How dangerous is Donald trump?

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Found 18th Aug 2017
In Barcelona a dreadful attack happened and the president of the USA purported this as a solution
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At a recent white supremacist rally in his own country where a similar incident happened, he refused to apportion blame. Will the use of the terms sycophantic and bigot get me banned from this site? A risk I'm willing to take.
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even if it is a debunked myth.

what is wrong with rounding up all known extremists and shooting them in the back of the head? they would do the same to you given the chance.

make no mistake, we in the west are at war with extremist Muslims, you may want to put your fingers in your ears and sing lalala and hope the problem will go away, but it wont, it will just get worse until drastic measure are taken to stomp the issue out.
He isn't dangerous, he shouldn't be the head of state but he will achieve nothing in his time because he is consistently blocked.

Putin, Assad, IS, Hamas, ALQ, Barnier do far damage without criticism from some quarters. Pathetic how people are manipulated into fixating on Trump, if Obama was still in charge then us and our allies would be no safer.
Do you realise that Obama's administration supported far right extremists in their attempt to stop Russia taking over the Ukraine? It seems some far right groups are good guys to the Democrats. It's interesting that the far right protestors in Charlottesville and the protestors in the Ukraine both chanted "Blood and Soil" (a Nazi slogan). Why didn't the media condemn Obama and the Democrats back then? Surely in both instances it is reprehensible, or are some Nazis ok?
Edited by: "Predikuesi" 18th Aug 2017
In answer to the OP, not very dangerous. Just avoid twitter and you'll be safe.

He just doesn't seem to be a very good at knowing what to say or when and how to say it.

Surprisingly he is doing a really good job of bringing the moderates from the right and left together with a common goal of getting rid of him.
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He isn't dangerous, he shouldn't be the head of state but he will achieve nothing in his time because he is consistently blocked.

Putin, Assad, IS, Hamas, ALQ, Barnier do far damage without criticism from some quarters. Pathetic how people are manipulated into fixating on Trump, if Obama was still in charge then us and our allies would be no safer.
Donald is a wonderful leader. Do you see states in the middle east jumping up to create equality for non ethnic nationals? NO!

Get real things do not have to be even for everyone, they are not all in all countries!

As for white rights, well you want to apply equality and fairness to every country citizens, of every country do not agree with you!
Edited by: "groenleader" 18th Aug 2017
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even if it is a debunked myth.

what is wrong with rounding up all known extremists and shooting them in the back of the head? they would do the same to you given the chance.

make no mistake, we in the west are at war with extremist Muslims, you may want to put your fingers in your ears and sing lalala and hope the problem will go away, but it wont, it will just get worse until drastic measure are taken to stomp the issue out.
eset123456 m ago

even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known …even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known extremists and shooting them in the back of the head? they would do the same to you given the chance.make no mistake, we in the west are at war with extremist Muslims, you may want to put your fingers in your ears and sing lalala and hope the problem will go away, but it wont, it will just get worse until drastic measure are taken to stomp the issue out.



Indeed and those dramatic measures need to be directed at the very core of islam itself!

The panorama special will show all, "islams war on the west". How Islamic countries are funding terrorist groups and the impact they are having on us all.
Any leader deciding on a combination of popular and unpopular actions is dangerous. A difference is how many other leaders also support this leader in making unpopularly decisions and spin them to sound much better than they really are using selected facts, incomplete data and ignoring others.
E.g. cladding on a building, food additives with known health issues, makers of tobacco, degree of cleanliness at hospital trusts, eggs scare, micro plastic beads in beauty products, Libor rates, banking products misselling...and so on.
The general pattern is leaders, that's rights, leaders had decided on all these dangerous outcomes. Additionally It is always other leaders surrounding these decision makers who enable the final decisions unless the decision making groups are dictatorships.
eset1234520 m ago

even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known …even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known extremists and shooting them in the back of the head? they would do the same to you given the chance.make no mistake, we in the west are at war with extremist Muslims, you may want to put your fingers in your ears and sing lalala and hope the problem will go away, but it wont, it will just get worse until drastic measure are taken to stomp the issue out.



groenleader13 m ago

Indeed and those dramatic measures need to be directed at the very core of …Indeed and those dramatic measures need to be directed at the very core of islam itself!The panorama special will show all, "islams war on the west". How Islamic countries are funding terrorist groups and the impact they are having on us all.


How much more tax would you like to pay for this £500, £1000 , £5000 in this war, war does not come cheap and there are no cheap HotUKDeals around or you can choose to work and donate 20% of your wages in your war effort. We just set sail HMS Queen Elizabeth in our war effort around the world, much more money would be needed to implememt your words.
splender10 m ago

How much more tax would you like to pay for this £500, £1000 , £5000 in th …How much more tax would you like to pay for this £500, £1000 , £5000 in this war, war does not come cheap and there are no cheap HotUKDeals around or you can choose to work and donate 20% of your wages in your war effort. We just set sail HMS Queen Elizabeth in our war effort around the world, much more money would be needed to implememt your words.


You can offset the costs somewhat by giving out lucrative contracts. Ideally start dishing out the contracts before you start military conflicts as per the US model.
The business of war is profitable. In 2011, the 100 largest contractors sold $410 billion in arms and military services.
In answer to the OP, not very dangerous. Just avoid twitter and you'll be safe.

He just doesn't seem to be a very good at knowing what to say or when and how to say it.

Surprisingly he is doing a really good job of bringing the moderates from the right and left together with a common goal of getting rid of him.
I honestly hope someone doesn't assassinate Trump and turn him into a martyr.
The best thing that can happen is he gets impeached, discredited heavily and his businesses suffer.
Getting imprisoned would be a welcome bonus.

Unfortunately, I fear people will make an attempt on his life - and I wouldn't even rule out the US secret services from considering something like that.
Do you realise that Obama's administration supported far right extremists in their attempt to stop Russia taking over the Ukraine? It seems some far right groups are good guys to the Democrats. It's interesting that the far right protestors in Charlottesville and the protestors in the Ukraine both chanted "Blood and Soil" (a Nazi slogan). Why didn't the media condemn Obama and the Democrats back then? Surely in both instances it is reprehensible, or are some Nazis ok?
Edited by: "Predikuesi" 18th Aug 2017
Trump is dangerous due to being a rallying banner for those that would commit genocide and ethnic cleansing (to name just two of the many dreadful things they wish for).
His refusal to totally condemn Nazis and instead show them some implied support by holding them in equivalence to anti-nazis just encourages them further.

His use of outright lies empowers the far right even further.

As the US President, he should be looking for peace in his country rather than fanning flames by not condemning white supremacists.
Just look at all the approval messages from Nazis and their ilk. They finally have a US President who does not oppose their genocidal views.

All of that makes him dangerous.
Predikuesi14 m ago

Do you realise that Obama's administration supported far right extremists …Do you realise that Obama's administration supported far right extremists in their attempt to stop Russia taking over the Ukraine? It seems some far right groups are good guys to the Democrats. It's interesting that the far right protestors in Charlottesville and the protestors in the Ukraine both chanted "Blood and Soil" (a Nazi slogan). Why didn't the media condemn Obama and the Democrats back then? Surely in both instances it is reprehensible, or are some Nazis ok?


Whataboutery.
His views are dangerous and many people will defend or echo those views.

However, the reaction to him and the condemnation from all decent, brave people has been loud enough to encourage me that the effects may well be limited. He'll still set back race relations, LGBT rights and mess up the supreme court for a generation or two but he'll energise a whole new generation to fight harder against views like his.

What he's done is exposed the scum who think like him to the daylight. They'll thrive for a moment before being squashed by decent humans, as has always happened.
CoeK4 m ago

Whataboutery.


If we are talking about the Far Right, then your comment doesn't stand and at best is a deflection
Predikuesi2 m ago

If we are talking about the Far Right, then your comment doesn't stand and …If we are talking about the Far Right, then your comment doesn't stand and at best is a deflection



A deflection is precisely what your comment is.
splender58 m ago

How much more tax would you like to pay for this £500, £1000 , £5000 in th …How much more tax would you like to pay for this £500, £1000 , £5000 in this war, war does not come cheap and there are no cheap HotUKDeals around or you can choose to work and donate 20% of your wages in your war effort. We just set sail HMS Queen Elizabeth in our war effort around the world, much more money would be needed to implememt your words.



I don't know how much Islamic countries are paying in taxes for this! The Telegraph might!
Edited by: "groenleader" 18th Aug 2017
eset123451 h, 24 m ago

even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known …even if it is a debunked myth.what is wrong with rounding up all known extremists and shooting them in the back of the head? they would do the same to you given the chance.make no mistake, we in the west are at war with extremist Muslims, you may want to put your fingers in your ears and sing lalala and hope the problem will go away, but it wont, it will just get worse until drastic measure are taken to stomp the issue out.


Yeah lets just start slaughtering suspects that'll create peace won't it, it won't be seen as barbarism and enrage 24% of the planet would it. Yes mate 24% of the earth's population is Muslim, if life really was as black and white as you think with all them evil mooslims out to get you, you'd be dead long ago, but no wait 24% of the planet is not screaming jihad, people have a long history of alienating the majority in response to the actions of a minority, it never ends well does it.
Destard42 m ago

I honestly hope someone doesn't assassinate Trump and turn him into a …I honestly hope someone doesn't assassinate Trump and turn him into a martyr.The best thing that can happen is he gets impeached, discredited heavily and his businesses suffer.Getting imprisoned would be a welcome bonus.Unfortunately, I fear people will make an attempt on his life - and I wouldn't even rule out the US secret services from considering something like that.


Trust in the establishment to take him down he seems to be the kind of man with plenty of skeletons in the closet to choose from, the best they can do is actually block everything he does at senate level and destroy him utterly with some revelation at the next election.
Error44010 m ago

Yeah lets just start slaughtering suspects that'll create peace won't it, …Yeah lets just start slaughtering suspects that'll create peace won't it, it won't be seen as barbarism and enrage 24% of the planet would it. Yes mate 24% of the earth's population is Muslim, if life really was as black and white as you think with all them evil mooslims out to get you, you'd be dead long ago, but no wait 24% of the planet is not screaming jihad, people have a long history of alienating the majority in response to the actions of a minority, it never ends well does it.



Thankfully nobody that thinks that way will ever be in any position to actually do anything.
CoeK58 m ago

A deflection is precisely what your comment is.




Another deflection, like a random bouncing ball, there were and still are fascism supporter here in UK after WW2.
I think the sequence of colours of politics is this, from the western colour scheme,
1/ Imperialism dominated much of history since Jesus/Mohammed (and before this Abraham), this is blue,
2/ Then socialism and communism were hatched in the motherlands of extreme Imperialism, this is red,
3/ After WW1, fascism emerged to counter communism and to take over the Imperialism mantle, this is red colour too to mimic the idea of socialism and workers' rights as much employment power and rights still rested with employers then, (though of course they were thought to be Jewish),
4/ After WW2, central ground took over to spread neoliberalism, the colour is lite blue and sometimes colours in between red and blue,
5/ The Imperial wealth growth of the Royals in 1/ were curtailed and a new class of commoners emerged as the new novelle riches and put in their own legal and commercial systems under the cover of democracy. The colours are a spectrum of colours to embrace everyone, this is called rainbow. But the powers are now with another Abraham (Lincoln) country, largely replaced all the Imperialism in 1/, whence we have come round a full circle in the modern 2000 years history, Abrahamic descendants and faith still rule the world with others trailing behind. In the meantime the treasure islands of the Imperialism are now the safe havens for the novelle riches like Bermuda, British Virgin Islands. The colour is greenbacks. The new enemies of the people, now, are thought to be immigrants and Muslims since they appear to take rights off the workers or cause terror to common people when in 1/ that was what despotic imperial royals, aristocrats and gentry class did owning all the fertile lands.
If you look Trumps ties, they are mostly red , sometimes blue. This is because he wears red to indicate the commoner appeal as in 2/ and 3/ but he is in fact one of 1/ and 5/ which is blue.
Edited by: "splender" 18th Aug 2017
groenleader47 m ago

I don't know how much Islamic countries are paying in taxes for this! The …I don't know how much Islamic countries are paying in taxes for this! The Telegraph might!


There is only one country paying, that's Saudi Arabia.
Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be bought, has his own views which he's more than happy to express, the American people know his position and liked it hence voting him into office democratically.

Sadly he'll probably go down in history as the first President to be hounded from office for trying to implement his election pledges, all he wants is a wall to stop people entering the US from Mexico illegally and to stop extremists entering from suspect countries which in light of recent events isn't exactly a bad idea. Sovereignty and security, nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned but sadly the Media and the militant Left have other ideas and will cause as much trouble and agitation as possible until he's gone.
freakstyler5 m ago

Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be …Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be bought, has his own views which he's more than happy to express, the American people know his position and liked it hence voting him into office democratically. Sadly he'll probably go down in history as the first President to be hounded from office for trying to implement his election pledges, all he wants is a wall to stop people entering the US from Mexico illegally and to stop extremists entering from suspect countries which in light of recent events isn't exactly a bad idea. Sovereignty and security, nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned but sadly the Media and the militant Left have other ideas and will cause as much trouble and agitation as possible until he's gone.


Watch our lips, all state leaders are dangerous, if they had any slight pussy foot traits, they would have been eliminated in their rise to power.
freakstyler8 m ago

Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be …Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be bought, has his own views which he's more than happy to express, the American people know his position and liked it hence voting him into office democratically. Sadly he'll probably go down in history as the first President to be hounded from office for trying to implement his election pledges, all he wants is a wall to stop people entering the US from Mexico illegally and to stop extremists entering from suspect countries which in light of recent events isn't exactly a bad idea. Sovereignty and security, nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned but sadly the Media and the militant Left have other ideas and will cause as much trouble and agitation as possible until he's gone.


I assume you meant to add /s at the end there.
CoeK2 m ago

I assume you meant to add /s at the end there.


Sarcasm? nope.
Error4401 h, 10 m ago

Yeah lets just start slaughtering suspects that'll create peace won't it, …Yeah lets just start slaughtering suspects that'll create peace won't it, it won't be seen as barbarism and enrage 24% of the planet would it. Yes mate 24% of the earth's population is Muslim, if life really was as black and white as you think with all them evil mooslims out to get you, you'd be dead long ago, but no wait 24% of the planet is not screaming jihad, people have a long history of alienating the majority in response to the actions of a minority, it never ends well does it.




you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if they had the chance?

but we aren't talking about 24% of the worlds population though are we, unless of course IT'S YOU that believes that all muslims are extremists, because I've in no way implied that's my view, we aren't even talking about Muslim majority countries, im talking about the extremists in our country, and our country only, how others deal with their extremists is up to them.

so is that YOUR VIEW, that all muslims are extremists, because that's how it sounds.
Edited by: "eset12345" 18th Aug 2017
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eset123456 m ago

you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if …you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if they had the chance?but we aren't talking about 24% of the worlds population though are we, unless of course IT'S YOU that believes that all muslims are extremists, because I've in no way implied that's my view, we aren't even talking about Muslim majority countries, im talking about the extremists in our country, and our country only, how others deal with their extremists is up to them.so is that YOUR VIEW, that all muslims are extremists, because that's how it sounds.


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eset1234520 m ago

you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if …you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if they had the chance?but we aren't talking about 24% of the worlds population though are we, unless of course IT'S YOU that believes that all muslims are extremists, because I've in no way implied that's my view, we aren't even talking about Muslim majority countries, im talking about the extremists in our country, and our country only, how others deal with their extremists is up to them.so is that YOUR VIEW, that all muslims are extremists, because that's how it sounds.


Who is extremist and who is not, the thought police have a tendency to extend their scope ever increasingly, no one expects the Spanish inquisition. Do you really think saying or don't worry we are only shooting in the head anyone with extremist muslim views but white supremacists, militant hindus, zealots etc can say what they like, will be tolerated.

Your as nutty as trump
freakstyler51 m ago

Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be …Trump's not dangerous, he's just not a polished politician. He cant be bought, has his own views which he's more than happy to express, the American people know his position and liked it hence voting him into office democratically. Sadly he'll probably go down in history as the first President to be hounded from office for trying to implement his election pledges, all he wants is a wall to stop people entering the US from Mexico illegally and to stop extremists entering from suspect countries which in light of recent events isn't exactly a bad idea. Sovereignty and security, nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned but sadly the Media and the militant Left have other ideas and will cause as much trouble and agitation as possible until he's gone.



Ignoring the regurgitated talking points of the right, the simple fact is that he has sold out all the principles he held 15 years ago, on LGBT rights, on assault weapons and on pretty much every issue.

Why? In order to win the Republican nomination.

He appeals to the narrow-minded fears of individuals who are led by fear and ignorance.
eset1234540 m ago

you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if …you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if they had the chance?but we aren't talking about 24% of the worlds population though are we, unless of course IT'S YOU that believes that all muslims are extremists, because I've in no way implied that's my view, we aren't even talking about Muslim majority countries, im talking about the extremists in our country, and our country only, how others deal with their extremists is up to them.so is that YOUR VIEW, that all muslims are extremists, because that's how it sounds.




You want to execute people before they've committed a crime. Sorry, but that's not the British way.

Sadly people like you who are frustrated and angry are often the target of extremist indoctrination. You should probably be on a watch list if you aren't already.

In the meantime ask your grandparents what they fought for during the War (assuming they were on our side) or simply visit a library. You can be saved.
eset1234546 m ago

you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if …you think every one of them wouldn't slaughter you and your loved ones if they had the chance?but we aren't talking about 24% of the worlds population though are we, unless of course IT'S YOU that believes that all muslims are extremists, because I've in no way implied that's my view, we aren't even talking about Muslim majority countries, im talking about the extremists in our country, and our country only, how others deal with their extremists is up to them.so is that YOUR VIEW, that all muslims are extremists, because that's how it sounds.


Sounds like you're the one who thinks all Muslims are extremist. Your very first sentence is pretty clear and the rest of your comment becomes irrelevant.
HotEnglishAndWelshDeals13 m ago

You want to execute people before they've committed a crime. Sorry, but …You want to execute people before they've committed a crime. Sorry, but that's not the British way.Sadly people like you who are frustrated and angry are often the target of extremist indoctrination. You should probably be on a watch list if you aren't already. In the meantime ask your grandparents what they fought for during the War (assuming they were on our side) or simply visit a library. You can be saved.


My granddaddy was in the first and second world wars and something else as well i think it was the 2nd boer war, he joined before his balls had dropped he was either a drummer boy or a bugle boy one or the other or maybe both actually i don't know when drummers stopped being used , he was utterly disgusted by the whole thing, the nazi soldiers were no different to us, they were there out of fear and obligation. So many die all the time simply out of fear and obligation, we need to stop hating on people.
splender1 h, 20 m ago

There is only one country paying, that's Saudi Arabia.



The others are yet to release the figures! You must read the news every now and then, Qatar a huge sponsor!
Error4401 m ago

My granddaddy was in the first and second world wars and something else as …My granddaddy was in the first and second world wars and something else as well i think it was the 2nd boer war, he joined before his balls had dropped he was either a drummer boy or a bugle boy one or the other or maybe both actually i don't know when drummers stopped being used , he was utterly disgusted by the whole thing, the nazi soldiers were no different to us, they were there out of fear and obligation. So many die all the time simply out of fear and obligation, we need to stop hating on people.



Whos *we* ?
I give Trump 6-18 months before he is gone on his own accord.
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