How do I update my lenovo to Windows 10

33 replies
Found 12th Nov 2016
It has windows 10 but tells me it needs to update and req 10 or 16gb of space which the lenovo doesn't have, it's a netbook type thing that is touchscreen too.

I attach an external hdd with 150gb of space and it accepts this, but then states there must be 3gb of free space on the c drive which is the actual laptop.

What can I do? I've removed everything on the laptop I can but there is no space, why can the update not just use the hdd which has plenty of space?

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Original Poster

http://i.imgur.com/SxkPg3P.jpg

Don't upgrade it.

Remove some files so you have more space.

Take off personal files, make a bootable USB stick from the latest ISO, and do a fresh instal.

If you need help with any of that. Just ask

Original Poster

I have no files on it or apps! It is a lenovo yoga 300 so i don't think it has much memory, what do you mean about a bootable usb stick? Download windows 10 onto it and then install from it?

krisward7955

Don't upgrade it. Remove some files so you have more space.Take off … Don't upgrade it. Remove some files so you have more space.Take off personal files, make a bootable USB stick from the latest ISO, and do a fresh instal.If you need help with any of that. Just ask



I have no files on it or apps! It is a lenovo yoga 300 so i don't think it has much memory, what do you mean about a bootable usb stick? Download windows 10 onto it and then install from it?

Your drive is a 32GB or 500GB, depending which version you have so you MUST have something filling up all that space.

Download and run CCLeaner from Piriform, under options, select "Remove old Hotfixes". Stupidly, M$ doesnt clean up after itself, and leaves decades old install files clogging up everyones system; I took 20GB of hotfix files off of one old PC.

You might also want to consider upgrading the SSD to something bigger, so have a look here at how to do it.

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Gentle_Giant

Your drive is a 32GB or 500GB, depending which version you have so you … Your drive is a 32GB or 500GB, depending which version you have so you MUST have something filling up all that space.Download and run CCLeaner from Piriform, under options, select "Remove old Hotfixes". Stupidly, M$ doesnt clean up after itself, and leaves decades old install files clogging up everyones system; I took 20GB of hotfix files off of one old PC.You might also want to consider upgrading the SSD to something bigger, so have a look here at how to do it.Your text here



If it's the 32GB version. That drive is eMMc and can't be upgraded.

have you got any windows.old folders on your c: ? they took up a lot of space on my windows 10 tablet.

Original Poster

Agaeti

have you got any windows.old folders on your c: ? they took up a lot of … have you got any windows.old folders on your c: ? they took up a lot of space on my windows 10 tablet.


Where would they be hidden? I've had a look but can't see any

Original Poster

Gentle_Giant

Your drive is a 32GB or 500GB, depending which version you have so you … Your drive is a 32GB or 500GB, depending which version you have so you MUST have something filling up all that space.Download and run CCLeaner from Piriform, under options, select "Remove old Hotfixes". Stupidly, M$ doesnt clean up after itself, and leaves decades old install files clogging up everyones system; I took 20GB of hotfix files off of one old PC.You might also want to consider upgrading the SSD to something bigger, so have a look here at how to do it.Your text here


I've downloaded this but cannot find the hotfixes option, where is it?

Original Poster

krisward7955

If it's the 32GB version. That drive is eMMc and can't be upgraded.




I think it is the 32gb one, why cant it be upgraded?

Original Poster

Under system storage I found this page, it had old windows file at the bottom and was only 1gb.

http://i.imgur.com/NNMlLAn.jpg

trikidy

I've downloaded this but cannot find the hotfixes option, where is it?



Sorry, having just checked, they have removed the option/tick box for later versions.

Just make sure "Temporary Files" is ticked under the "System" list, and on the "Options Tab, tick "Only delete files older than 24 hours.

Analyse will do a scan and give a detailed breakdown of what it thinks is safe to delete, before you decide to delete it.

If you want to keep auto-complete log-in for website, untick the Cookies option for all browsers on both the "WIndows" and the "Applications" tabs.

Piriform do a number of very useful programs; if you find it useful, spread the word.

Original Poster

This is what I'm trying to update

http://i.imgur.com/DfAqMlU.jpg

Original Poster

Gentle_Giant

Sorry, having just checked, they have removed the option/tick box for … Sorry, having just checked, they have removed the option/tick box for later versions.Just make sure "Temporary Files" is ticked under the "System" list, and on the "Options Tab, tick "Only delete files older than 24 hours.Analyse will do a scan and give a detailed breakdown of what it thinks is safe to delete, before you decide to delete it.If you want to keep auto-complete log-in for website, untick the Cookies option for all browsers on both the "WIndows" and the "Applications" tabs.Piriform do a number of very useful programs; if you find it useful, spread the word.




Thanks I've done this and it did take about 0.5gig off, useful app thank you... Not sure if it's enough yet!

Just spotted your photo, no way the OS should be using that much.

After a quick look around, I have found my Win partition has also doubled in size, it seems CCleaner cannot access these system files any longer - possibly M$'s doing??

M$ have added an option to clean some of them under the disk clean up program built in.

Guide

Just free'ed up over 1.5GB.

I also suggest Mind Gems to help you identify what is using up all the space.

Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after running Common Cleaner click Slimming System to remove everything except Help Files and Wallpaper and it will also removes previously installed and not needed windows files

I have an Acer revo with 32GB eMMC and it's fully updateable if you have the space
What I id is attach external storage (SD card) and moved all My Docs, My Movies and most installed programs (where possible) to the SD to allow Win 10 to have the space for future updates but run Wis Disk Cleaner regularly as well as CCleaner because they both miss specific criteria




Edited by: "philphil61" 12th Nov 2016

Original Poster

philphil61

Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after … Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after running Common Cleaner click Slimming System to remove everything except Help Files and Wallpaper and it will also removes previously installed and not needed windows filesI have an Acer revo with 32GB eMMC and it's fully updateable if you have the spaceWhat I id is attach external storage (SD card) and moved all My Docs, My Movies and most installed programs (where possible) to the SD to allow Win 10 to have the space for future updates but run Wis Disk Cleaner regularly as well as CCleaner because they both miss specific criteria




This worked.

After using the ccleaner app I installed this and it removed another 2gb of "stuff", I also used the defrag option on there which freed up further space, even though I have already defraged using Windows.

All installed and happy bunny now, thanks for everyone's help.

krisward7955

If it's the 32GB version. That drive is eMMc and can't be upgraded.



Actually it can. I upgraded mine from 8.1 and then again when the anniversary update came out. Lenovo Miix 3 with 32gb eMMc.

I see you sorted this now but I was going to ask if you had upgraded from 8,1 as if you had chances are the old recovery partition was still there taking up 5.8 GB of space. Something else that can take up a lot of space as well are the updates themselves. They do disappear after a while but you can get rid of them manually also.

This PC
C Drive
Windows
Software Distribution
Download

Highlight all files press DELETE. Make sure you got the right folder !!

philphil61

Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after … Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after running Common Cleaner click Slimming System to remove everything except Help Files and Wallpaper and it will also removes previously installed and not needed windows filesI have an Acer revo with 32GB eMMC and it's fully updateable if you have the spaceWhat I id is attach external storage (SD card) and moved all My Docs, My Movies and most installed programs (where possible) to the SD to allow Win 10 to have the space for future updates but run Wis Disk Cleaner regularly as well as CCleaner because they both miss specific criteria

Defragmenting the hard drive on your desktop or laptop should be done … Defragmenting the hard drive on your desktop or laptop should be done occasionally, as it will increase its performance. The same is not true of the SSD or eMMC in your tablet.Defragmenting the internal storage on your mobile device won’t speed it up — it will have no effect on performance and will actually reduce the tablet’s lifespan.


AFAIK and understand you should never defrag your eMMC storage (just like SSD) it doesn't speed up your system but will reduce the lifespan of the eMMC
Do Not Defragment a Tablet’s Internal Storage

Edited by: "philphil61" 12th Nov 2016

Smartguy1

Actually it can. I upgraded mine from 8.1 and then again when the … Actually it can. I upgraded mine from 8.1 and then again when the anniversary update came out. Lenovo Miix 3 with 32gb eMMc.



The drive can't be upgraded. It's **** soldered to the **** motherboard. I didn't say anything about the software you ****

Smartguy1

Actually it can. I upgraded mine from 8.1 and then again when the … Actually it can. I upgraded mine from 8.1 and then again when the anniversary update came out. Lenovo Miix 3 with 32gb eMMc.




Not so **** smart are you? Maybe you should change your name to "dumbguy"

Original Poster

philphil61

AFAIK and understand you should never defrag your eMMC storage (just like … AFAIK and understand you should never defrag your eMMC storage (just like SSD) it doesn't speed up your system but will reduce the lifespan of the eMMCDo Not Defragment a Tablet’s Internal Storage


interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would the same advice go for them?

trikidy

interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would … interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would the same advice go for them?


If it has an SSD yes it will be the same - do not defrag
If normal Hard Drive (mechanical) then yes you can defrag
The way I try to explain it is SSD, USB and eMMC are like memory chips (no mechanical - nothing spins) whereas the old Hard Drives make a spinning noise (whirl) and are therefore mechanical
Defragging only improves mechanical drives

ps
Just re-read your question

I think you can get SSD HD for desktops


Try not to confuse the two (geeky stuff IMHO) SSD is one type of storage and HD is another type - although both hold storage one is mechanical (HD) on is not (SSD)
Edited by: "philphil61" 12th Nov 2016

trikidy

interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would … interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would the same advice go for them?


Just to add
Once you've done all the OS updates - reboot
Clean with Wise Disk Cleaner again and yes use the Slimming Tool again
and check for more updates and repeat the above proesses (until the report says you system is up to date)
Because of the 32Gb eMMC size restriction "users" may have delayed other critical updates/patches caused by the same lack of storage space

krisward7955

The drive can't be upgraded. It's **** soldered to the **** motherboard. … The drive can't be upgraded. It's **** soldered to the **** motherboard. I didn't say anything about the software you ****



You know I made a mistake by not reading all of the post and then you respond and show everyone what an arrogant TW*T you really are but if you are really clever with electronics you could upgrade the eMMc. It just would not be worth the cost. You know civility costs nothing but no doubt you like to hide behind words because you can and no doubt you have a collection of words, most of them with four letters and used often. Go to a mirror and recite them........

trikidy

interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would … interesting, how come? I think you can get SSD HD for desktops so would the same advice go for them?



Data on hard drives are stored in clusters of fixed lengths. Hence a file spans multiple clusters and when loading a file, the clusters that encapsulates the file have a reference pointer that references the next cluster, with the exception of the very first cluster which is referenced by a file table. Consequently, reading a file involves locating the starting cluster from the file table. Given the starting cluster, a pointer will determine the next cluster and so on and so forth.

Armed with the above information, given a situation where clusters of a file are scattered on a mechanical hard disk, seeks to the clusters would take much longer than a situation in which the clusters are stored contiguously - that stands to reason. With SSD, seeks to clusters is carried out electronically using a lookup table and the time to seek any cluster (no matter the location) is stateless. That is to say, the current state is not dependent on the times in which the cluster is seeked, unlike with mechanical hard drives where the current location of the drive heads plays a great part in seek times.
Edited by: "ElliottC" 13th Nov 2016

philphil61

AFAIK and understand you should never defrag your eMMC storage (just like … AFAIK and understand you should never defrag your eMMC storage (just like SSD) it doesn't speed up your system but will reduce the lifespan of the eMMCDo Not Defragment a Tablet’s Internal Storage




I'll add to that, defragging a SSD can KILL it, as it **** up the drives built in wear levelling system, done it myself on the first SSD I owned.

philphil61

Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after … Wise Disk Cleaner will remove more clutter than CCleaner and after running Common Cleaner click Slimming System to remove everything except Help Files and Wallpaper and it will also removes previously installed and not needed windows filesI have an Acer revo with 32GB eMMC and it's fully updateable if you have the spaceWhat I id is attach external storage (SD card) and moved all My Docs, My Movies and most installed programs (where possible) to the SD to allow Win 10 to have the space for future updates but run Wis Disk Cleaner regularly as well as CCleaner because they both miss specific criteria




Not heard of that one, I will give it a try. See if it can delete more than the stuff the built in cleaner program managed.

Gentle_Giant

Not heard of that one, I will give it a try. See if it can delete more … Not heard of that one, I will give it a try. See if it can delete more than the stuff the built in cleaner program managed.


If it's the first time you've used Wise Disk Cleaner I can bet it got rid of about 2Gb of carp but with you using the inbuilt Windows Disk Cleanup I wouldn't have a clue. I've used Wise Disk Cleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner (including optimisation and Registry Defrag) for so long it's just a normal weekly run task for me

Let me know the results if you would

For anyone wanting to install Wise Disk Cleaner or Wise Registry Cleaner below are the settings to make life easier

Uncheck Auto get news letter
Uncheck Show auto clean notice
If you want to schedule an auto clean then do so otherwise uncheck
I think there's also the option to "opt out" of Assistance - doesn't show the option on mine because I've already opted out
Specifically for Wise Disk Cleaner
Depending on how you like to sign into website (if you prefer your web broswer to retain login details for specific sites uncheck Cookies or add the relevant sites to the Exclusion)
Mine is unchecked as I use CCleaner to monitor web history and cookies

HTH

Edited by: "philphil61" 13th Nov 2016

philphil61

If it's the first time you've used Wise Disk Cleaner I can bet it got rid … If it's the first time you've used Wise Disk Cleaner I can bet it got rid of about 2Gb of carp but with you using the inbuilt Windows Disk Cleanup I wouldn't have a clue. I've used Wise Disk Cleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner (including optimisation and Registry Defrag) for so long it's just a normal weekly run task for meLet me know the results if you would



I am impressed, it removed another 1.3GB - all from the Windows/winsxs folder.

Gentle_Giant

I am impressed, it removed another 1.3GB - all from the Windows/winsxs … I am impressed, it removed another 1.3GB - all from the Windows/winsxs folder.


Thanks for quick update
Do you use any 3rd party software for cleaning junk as well as Windows Disk Cleanup or just Windows Disk Cleanup?

philphil61

Thanks for quick updateDo you use any 3rd party software for cleaning … Thanks for quick updateDo you use any 3rd party software for cleaning junk as well as Windows Disk Cleanup or just Windows Disk Cleanup?



As mentioned, I have been using CCleaner, but this blows it out of the water.
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