How do I make a backup of a backed up wii game ?

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Found 31st Oct 2009
Hope this question is allowed on here.

I have a backed up wii game on dvd that works fine but I would like to make a copy of it on dvd. I've tried a simple dvd to dvd copy in Nero but my wii doesn't recognise the new copy.

Any ideas ?
Thanks
Adam

34 Comments

Original Poster

Thanks for the reply.

No not quite, I already have a backed up game on dvd I want to make a simple duplicate of the dvd but doesn't seem to work in Nero.

adam787_1;6744577

Thanks for the reply.No not quite, I already have a backed up game on dvd … Thanks for the reply.No not quite, I already have a backed up game on dvd I want to make a simple duplicate of the dvd but doesn't seem to work in Nero.



Don't you have to rip it to an iso, then burn it?

Original Poster

thesaint;6744596

Don't you have to rip it to an iso, then burn it?


Errm not sure ?
The backed up game works fine but when I make a copy of it in Nero the new disc doesn't work.

adam787_1;6744613

Errm not sure ?The backed up game works fine but when I make a copy of it … Errm not sure ?The backed up game works fine but when I make a copy of it in Nero the new disc doesn't work.



I think you have to rip it.

If you have the application on an SD card "DVD dumper", you can use your Wii to rip the game, and then burn it to DVD.

Original Poster

I only have the backed up game on dvd that works fine in my wii.

adam787_1;6744656

I only have the backed up game on dvd that works fine in my wii.



I know that. I give up.

go down to ur local boot fair, and there will be a freindly man that has already made a backup for u, but requires a fee for the service.

2 for a £5 or 5 for a £10

You nedd a special drive to burn it , unless there is a special ISO file.

Original Poster

lol ok will do.
But once I've bought the backup should I be able to make a copy of it ?

Original Poster

generaloneill;6744704

You nedd a special drive to burn it , unless there is a special ISO file.


Yes I thought you need an LG drive to make the backup, but I already have a backup on dvd but just want to copy it. Sorry if I'm being thick here !!

With you having a backup already it's not scrambled so therefore use ImgBurn's Read ISO/ then use Write ISO using DVD+r disc's with booktype set to DVD-ROM burn @4x onto 4x capable disc's and keep the verify option ticked. If it's a laptop writer you will need to close the tray manually to start verify stage then click OK. Laptop drives are not the best writers for this job or really any job.

If still no good post a log from ImgBurn

Original Poster

dontasciime;6744991

With you having a backup already it's not scrambled so therefore use … With you having a backup already it's not scrambled so therefore use ImgBurn's Read ISO/ then use Write ISO using DVD+r disc's with booktype set to DVD-ROM burn @4x onto 4x capable disc's and keep the verify option ticked. If it's a laptop writer you will need to close the tray manually to start verify stage then click OK. Laptop drives are not the best writers for this job or really any job. If still no good post a log from ImgBurn



Excellent, just trying it now, will let you know how it goes, only difference is I'm using DVD-r discs, should that be ok ?

Original Poster

OK just tried it.
Created the iso file, copied it using ImgBurn as advised but when going through the verify stage kept failing with I/O errors. I checked the log and this it what it says ..
I 22:51:58 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 22:51:58 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 22:51:58 Total Physical Memory: 1,310,196 KB - Available: 720,960 KB
I 22:51:58 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:51:58 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:51:59 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 22:53:55 Operation Started!
I 22:53:55 Source File: C:\Call of Duty (Wii) UK-FR.iso
I 22:53:55 Source File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:53:55 Source File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 22:53:55 Source File Volume Identifier: Call of Duty (Wii) UK/FR
I 22:53:55 Source File File System(s): Special
I 22:53:55 Destination Device: [1:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.1A ( D : ) (ATA)
I 22:53:55 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)
I 22:53:55 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
I 22:53:55 Write Mode: DVD
I 22:53:55 Write Type: DAO
I 22:53:55 Write Speed: 4x
I 22:53:55 Link Size: Auto
I 22:53:55 Lock Volume: Yes
I 22:53:55 Test Mode: No
I 22:53:55 OPC: No
I 22:53:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:53:55 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 22:53:56 Writing LeadIn...
I 22:54:28 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 22:54:28 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 23:08:24 Synchronising Cache...
I 23:08:32 Exporting Graph Data...
I 23:08:33 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\_NEC_DVD_RW_ND-3500AG_2.1A_31-OCTOBER-2009_22-53_TYG02_4x.ibg
I 23:08:33 Export Successfully Completed!
I 23:08:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:14:37
I 23:08:33 Average Write Rate: 5,490 KB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,765 KB/s (4.2x)
I 23:08:33 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 23:08:50 Device Ready!
I 23:08:50 Operation Started!
I 23:08:50 Source Device: [1:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.1A ( D : ) (ATA)
I 23:08:50 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: TYG02) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)
I 23:08:50 Image File: C:\Call of Duty (Wii) UK-FR.iso
I 23:08:50 Image File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 23:08:50 Image File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 23:08:50 Image File Volume Identifier: Call of Duty (Wii) UK/FR
I 23:08:50 Image File File System(s): Special
I 23:08:50 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 23:08:50 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 23:08:50 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
W 23:17:28 Failed to Read Sector 1506560 - Reason: No Seek Complete
W 23:18:05 Retrying (1)...
W 23:18:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 23:18:09 Retrying (2)...
W 23:18:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 23:18:11 Retrying (3)...
W 23:18:13 Retry Failed - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 23:18:15 Failed to Read Sector 1506560 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 23:18:17 Failed to Read Sector 1506561 - Reason: No Seek Complete
W 23:18:18 Failed to Read Sector 1506561 - Reason: No Seek Complete
W 23:18:20 Failed to Read Sector 1506562 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error


Lots and lots of them.
I cancelled the verify stage and tried the backup in the wii, it loads up ok starts the game, but fails after a few mins with 'the disc could not be read'.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Adam

EDIT: just tried a +R disc and same problem, also updated the firmware on my NEC drive.

Edit your post above and post the whole log

Ashampoo burning software will dump the iso to your computer (would have thought nero would too??), and then you can burn with imgburn or ashampoo. Burn at a slow speed :thumbsup:

Computer drives will read back ups, but not originals

Hope this helps

Banned

1. clean disc
2. put in drive
3. load nero start smart
4. go to "back up section"
5. click copy dvd and set destination as image recorder
6. hit copy
7. dont "verify" the disk.
8. go back into startsmart> backup> burn image to disc
9. pick 4x and burn it dont verify

if it still doesnt work then your disc is probably scratched and wont work

Original Poster

dontasciime;6749614

Edit your post above and post the whole log


Ok posted

bykergrove;6749707

1. clean disc2. put in drive3. load nero start smart4. go to "back up … 1. clean disc2. put in drive3. load nero start smart4. go to "back up section"5. click copy dvd and set destination as image recorder6. hit copy7. dont "verify" the disk.8. go back into startsmart> backup> burn image to disc9. pick 4x and burn it dont verifyif it still doesnt work then your disc is probably scratched and wont work







A disc that does not verify is a failed disc, unless a miscompare due to dodgy ram.

Verify is a very important and necessary part of DVD burning in much the same was as looking left then right and behind at a junction is before pulling out in a car during your test or indeed at anytime to exit the junction safely.

Madness to not follow sensible advice

Use USB loader GX and don't bother with discs

Use a cd lens cleaner in the drive to clean lens see if it helps

see if this 2.1b firmwarehq.com/dow…tml is compatible with your drive.

Can you also post the bit of the log where you used the dvd+r disc so I can see the mid code and to see if bitsetting was attempted or to see if it failed for the same reason as the -r did ..
Taiyo Yuden TYG02 is good media unfortunately ... they are easy to forge eg fake the mid code, tygo2 is used on many inferior disc's like mirror platinum, datawrite/datasafe/mediastar/ and are not as good as genuine taiyo yuden tyg02 media is and the dvd writer you have is very old now, well 3 years is old in dvd writer tech.

You really need to get hold of a copy of the ISO, simplest thing would then be to burn again at slow speed on a.

Lefty;6749886

You really need to get hold of a copy of the ISO, simplest thing would … You really need to get hold of a copy of the ISO, simplest thing would then be to burn again at slow speed on a.



If they are reading in the ISO from the disc which they are it's the same thing as long as it reads to an ISO without errors in the first instance.

Original Poster

Appeciate the help.
log from plus dvd+r disc ..

I 00:08:15 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 00:08:15 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 00:08:15 Total Physical Memory: 1,310,196 KB - Available: 862,500 KB
I 00:08:15 Initialising SPTI...
I 00:08:15 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 00:08:15 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 00:09:52 Operation Started!
I 00:09:52 Source File: C:\Call of Duty (Wii) UK-FR.iso
I 00:09:52 Source File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 00:09:52 Source File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 00:09:52 Source File Volume Identifier: Call of Duty (Wii) UK/FR
I 00:09:52 Source File File System(s): Special
I 00:09:52 Destination Device: [1:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.58 (D:) (ATA)
I 00:09:52 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 00:09:52 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 00:09:52 Write Mode: DVD
I 00:09:52 Write Type: DAO
I 00:09:52 Write Speed: 4x
I 00:09:52 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 00:09:52 Link Size: Auto
I 00:09:52 Lock Volume: Yes
I 00:09:52 Test Mode: No
I 00:09:52 OPC: No
I 00:09:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 00:09:52 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 00:09:52 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 00:09:53 Writing LeadIn...
I 00:10:14 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 00:10:14 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 00:24:13 Synchronising Cache...
I 00:24:14 Closing Track...
I 00:24:28 Finalising Disc...
I 00:24:43 Exporting Graph Data...
I 00:24:43 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\_NEC_DVD_RW_ND-3500AG_2.58_01-NOVEMBER-2009_00-09_MCC-004-00_4x.ibg
I 00:24:43 Export Successfully Completed!
I 00:24:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:14:50
I 00:24:43 Average Write Rate: 5,470 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,907 KB/s (4.3x)
I 00:24:43 Cycling Tray before Verify...
I 00:25:00 Device Ready!
I 00:25:06 Operation Started!
I 00:25:06 Source Device: [1:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.58 (D:) (ATA)
I 00:25:06 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 00:25:06 Image File: C:\Call of Duty (Wii) UK-FR.iso
I 00:25:06 Image File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 00:25:06 Image File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 00:25:06 Image File Volume Identifier: Call of Duty (Wii) UK/FR
I 00:25:06 Image File File System(s): Special
I 00:25:06 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 00:25:06 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 00:25:06 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
W 00:25:37 Failed to Read Sector 46160 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 00:25:47 Failed to Read Sector 46160 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 00:25:49 Failed to Read Sector 46161 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 00:25:50 Failed to Read Sector 46161 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 00:25:53 Failed to Read Sector 46162 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error
W 00:25:53 Failed to Read Sector 46162 - Reason: Unrecovered Read Error

Haha, wouldn't it be less hassle to buy a legit retail version?

That was on previous firmware try with 2.1a or 2.1 b and try 2.4x on +R then @8x as a final go before giving up and buying a new drive or trying to find some very old media eg 4x/2x/1x only like ritek g04 ...easier to get new drive for modern media as you drive and media is struggling

Original Poster

Ok thanks for your advice everyone.

Original Poster

bykergrove;6749707

1. clean disc2. put in drive3. load nero start smart4. go to "back up … 1. clean disc2. put in drive3. load nero start smart4. go to "back up section"5. click copy dvd and set destination as image recorder6. hit copy7. dont "verify" the disk.8. go back into startsmart> backup> burn image to disc9. pick 4x and burn it dont verifyif it still doesnt work then your disc is probably scratched and wont work



By the way just tried this and it worked !!

adam787_1;6750552

By the way just tried this and it worked !!



If you did not verify it's bound to appear as if it has worked.

At some point in the game though you're going to get a DDE or a glitch like missing music, stutter motion or a full on lock up /crash.

If it did verify then it will be fine but the same disc would have worked in ImgBurn.

Mine are all fine in ImgBurn as in the backup of my original I just backed up again.

I 17:18:42 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.2 Beta started!
I 17:18:42 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
I 17:18:42 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,937,404 KB
I 17:18:42 Initialising SPTI...
I 17:18:42 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (F:) (ATA)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S PS0C (I:) (ATA)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 3 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.Z3 (G:) (ATA)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 4 - Info: BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCDB (L:) (USB)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 5 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-M1 (J:) (USB)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 6 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-202 1.08 (O:) (USB)
I 17:18:42 -> Drive 7 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111 1.29 (N:) (USB)
I 17:18:43 -> Drive 8 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (M:) (USB)
I 17:18:43 -> Drive 9 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115L 1.18 (P:) (USB)
I 17:18:43 Found 2 DVD±RWs, 5 DVD±RW/RAMs, 1 BD-RE and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!
I 17:20:48 Operation Started!
I 17:20:48 Source Device: [5:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S PS0C (I:) (ATA)
I 17:20:48 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 17:20:48 Source Media Sectors: 2,294,912 (Track Path: PTP)
I 17:20:48 Source Media Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 17:20:48 Source Media Volume Identifier: Spielberg | EA BoomBlox
I 17:20:48 Source Media File System(s): Special
I 17:20:48 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x
I 17:20:48 Destination File: H:\Spielberg ¦ EA BoomBlox.iso
I 17:20:48 Destination Free Space: 594,096,148,480 Bytes (580,172,020 KB) (566,574 MB) (553 GB)
I 17:20:48 Destination File System: NTFS
I 17:20:48 File Splitting: Auto
I 17:20:48 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:20:48 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:25:48 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:25:48 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-160P6S_PS0C_01-NOVEMBER-2009_17-20_YUDEN000-T03-00.ibg
I 17:25:48 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:25:48 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:00
I 17:25:48 Average Read Rate: 15,299 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Read Rate: 22,449 KB/s (16.2x)
I 17:29:21 Operation Started!
I 17:29:21 Source File: H:\Spielberg ¦ EA BoomBlox.iso
I 17:29:21 Source File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:29:21 Source File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 17:29:21 Source File Volume Identifier: Spielberg | EA BoomBlox
I 17:29:21 Source File File System(s): Special
I 17:29:21 Destination Device: [0:0:0] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCDB (L:) (USB)
I 17:29:21 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: DAXON-AZ3-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 17:29:21 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 17:29:21 Write Mode: DVD
I 17:29:21 Write Type: DAO
I 17:29:21 Write Speed: 4x
I 17:29:21 DVD+R Reserve Track: Yes
I 17:29:21 Link Size: Auto
I 17:29:21 Lock Volume: Yes
I 17:29:21 Test Mode: No
I 17:29:21 OPC: Yes
I 17:29:21 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 17:29:21 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
I 17:29:21 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 17:29:21 Advanced Settings - OverSpeed: No, Solid Burn (K/U): No / Yes, WOPC: Yes
I 17:29:36 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 17:29:36 Writing LeadIn...
I 17:29:37 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:29:37 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:44:24 Synchronising Cache...
I 17:44:25 Closing Track...
I 17:44:26 Finalising Disc...
I 17:44:50 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:44:50 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\BENQ_DVD_LS_DW1655_BCDB_01-NOVEMBER-2009_17-29_DAXON-AZ3-00_4x.ibg
I 17:44:50 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:44:50 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:28
I 17:44:50 Average Write Rate: 5,180 KB/s (3.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,592 KB/s (4.0x)
I 17:44:50 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 17:44:59 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 17:45:08 Device Ready!
I 17:45:08 Operation Started!
I 17:45:08 Source Device: [0:0:0] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCDB (L:) (USB)
I 17:45:08 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: DAXON-AZ3-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 17:45:08 Image File: H:\Spielberg ¦ EA BoomBlox.iso
I 17:45:08 Image File Sectors: 2,294,912 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:45:08 Image File Size: 4,699,979,776 bytes
I 17:45:08 Image File Volume Identifier: Spielberg | EA BoomBlox
I 17:45:08 Image File File System(s): Special
I 17:45:08 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 17:45:08 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:45:08 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2294911)
I 17:50:32 Exporting Graph Data...
I 17:50:32 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\BENQ_DVD_LS_DW1655_BCDB_01-NOVEMBER-2009_17-29_DAXON-AZ3-00_4x.ibg
I 17:50:32 Export Successfully Completed!
I 17:50:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:24
I 17:50:32 Average Verify Rate: 14,209 KB/s (10.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 18,615 KB/s (13.4x)

I also find dvd-r as a more reliable media for Wii back ups.

Give up your failed, pathetic attempts at piracy and buy your games instead of stealing them

iNSOMANiAC;6751690

Give up your failed, pathetic attempts at piracy and buy your games … Give up your failed, pathetic attempts at piracy and buy your games instead of stealing them



Change the record you say this on every thread he is making a back up disc which is legit.

No making a back up of a back up isnt legal flower, because he clearly does not have the original !

Banned

adam787_1;6744656

I only have the backed up game on dvd that works fine in my wii.



Thread locked. If the OP can provide the original we can allow the conversation to continue. From what I have seen, and the discussion so far, it appears not to be the case.

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