    jclautomation.com/doc…pdf

    There is a good picture showing the front tamper switch (fig 2.) and how to remove the cover (section 3 , picture 6). If the front cover is not fitted correctly, the tamper switch will not be activated and the system will alert you to this with a tamper alarm.

    Good luck

    Original Poster

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    russ17

    HiTry downloading the … HiTry downloading the instructionswww.jclautomation.com/docs/73904.pdfThere is a good picture showing the front tamper switch (fig 2.) and how to remove the cover (section 3 , picture 6). If the front cover is not fitted correctly, the tamper switch will not be activated and the system will alert you to this with a tamper alarm.Good luck



    thanks soo much russ. now seems to be working all fine. just needed a womans touch haha. fingers crossed its permanently fixed.

    thanks again x

    Good news!

    Might be worth getting some spare c123a batteries so you can be prepared and not have to buy them in a hurry at a high cost. Try Amazon, but stick to a reputable trader as some are fakes that are flat when new. If they seem too cheap to be true, they probably are fake.

    Well done
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