How long does it take to receive a speeding fine?

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Found 16th Feb 2012
I think i've just been caught doing about 38 in a 30 zone in Warrington near ikea by one on those mobile vans

does anyone know how long it takes before i can expect a letter?

i thought it was a 40 road as there is no 30 signs, not sure if i can contest that, i hit my brake the second i spotted him around the corner, but might be too late

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They have 21 days to notify you.

Sloth/Mod

i thought it was a 40 road as there is no 30 signs, not sure if i can … i thought it was a 40 road as there is no 30 signs, not sure if i can contest that, i hit my brake the second i spotted him around the corner, but might be too late



If you thought it was a 40 road then why would you have braked???

Last time I checked notice's were sent out within 14 days.

Youve got it the wrong way round though if theres no signs that usually means its a 30 zone.

Edited by: "AngrySpachelor" 16th Feb 2012

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Syzable

If you thought it was a 40 road then why would you have braked???



I always brake when i see a speed van regardless what speed im doing, scared of them lol

Banned

i thought it was a 40 road as there is no 30 signs!

you dont have 30 signs on 30 roads except when entering one from a higher speed and then there will only be 1

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Cartoonhead

I always brake when i see a speed van regardless what speed im doing, … I always brake when i see a speed van regardless what speed im doing, scared of them lol


Bad driver or what! oO

14 days unless more than one person drives the car ie hire car then they can have longer

Original Poster

to be fair all the other cars where doing around the same speed as myself, it was an industrial area back road which is not built up, its a long road with no houses, schools or crossings

Original Poster

ok cheers guys for pointing out 14 days, will have to wait and see now
Edited by: "Cartoonhead" 16th Feb 2012

It's 14 days for them to send it out, ie leave the office, not when you receive it. So if Royal Mail decide to keep hold of it for 3 months, the police will still be in the right, but if that happened then you'd be able to say in court (because it'd get there by then) that you didn't receive it promptly and will be able to take points and fine as indicated on form posted to you.

i thought it was a 40 road as there is no 30 signs



Surely the default speed is 30?
If I see no road signs, I assume that the limit is 30.

Two weeks of sleepless nights worrying about a ticket is far better than the alternative, count yourself lucky.

Dare you not to pay

why are you so eager to get your fine???? Just because you live in the fast lane doesnt mean we all do, wait like the other speeders!! X)

Was it a safety camera partnership van? There's a good chance they were not using full range and operator focusing on cars closer to van.
There's also a good chance your speedo overreads so 38 could be 35 or under unless you've checked it by gps. The Acpo
"guidelines" for prosecution are 10% + 2mph I think so in theory there threshold would be 35mph but usually slightly higher depending on the partnership.
Good chance you wont hear anything.
Edited by: "callum84" 16th Feb 2012

Cartoonhead

to be fair all the other cars where doing around the same speed as … to be fair all the other cars where doing around the same speed as myself, it was an industrial area back road which is not built up, its a long road with no houses, schools or crossings



I live near there and know where you mean. It's all 30mph around there - some of the signs on the main road have a tiny 30 in the corner as a reminder.

But this is the first time i've heard of a mobile van being used in the area!

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callum84

Was it a safety camera partnership van? There's a good chance they were … Was it a safety camera partnership van? There's a good chance they were not using full range and operator focusing on cars closer to van. There's also a good chance your speedo overreads so 38 could be 35 or under unless you've checked it by gps. The Acpo "guidelines" for prosecution are 10% + 2mph I think so in theory there threshold would be 35mph but usually slightly higher depending on the partnership.Good chance you wont hear anything.



Yes it was a safety camera van, quite large with rear window open, i spotted him about 150 metres before i passed, there was about 10 cars in front of me

For all those calling me a bad driver, ive been driving for 18 years, i dont make a habit of speeding, ive got no points and had no accidents, i consider myself as a decent driver and you have no right to judge me just because i've gone 8mph over the speed limit!

I simply asked a question about how long it takes to receive a letter, not the third degree on road safety.

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Angryman81

Here's a site to check out whether you've been zapped … Here's a site to check out whether you've been zapped -http://www.i-database.co.uk/index1.php



lol good one, according to that my old car sat on my driveway with no engine was clocked doing 81mph in a 60 zone last month, not bad considering it has no engine

Might use that for april fools

Cartoonhead

Yes it was a safety camera van, quite large with rear window open, i … Yes it was a safety camera van, quite large with rear window open, i spotted him about 150 metres before i passed, there was about 10 cars in front of meFor all those calling me a bad driver, ive been driving for 18 years, i dont make a habit of speeding, ive got no points and had no accidents, i consider myself as a decent driver and you have no right to judge me just because i've gone 8mph over the speed limit!I simply asked a question about how long it takes to receive a letter, not the third degree on road safety.


If youve got a gps unit go out a drive and sit at 38mph and see what Speed it reads, good chance it will be around 35mph or less depending on your car. Do it in a 40 zone of course lol.
The camera vans usually have a slightly higher threshold on a fast moving road like that, there looking for the drivers who are quicker than the rest.

Fred Flintstones been nicking cars again

Original Poster

callum84

If youve got a gps unit go out a drive and sit at 38mph and see what … If youve got a gps unit go out a drive and sit at 38mph and see what Speed it reads, good chance it will be around 35mph or less depending on your car. Do it in a 40 zone of course lol.The camera vans usually have a slightly higher threshold on a fast moving road like that, there looking for the drivers who are quicker than the rest.



Will do cheers

Banned

Doing under 40 in a 30 will probably be ignored by them...... don't sweat it

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Cartoonhead

Yes it was a safety camera van, quite large with rear window open, i … Yes it was a safety camera van, quite large with rear window open, i spotted him about 150 metres before i passed, there was about 10 cars in front of meFor all those calling me a bad driver, ive been driving for 18 years, i dont make a habit of speeding, ive got no points and had no accidents, i consider myself as a decent driver and you have no right to judge me just because i've gone 8mph over the speed limit!I simply asked a question about how long it takes to receive a letter, not the third degree on road safety.


so you're not a bad driver but havent noticed in 18 years of driving that 30mph roads dont have 30mph signs all along them like 40mph ones do?

and you openly admit to braking when you think there is a mobile camera ahead. Thats the very definition of bad driving imho

If you werent speeding, then you wouldnt need to brake.

it might be ANPR just checking for untaxed uninsured or un mot'd or cars with a marker on them

Give the guy a break he was going 38 in a 30, hes already stated it was not near schools or houses. Gees.

by the sounds of it, it'll be a speed van - anpr are usually more discreet.

38mph? maybe you'll shade it under their lower limit, but maybe you'll be just over - which could mean a speed awareness course = no points but a charge (usually £65-90) to attend a full or part day course.

in agreement with earlier posters, letter has to be sent within 14 days but doesn't really matter when you receive it.



main point is this - if you were behind a queue, maybe they've missed you on the camera at the higher speed.

Angryman81

Here's a site to check out whether you've been zapped … Here's a site to check out whether you've been zapped -http://www.i-database.co.uk/index1.php


quality s**t me up

ZedEx

Give the guy a break he was going 38 in a 30, hes already stated it was … Give the guy a break he was going 38 in a 30, hes already stated it was not near schools or houses. Gees.



Which is still well over 20% over the limit, it doesn't need to be near schools or houses for something to happen out of the blue.

Simple cure, slow down.
Edited by: "Inactive" 16th Feb 2012

If there are no signs and have streetlights its a 30 limit learnt that on one of my first driving lessons after the instructor shouted at me when i asked as i hadnt seen a sign

I wouldnt worry if you've got it youve got it

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Inactive

Which is still well over 20% over the limit, it doesn't need to be near … Which is still well over 20% over the limit, it doesn't need to be near schools or houses for something to happen out of the blue.Simple cure, slow down.



Oh shut up..... what are you, a copper or something?!
oO

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seefman

Oh shut up..... what are you, a copper or something?!oO




err yes ,, and next time stick to the speed limit oO

dog_cop

err yes ,, and next time stick to the speed limit oO


Not that your username and avatar was a giveaway or anything

dog_cop

err yes ,, and next time stick to the speed limit oO


You been on road wars?

It's amazing how many people haven't got a clue what the speed limits are unless they see the speed limit sign every half a mile. I regularly travel the A590 in Cumbria and that is national speed limit and every time a car approaches the fixed speed camera they slow to 50mph. Numptees
Edited by: "si1234" 16th Feb 2012

Dont panic - Join the Liberal Party and get your wife to take the points, that'll work a dream

Use google maps/streetview to look at any speed signs. However I was always told when learning to drive, if the road is street lit it's a 30 unless indicated otherwise.

What are the rules relating to a Notice of Intended Prosecution?
For certain offences, the process can be started by serving a Notice of Intended Prosecution Pursuant to Section 1 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act. Typically, these offences are speeding, failing to comply with traffic signals etc. The obligation is upon the prosecution to have issued and despatched the Notice in order that it arrives with the registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 days of the offence.

Service can be by first class post, by hand or in some circumstances, by recorded delivery. The method of delivery is at the discretion of the prosecution who only have to show that they have followed the correct procedure.

The Notice must be signed (although this can be typed) on behalf of the Chief Constable, must be dated and contain sufficient information for the offence to be identified.

What is the 14 day rule?
The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that in the normal course of events, it should have arrived. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence.

The Notice of Intended Prosecution was issued out of time, what do I do now?
If you are the registered keeper of the vehicle and the ISSUE date on the Notice of Intended Prosecution is more than 14 days after the offence, then you can reject it. This only applies if it is dated more than 14 days after the alleged offence. It does not apply if it is dated within 14 days but received more than 14 days after the offence. If the NIP has been issued too late, then you should return it to the Process Office stating that you reject it because it is time barred. Bear in mind that if you are not the registered keeper, the NIP may have originally been issued within time and sent to the keeper.

BTW, OP you sound like an awful driver

Paddy_o_furniture

BTW, OP you sound like an awful driver


What a way to end a post!

Amazing how these kind of threads always attract comments from the perfect drivers oO

And as for the copper giving his two penneth - you lot are some of the worst culprits of bad driving, including speeding.
Edited by: "gizmouk" 16th Feb 2012

OP saw speed van 150 metres before passing it but still stayed at 38mph lul
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