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    How to stop torrents on my Internet connection?

    We have a virgin media box, made by Belkin (I can get the Model number)

    My problem is that in a student house someone is torrenting and when he doesn't let anyone else connect and it's getting annoying, is there a way to block torrent downloads using the router settings?

    38 Comments

    Banned

    tell him straight, if your all paying for it and its causing you bother let him know!

    if you know who the user is then just block his pc in manager settings-I assume you must know who it is? or just tell him he is being selfish cutting other peoples connection and if he doesnt stop resort to violence

    Original Poster

    I have had a word a couple of times but he keeps doing it, I thought I'd remove temptation. I can have another word but I recon he would just carry on doing it.

    Guess I can't block a certain port or something?

    Banned

    golemsmate

    I have had a word a couple of times but he keeps doing it, I thought I'd … I have had a word a couple of times but he keeps doing it, I thought I'd remove temptation. I can have another word but I recon he would just carry on doing it. Guess I can't block a certain port or something?



    just have a read through these.

    google.co.uk/sea…nts

    Just Limit the upload settings.. The more this is limited, the more useless his torrenting becomes. Failing that, block his MAC (If on wireless) - I've had issues like that before.

    golemsmate

    Guess I can't block a certain port or something?



    No you can change the ports that a client uses.

    Original Poster

    Ive turned off UPnP what ever that is... If he uses the default settings will this stop torrents? I went down and asked him to stop then I could get on the Internet settings

    I'm stuck on my phone atm lol

    Th only thing you could really do that wont harm anyones connection is allow acces to only the mac addresses in the house. you should then be able to set allow, block or set times his Mac address is able to access the internet. makesure you password the router!

    Disabling port forarding might help (?)

    I personally would tell him to stop being such a **** and give him an ultimatum. then go through with the above plan. Its not hard just to torrent overnight or when hes the only one in, hes just being an unbreasonable tool.

    just tell him if he do it again you r going to sing in front of him when he is asleep,n also play a clown when he is having his super.........lol that'll teach him a lesson

    Original Poster

    I could set times but I couldn't ban the Internet for the day, he's still paying a share, the torrent isn't exactly what u call legal either it's best to make it stop. I would take more action if it was in my name.

    Umm port forwarding is used ATM for the ps3 to reduce the nat lol

    It is a hard one wish he listens lol

    Anybody know big rick? Could use him
    Edited by: "golemsmate" 29th Nov 2010

    Tough situation as even if you justify it by saying he is using a torrent, then have you never used Youtube or something similar to watch something illegal? If you do then you are picking and choosing reasons.

    If he is paying to use it he is entitled to use it the same as the rest of the tenants, if he isnt willing to listen find some way to limit what he does rather than stop it which I would be fuming about if it was me.

    The issues with setting a time to use it means, if say you say to torrent only overnight then he has to have his pc on overnight costing electric etc.

    How does he take the news btw? is he just being a prat on purpose or is he just ignorant of others.

    punching him in the face sounds a good plan.

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass

    Ok, I'd re-enable UPNP as it's useful, anyway my flat mate did this I … Ok, I'd re-enable UPNP as it's useful, anyway my flat mate did this I just blocked his internet everytime and he just thought it was his laptop and stopped using them.Anyway I presume he is using Utorrent as a client, it has a download scheduler built in, tell him to set it to only download between say 1am - 8am?Computers use hardly any elec anyway, especially laptops.[/quot[quote=dcx_badass]Ok, I'd re-enable UPNP as it's useful, anyway my flat mate did this I just blocked his internet everytime and he just thought it was his laptop and stopped using them.Anyway I presume he is using Utorrent as a client, it has a download scheduler built in, tell him to set it to only download between say 1am - 8am?Computers use hardly any elec anyway, especially laptops.




    first to the previous post: he just said he isnt downloading anything and then saw wallstreet torrent was stopped and the internet started working.

    What does UPnP do? he does use utorrent, i dont want to get too involved, its not my internet its in somebody elses name i just want to make the internet work and stop anybody torrenting lol is that a bad thing to want?

    Banned

    addjon

    just tell him if he do it again you r going to sing in front of him when … just tell him if he do it again you r going to sing in front of him when he is asleep,n also play a clown when he is having his super.........lol that'll teach him a lesson


    the above is a crap idea unless you're some kind of fairy, just tell him to stop, if he doesn't listen, break his nose/fingers

    You need some kind of QoS setting up. The torrenting is not the problem, more the amount of data going to the PC. Does your internet stop completely? It's not right to stop him torrenting, if he is paying his share, but it's not fair if this action is disabling other peoples internet.

    If it is just the peak time capping that is slowing things down, Virgin XXL 50MB doesn't have any capping.

    There's something wrong somewhere, i can download torrents at the limit of my connection but others internet still works.

    Original Poster

    peodude

    You need some kind of QoS setting up. The torrenting is not the problem, … You need some kind of QoS setting up. The torrenting is not the problem, more the amount of data going to the PC. Does your internet stop completely? It's not right to stop him torrenting, if he is paying his share, but it's not fair if this action is disabling other peoples internet.If it is just the peak time capping that is slowing things down, Virgin XXL 50MB doesn't have any capping.There's something wrong somewhere, i can download torrents at the limit of my connection but others internet still works.



    well its illegal anywho so i dont see it as being unfair. if this UPuP thing stops the torrenting he can still watch sky player and use it right

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    peodude

    You need some kind of QoS setting up. The torrenting is not the problem, … You need some kind of QoS setting up. The torrenting is not the problem, more the amount of data going to the PC. Does your internet stop completely? It's not right to stop him torrenting, if he is paying his share, but it's not fair if this action is disabling other peoples internet.If it is just the peak time capping that is slowing things down, Virgin XXL 50MB doesn't have any capping.There's something wrong somewhere, i can download torrents at the limit of my connection but others internet still works.



    it does for newsgroups and p2p doesnt it?

    upnp is just an automated method of port forwarding(simplified) best is to disable dhcp, give everyone manual ip addresses and show them how to set it,
    most routers can then block certain ips on request, some on a schedule.
    that is if it is this guy, using this method may show you its someone else possibly doing it unknowingly if infected with some malware.

    Edited by: "maddogb" 29th Nov 2010

    dcx_badass

    OR leave DHCP on and just block the mac.



    already suggested (post 5)

    No idea how the router works. Does it have any type of customiseable firewall ?
    You could try blocking alll ports except 8080 for his mac address. So he can access the internet normally but unable to torrent or use any program who require access to other ports.
    Blocking his mac completely would be too far if he's paying for it aswell.
    But if you can't selectively block ports for one mac then just block his mac address whenever you need to use the Internet, and can't. Or during the day time. Or something.

    Whose name is on the internet as they are liable for what is being downloaded.

    Tell him to stop paying his share and to get his own internet.

    Get Microsoft Word up and write a fake cease and desist letter from the RIAA, MPAA, ACS Law, etc... print it out and post it. Wait a few days and hopefully that'll scare him into stopping

    P.S. I set up my parent's router to block bittorrent (younger brother was a download fanatic at the time) as they were complaining about the speed.
    I set the following rules in the router settings:
    - Block all ports
    - Allow port 80
    - Allow port 443

    The first rule blocks all the ports but the second two (for http and https traffic) override the block on those ports. So the result is all the ports except 80 & 443 are blocked. I think it worked but i guess it depends on how your router can be set up...

    Edited by: "oldmanhouse" 29th Nov 2010

    dcx_badass

    Well done, I know it was, what I was saying is it's a better idea than … Well done, I know it was, what I was saying is it's a better idea than the IP.


    better idea?, not convinced on that one especially with nothing to back it up so far

    maddogb

    better idea?, not convinced on that one especially with nothing to back … better idea?, not convinced on that one especially with nothing to back it up so far


    Indeed, any monkey can spoof a MAC address.

    The easiest way is to buy an old Linksys WRT54G router off ebay (costs about 5 or 6 pound). These are great little routers that allow you to install your own software. (other routers also, but look on link below to see which)

    All you need to do is download a custom firmware from here polarcloud.com/tomato , go to the router settings and click update firmware (selecting the downloaded file)

    The Tomato firmware is very very easy to use, and gives you options like bandwidth throttling to certain users, and even an option to block (or at the very least greatly limit) torrents.

    Bit of a pain I know swapping routers, but just make some excuse, and at least to gives you complete control.

    Heres all the options for QOS (quality of service) in Tomato
    decimation.com/mar…up/

    He can't torrent without a computer... I'm just saying....

    dcx_badass

    Yeah beause it's harder to do that than change your local static IP.......


    Use static IP's and I think they might notice the address conflict warnings when someone pinches their IP, MAC address spoofing ain't so obvious.

    dcx_badass

    Yeah beause it's harder to do that than change your local static IP.......



    and it wouldnt work regardless. you dont block the mac you only allow the authorised ones and not include his on the list.

    The port option is a good one though you would need to find out what ports differenct software you might be using that access the internet try to use and enable those aswell.

    or as has been said block all apart from the two HTTP ports for his mac address.
    if you do it on the sly he will take a while to work it out.

    Original Poster

    Lost Symphonies

    He can't torrent without a computer... I'm just saying....



    lol love it If i blocked all ports that would disable PS3's, xboxs and stuff like that? The internet is in someone elses name and they dont know about the downloads just thinks the internet is poo, dont want to grass him up.

    i love that idea lol! someone else mentioned XXL broadband, we're students lol we have the cheapest one we could get, its meant to be 10mb but when torrenting for some reason the router doesnt allow any other connections.

    I'm warey about disabling all ports

    VM are probably throttling speeds in line with their traffic management policy.

    Its not a case of grassing up. Tell the guy who is downloading that he stops or limits it or you will tell the bill payer.

    The bill payer is liable for the stuff he is downloading and i wouldn't be happy having my name attached to dwarf porn (well not again anyways)

    It's not that the router doesn't allow other connections, it's just torrenting steals all the bandwidth. Blocking all ports but 80 and 443 would disable PSN and XBL but you've just gotta find the ports which they use and allow them.

    Tbh blocking his MAC address is probably the best idea as you can turn MAC filtering on and off easily - so you can just enable it when he's torrenting. Although spoofing a MAC is simple, not everyone knows its possible (or even what a MAC address is). Only downside is that he won't be able to get online at all which is a tad unfair - hence my suggestion which limits him only to internet browsing (and anything else you put on the allow list... i.e. XBL)
    Edited by: "oldmanhouse" 30th Nov 2010

    write up a fake letter from the british film piracy people saying they are going to sue and need the name of the person who downloaded "X movie" (one that you know he downloaded). show everyone the letter in your flat and say you have had to give his details to them. scare him.

    ascen

    write up a fake letter from the british film piracy people saying they … write up a fake letter from the british film piracy people saying they are going to sue and need the name of the person who downloaded "X movie" (one that you know he downloaded). show everyone the letter in your flat and say you have had to give his details to them. scare him.



    Totally pointless, he's more than likely clued up on downloading, and a quick Google search will reveal that any "You have downloaded ............. on .............. at ..........." are completely rubbish. Have a start at an ACS Law search.

    Just ask the bloke if he could limit the speed his torrents download slightly as it stops your internet working. Simple. Blocking his internet is just going to cause big problems in a shared house. As long as your internet starts working, you have no say in what he can or can't do on his share.

    peodude

    Totally pointless, he's more than likely clued up on downloading, and a … Totally pointless, he's more than likely clued up on downloading, and a quick Google search will reveal that any "You have downloaded ............. on .............. at ..........." are completely rubbish. Have a start at an ACS Law search. Just ask the bloke if he could limit the speed his torrents download slightly as it stops your internet working. Simple. Blocking his internet is just going to cause big problems in a shared house. As long as your internet starts working, you have no say in what he can or can't do on his share.



    Not totally pointless, the point is to make him think he is under scrutiny and that his name has been passed on to people who could make his life difficult - basically a hollow threat.

    Personally I would apply qos, disable upnp and a few other things, but they would beyond what an average user could do.

    dcx_badass

    Of course you have a say in what he can do, the bill payer is liable for … Of course you have a say in what he can do, the bill payer is liable for everything on the connection, so if he's getting child porn it's no problem as he's paying his share?



    The OP is not the bill payer though, so apart from his loss of connection, which he has a right to be upset about, the rest is nothing to do with him.

    On the child porn front. a) torrenting isn't illegal, b) downloading copyright material is a civil offence. c) child porn is a serious criminal offence. Totally different.

    set up a new password on the account and don't tell him what it is

    Or don't pay your share of the bill
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