How to get out of paying speeding tickets?

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Found 9th Apr 2009
Just looking for any help and how to get out of speeding tickets? Are there any any successful template letters? Any help

Just so people know i wasn't speeding intentionally i was on a dual carriageway and the speed was 30mph not 40mph as was shown the week before. The signs were not clear at all as the signs from the previous week were still up.

Easy mistake so please don't patronize me with you should not have been speeding..blah blah blah
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Tough Take It And Dont Speed
Easy, pay the fine, stfu moaning about it cos u got caught and stop speeding lol

People like you make me laugh
raptorcigs;4879046

Tough Take It And Dont Speed



Rappy's right! Pay up, slow down!
dont speed in the first place or slow down when you see those big yellow things on grey poles
Just pay up, speed limits are there for a reason.
Speed Awareness course if you dont want the points or accept them like a man. Unless you can afford the fancy lawyer the celebs get to get them out of speeding in their sports cars
another idea ... dont pay.. wait for the court summons.. go to court .. then pay extra rather than the £60 .. easy
there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember it or find it i will post it up for you x
ilovepink;4879269

there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember … there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember it or find it i will post it up for you x



its pepipoo.com/
ilovepink;4879269

there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember … there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember it or find it i will post it up for you x



Thanks for the help.

Post if you can find it:)
ilovepink;4879269

there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember … there is a website that helps people in your situation out if i remember it or find it i will post it up for you x



Dont help him, he's commited a crime and you would be helping him worm out of it
Go here:

forums.pepipoo.com

The users on that site know traffic law extremely well, I'd definitely recommend posting your case there. There's strict laws on the signage for speed limits which there may be an error with or may not but it's worth a shot.

John
bargainhunter2009;4879285

its http://www.pepipoo.com/



Cheers will give that a look:thumbsup:
bob, dont know of any that actually work, I imagine the process dept have heard them all, calibration request etc. You could always go to court and try your luck. If you lost, the fine would probably go up though
ADZ1478;4879325

bob, dont know of any that actually work, I imagine the process dept have … bob, dont know of any that actually work, I imagine the process dept have heard them all, calibration request etc. You could always go to court and try your luck. If you lost, the fine would probably go up though



yes court fees etc...prob best to take it on the chin though. Depends what was your speed - how much were you over speed limit? Were you in a 30 zone near school etc?
bob100;4879289

Thanks for the help.Post if you can find it:)



already been posted but here it is again

forums.pepipoo.com

dean3988;4879291

Dont help him, he's commited a crime and you would be helping him worm … Dont help him, he's commited a crime and you would be helping him worm out of it



everyone makes a mistake, im sure everyone is guilty of going a bit too fast when they are not supposed to x

The JFK;4879305

Everyone needs to stop jumping on the OP's back.I always speed when I'm … Everyone needs to stop jumping on the OP's back.I always speed when I'm in my Beemer. On a 30mph road I usually hit 60mph. On the motorway I always get up to atleast 120mph but normally a lot more than that. If I'm drunk though I only drive at a max of 100mph 'cos otherwise it's probably a bit dangerous.



your an idiot the op has made a mistake due to such road markings being wrong, you are bragging about drink driving hope if you kill yourself you dont take a innocent family with you, as if you have a car anyway more like a carp bmx lol

Train Driver;4879317

You go to school on the sunshine bus JFK.......I doubt that does 120 MPH:?




LMFAO REPPED :lol:
Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible before it is corrected. Conflicting speed limits cannot be enforced, because, as you have shown, people are confused as to which one is valid.

People on their high horses on here may have a point when there is only one speed limit, but when their are two options, things aren't quite so clear.
peodude;4879401

Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible … Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible before it is corrected. Conflicting speed limits cannot be enforced, because, as you have shown, people are confused as to which one is valid.People on their high horses on here may have a point when there is only one speed limit, but when their are two options, things aren't quite so clear.



+1:thumbsup:
peodude;4879401

Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible … Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible before it is corrected. Conflicting speed limits cannot be enforced, because, as you have shown, people are confused as to which one is valid.People on their high horses on here may have a point when there is only one speed limit, but when their are two options, things aren't quite so clear.



Will try to do that. Cheers.

Just need help on template letters, statute help etc.

i got the 2 links above so hopefully that'll help me

Any other help will be much appreciated:)
Everyone is so quick to jump on the OP but if indeed there were signs stating a speed limit of 40mph, then surely the ticket would be debatable :thinking:
peodude;4879401

Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible … Get photographic evidence of the conflicting signage as soon as possible before it is corrected. Conflicting speed limits cannot be enforced, because, as you have shown, people are confused as to which one is valid.People on their high horses on here may have a point when there is only one speed limit, but when their are two options, things aren't quite so clear.


YOU GO WITH THE LOWER SPEED CHECK HIGHWAY CODE
Mrs.Z;4879770

Everyone is so quick to jump on the OP but if indeed there were signs … Everyone is so quick to jump on the OP but if indeed there were signs stating a speed limit of 40mph, then surely the ticket would be debatable :thinking:



Correct - for a 30mph limit to enforceable it must have a set of lit 30mph terminal signs followed by a regular system of streetlighting or if there is no lighting then there must be 30mph repeaters.

John
bob100;4879448

Will try to do that. Cheers.Just need help on template letters, statute … Will try to do that. Cheers.Just need help on template letters, statute help etc.i got the 2 links above so hopefully that'll help meAny other help will be much appreciated:)



Don't use template letters - while there are companies advertising this type of service they should be ignored, there is no standard get out of jail free card. If you want to avoid getting the points then your case is going to be based on a specific set of circumstances which are mostly unique. At worst I've actually seen these template letters get people into worse trouble than speeding as people have been pulled up for failure furnish instead of the original speeding charge. This is a hefty six points and a much larger fine which unless there is good reason for it (using template letters isn't one) then it's very difficult to defend against.

John
raptorcigs;4879821

YOU GO WITH THE LOWER SPEED CHECK HIGHWAY CODE



Doesn't matter, you still can't be done for speeding if there were 2 road signs.

Johnmcl7;4880059

Correct - for a 30mph limit to enforceable it must have a set of lit … Correct - for a 30mph limit to enforceable it must have a set of lit 30mph terminal signs followed by a regular system of streetlighting or if there is no lighting then there must be 30mph repeaters.John



Wrong on both counts i'm afraid. Speed limit signs do have to be lit, apart from 30mph ones. Also no repeaters are required for a 30mph zone.
peodude;4880125

Wrong on both counts i'm afraid. Speed limit signs do have to be lit, … Wrong on both counts i'm afraid. Speed limit signs do have to be lit, apart from 30mph ones. Also no repeaters are required for a 30mph zone.



I'm not wrong, you've misread the post - 30mph terminal signs must be lit (which is usually by the street lighting itself thus meeting the 'clearly visible' requirement) and repeaters are required if there is no streetlighting:

14.22 Where a 30 mph speed limit is imposed on a road without street … 14.22 Where a 30 mph speed limit is imposed on a road without street lighting, it is necessary to make an order. In this case 30 mph repeater signs must be provided (direction 11(2)).



John
btw, as for this rubbish about it not being clear... if it really wasn't - then goto court and fight your corner. If you are just too arrogant to admit you cocked up, learn how to accept that fact, and pay the fine.

I am 99% sure its the latter.
do you know for sure what your punishment is yet ? i was 6mph over the limit and got a letter just saying to be more aware of my speed in future
Yup, I agree - if ou don't obey the law you should expect to get stomped on.

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The police and the courts should also obey the law. Simples

They should obey the law to the letter, since they're administering it.

If they've put a foot wrong then they're just as much in the wrong as you.

Sure, two wrongs don't make a right, but of they've fouled up, then it's as tuff on them as it could have been on you.

Find the chink!

PS I was gonna say about [url]www.pepipoo.com[/url], but someone beat me to it.
peodude;4880125

Doesn't matter, you still can't be done for speeding if there were 2 road … Doesn't matter, you still can't be done for speeding if there were 2 road signs. IM TALKING ABOUT COMMON SENSE A NORMAL PERSON WOULD SLOW DOWN INCASE THE AREA LIMMIT HAS CHANGED AND NOT "CAN I GET AWAY WITH IT BOY RACER ATTITUDE"DONT PUT YOURSELF AT RISK AND CERTANLY NOT OTHERS ITS JUST NOT WORTH ITWrong on both counts i'm afraid. Speed limit signs do have to be lit, apart from 30mph ones. Also no repeaters are required for a 30mph zone.

You're not talking about common sense, you're talking nonsense - the rules on speed limits are very strict for the precise reason people need to know what speed they are allowed to do and why speed limits cannot be enforced if there is any error in the signage. You can't creep round the country's roads at 30mph in the offchance the speed limit has been changed but they haven't updated the signage correctly. If indeed as the thread creator has said there are either 40mph terminal signs or any 40mph repeaters then they cannot enforce the speed limit as neither of these are allowed in a 30mph limit. It would be common sense that if you saw 40mph signs and repeaters and were not aware of any speed limit change that you'd continue to drive at 40mph.

However if all the signs are marked up clearly then unfortunately it's going to have to be chalked down to experience not to do so again, obviously redoing the route as soon as possible and getting a passenger to take picture or film the journey to check is the best way forward.

John
i can understand where op is coming from, near to us, there's a dual carriageway where suddenly the speed limit goes from 60 to 40 and the camera is right on the line of change.. if a new person came into the area, they'd get done easy peasy.. good luck to op. one can only learn from their mistakes (only if its a genuine mistake, mind)
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