I felt more interested and bothered when Obama got in power rather than this general election.... Anyone agree?

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Found 7th May 2010
Dont know why but i remember being glued to the news when Obama got into power... felt like a real part of history. For some reason im not bothered at all by this general election... 3 people that are all talk and as usual there is some scandal going on - Voters were turned away ... blah blah does anyone else not really care?

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so did you vote then?

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Is that your picture in your avi blondie?

guv;8546667

Is that your picture in your avi blondie?



I know what you're interested in, and it ain't Obama or Brown. :w00t:

I couldn't care less about the American election. People were all glued to their screens at the prospect of a different country having a black president. If Obama had been white he may not have been elected.

This is what affects our country therefore this is what I care about.

dont worry-I suspect another general election will happen later this year-nobody is in any position to deliver a strong government-none of the "huge" cuts and measures necessary will get through parliament because the others will just vote them down.

its lame duck time no matter whether its cameron,or brown.or milliband or whoever.

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maddogb;8546664

so did you vote then?



No i didnt.. i wanted to but then i dont really trust any of them and dont believe any of them would do what they promise.

guv;8546667

Is that your picture in your avi blondie?



Yep :-D

thrustmaster;8546676

I couldn't care less about the American election. People were all glued … I couldn't care less about the American election. People were all glued to their screens at the prospect of a different country having a black president. If Obama had been white he may not have been elected. This is what affects our country therefore this is what I care about.



It just felt like it was a part of history! Kids in the future will look back and be taught that in schools and i will be able to say yeah i was alive then!

But this general election is just not doing it for me im afraid. :?

maddogb;8546664

so did you vote then?



when i went to vote about 6.30 last night - queue out the door

3 generations of family in front of me - waited ages as 1 was down as postal vote - 3 werent on electoral list - 2 teenagers trying to vote - arguing with the guys that they should have been on list!!!

i was pzzed off -

then this morning - local council has been overturned - arghhhh
and local council - potholes - street lights - kids school etc:w00t:

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busy emailing my new mp regards how grants are spent - lining the pockets of consultants (my gripe - my fight)

Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the whole thing is a joke, how can we go force democracy on other countries when we cant even get it right ourselves? i say riots and protests if brown stays.

David = 9 million Votes
Gordon = 6 million Votes

How can he possibley stay in power and it still be a democracy, surely he would become a dictator?

Original Poster

I just feel that its a big farce.... People have tried to vote and as mentioned above been turned away etc. No one gets things right, its not planned properly and its just a big embarrasment! Its been dominating the news for weeks and i know i should care but im just not bothered in the slightest.... as long as the BNP dont get into power then its all good

http://www.mydavidcameron.com/images/seb1.jpg

mattbisme;8546699

Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the … Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the whole thing is a joke, how can we go force democracy on other countries when we cant even get it right ourselves? i say riots and protests if brown stays.David = 9 million VotesGordon = 6 million VotesHow can he possibley stay in power and it still be a democracy, surely he would become a dictator?


while I actually agree with you,it must be remembered that the conservatives are the only party who support this part of the constitution and dont want electoral reform-they cant cry foul now can they?

mattbisme;8546699

Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the … Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the whole thing is a joke, how can we go force democracy on other countries when we cant even get it right ourselves? i say riots and protests if brown stays.David = 9 million VotesGordon = 6 million VotesHow can he possibley stay in power and it still be a democracy, surely he would become a dictator?



So 15 million votes between them then.

How many adults reside in the UK? :thinking:

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/\ Pic above v. funny lol

Another thing i read and i dont know if its true .. David Cameron wants to bring back national service for all 16yr olds. Yeah good idea but surely they should send everyone who has an asbo or who has been arrested by the time they reach 16

With Democracy comes rules, don't you think those rules should be obeyed? Brown still has some cards to play.

Would you be saying that if it was a Tory Government with a Labour Opposition?

mattbisme;8546699

Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the … Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the whole thing is a joke, how can we go force democracy on other countries when we cant even get it right ourselves? i say riots and protests if brown stays.David = 9 million VotesGordon = 6 million VotesHow can he possibley stay in power and it still be a democracy, surely he would become a dictator?



Remember when Tony Blair stepped down and Brown became PM?
Most people and parties were calling for an election but we all know how stubborn Brown is.

Shambolic;8546717

So 15 million votes between them then.How many adults reside in the UK? … So 15 million votes between them then.How many adults reside in the UK? :thinking:




44 million votes I read, so you could say that whoever didnt bother to vote, were either happy with the current situation (LAB), or not bothered who governs.

i approximated values and missed out the other parties, my vote didnt go to either of them.

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splatsplatsplat;8546730

44 million votes I read, so you could say that whoever didnt bother to … 44 million votes I read, so you could say that whoever didnt bother to vote, were either happy with the current situation (LAB), or not bothered who governs.



Yep ... Happy with my mortgage payment going down down down and i would have voted Labour i think....

mattbisme;8546699

Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the … Cant help but feel a little miffed. the runner up is in charge and the whole thing is a joke, how can we go force democracy on other countries when we cant even get it right ourselves? i say riots and protests if brown stays.David = 9 million VotesGordon = 6 million VotesHow can he possibley stay in power and it still be a democracy, surely he would become a dictator?



like to know where you got those figures from but even at 9million votes thats less than 20% of the population how can a man rule the country with so little support?
The tories claim that the vote signals the population want a change in government, my own opinion is that labour automatically get he 10 million plus non voters, if they really wanted change they would of voted!

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no...

Original Poster

So i guess by all your responses and facts and figures that you do all care. So im just the only one on my little planet of "oblivious" :oops:

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barky;8546682

dont worry-I suspect another general election will happen later this … dont worry-I suspect another general election will happen later this year-nobody is in any position to deliver a strong government-none of the "huge" cuts and measures necessary will get through parliament because the others will just vote them down.its lame duck time no matter whether its cameron,or brown.or milliband or whoever.



Aggh see I'll eat my words I had more faith in the electorate no not hang parliament, either Labour or Tory, I knew Lib dem would be an epic fail.

I predict carnage and like you another election within the year, too much in fighting and it will wreck our reputation, as the election is already being reported as pretty shambolic across the world, so I am told................

Smaybelline;8546722

Another thing i read and i dont know if its true .. David Cameron wants … Another thing i read and i dont know if its true .. David Cameron wants to bring back national service for all 16yr olds. Yeah good idea but surely they should send everyone who has an asbo or who has been arrested by the time they reach 16



Yeah good idea not.............criminals on the front line where being able to trust your colleagues with your life, unpredicatble criminals, nicking what precious rations they have, going gung ho, not listening to orders, yeah that will work:roll:

And no it wasn't true.

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maddogb;8546747

like to know where you got those figures from but even at 9million votes … like to know where you got those figures from but even at 9million votes thats less than 20% of the population how can a man rule the country with so little support?The tories claim that the vote signals the population want a change in government, my own opinion is that labour automatically get he 10 million plus non voters, if they really wanted change they would of voted!


only 44 Million registered voters so with a 60% turnout those figures are accurate (cant believe we have 26 million under 18 years old)!

tories 2010 - 37% of votes cast

labour 2005 - 35% of votes cast

we are now in a nightmare scenario which may mean the votes of 4 Sinn Fein MPs dictate what bills get passed (assuming LD side with labour) :w00t:

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csiman;8546757

only 44 Million registered voters so with a 60% turnout those figures are … only 44 Million registered voters so with a 60% turnout those figures are accuratetories 2010 - 37% of votes castlabour 2005 - 35% of votes castwe are now in a nightmare scenario which may mean the votes of 4 Sinn Fein MPs dictate what bills get passed (assuming LD side with labour) :w00t:

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Smaybelline;8546736

Yep ... Happy with my mortgage payment going down down down and i would … Yep ... Happy with my mortgage payment going down down down and i would have voted Labour i think....


whoever gets in, mortgage rates are only going one way - UP UP UP

the same for income tax, stealth taxes, VAT, NI etc etc

Sinn Fein haven't bothered to exercise their right to vote in the past

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Smaybelline;8546705

I just feel that its a big farce.... People have tried to vote and as … I just feel that its a big farce.... People have tried to vote and as mentioned above been turned away etc. No one gets things right, its not planned properly and its just a big embarrasment! Its been dominating the news for weeks and i know i should care but im just not bothered in the slightest.... as long as the BNP dont get into power then its all good


15 hours to vote and people turn up at 9:50pm! They only have themselves to blame.

csiman;8546767

whoever gets in, mortgage rates are only going one way - UP UP UPthe same … whoever gets in, mortgage rates are only going one way - UP UP UPthe same for income tax, stealth taxes, VAT, NI etc etc



The sad but necessary truth.

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pipsqueak;8546774

Sinn Fein haven't bothered to exercise their right to vote in the past


you can bet they will now!

beats me how people vote for a politician who never bothers to go to vote though anyway :w00t:

csiman;8546757

only 44 Million registered voters so with a 60% turnout those figures are … only 44 Million registered voters so with a 60% turnout those figures are accurate (cant believe we have 26 million under 18 years old)!tories 2010 - 37% of votes castlabour 2005 - 35% of votes castwe are now in a nightmare scenario which may mean the votes of 4 Sinn Fein MPs dictate what bills get passed (assuming LD side with labour) :w00t:




still waking up here but isn't 37% of 44mill approx 15 million?

maddogb;8546747

like to know where you got those figures from but even at 9million votes … like to know where you got those figures from but even at 9million votes thats less than 20% of the population how can a man rule the country with so little support?The tories claim that the vote signals the population want a change in government, my own opinion is that labour automatically get he 10 million plus non voters, if they really wanted change they would of voted!



from the bbc breakfast, newsbeat and XFM news this morning.

does that include the hundreds of people that were turned away?

personally i think it should be re-run and we should atleast check a persons age to stop any under age voters. just becouse they have a voting card we shouldnt assume they are 18.
we dont assume someone is over 18 just because they have a credit card when buying alcohol.

tinkerbell28;8546754

Aggh see I'll eat my words I had more faith in the electorate no not hang … Aggh see I'll eat my words I had more faith in the electorate no not hang parliament, either Labour or Tory, I knew Lib dem would be an epic fail.I predict carnage and like you another election within the year, too much in fighting and it will wreck our reputation, as the election is already being reported as pretty shambolic across the world, so I am told................Yeah good idea not.............criminals on the front line where being able to trust your colleagues with your life, unpredicatble criminals, nicking what precious rations they have, going gung ho, not listening to orders, yeah that will work:roll:And no it wasn't true.



I agree with you tink-what I had said in previous threads about a hung parliament being a good thing was based on my belief that clegg would get about 80 seats-that hasnt happened and we have a total mess.

Some of the scenarios the experts are discussing on tv are ridiculous-plaid cymru with 3 seats could support cameron as long as no cuts are made in wales? the dup with 6 seats could do the same in ireland?

I actually believe that cameron should refuse to deal with anyone,and at the next election tell the public that he stuck by his principles and refused to deal-the public may respect that best.

the 36 seats still to count are now vital to what happens

maddogb;8546784

still waking up here but isn't 37% of 44mill approx 15 million?



If it is a 60% turnout there would have been 26,400,000 votes cast

csiman;8546776

15 hours to vote and people turn up at 9:50pm! They only have themselves … 15 hours to vote and people turn up at 9:50pm! They only have themselves to blame.



it cases like that yes they are fools, but not when people queue from 830pm and still get turned away.

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mattbisme;8546800

it cases like that yes they are fools, but not when people queue from 830 … it cases like that yes they are fools, but not when people queue from 830 and still get turned away.


if that was the case then I agree but reports I saw were that lots of students were turning up with 10 minutes left.

update,

10.1 million for conservative, 7 million for brown and 6 million for clegg.

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mattbisme;8546793

from the bbc breakfast, newsbeat and XFM news this morning.does that … from the bbc breakfast, newsbeat and XFM news this morning.does that include the hundreds of people that were turned away?personally i think it should be re-run and we should atleast check a persons age to stop any under age voters. just becouse they have a voting card we shouldnt assume they are 18. we dont assume someone is over 18 just because they have a credit card when buying alcohol.


1. hundreds of people isnt a factor when it comes to 30 million votes cast. We dont need to spend another £100 Million on another election! :w00t:

2. You dont get a voting card without being on the electoral role. You dont get on that unless you are 18+:?

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barky;8546794

I agree with you tink-what I had said in previous threads about a hung … I agree with you tink-what I had said in previous threads about a hung parliament being a good thing was based on my belief that clegg would get about 80 seats-that hasnt happened and we have a total mess.Some of the scenarios the experts are discussing on tv are ridiculous-plaid cymru with 3 seats could support cameron as long as no cuts are made in wales? the dup with 6 seats could do the same in ireland?I actually believe that cameron should refuse to deal with anyone,and at the next election tell the public that he stuck by his principles and refused to deal-the public may respect that best.the 36 seats still to count are now vital to what happens



Totally agree and what really, really makes me cross, is a party that have basically failed (Lib dems) could come to power.

This is not going to go well, and if there is a lot of scrapping in the mess and markets and the world starts loosing faith in us. The Tories will end up getting a clean sweep next time.

Toughie, I am lol'ing though on the last tv debate GB said he will not form an alliance with either the lib dems or Tories due to their policies on cutting CTC, lets just see if he holds on to that now he could possibly stay in power, nah ofc he won't.

Then all the labour faithful will know he lied and will realise the lib dems will hit them where it hurts, in the tax credits for most earners at least Tory were only targetting high earners.............


I predict a riot!

maddogb;8546784

still waking up here but isn't 37% of 44mill approx 15 million?



Only a 60% turnout I think?

tinkerbell28;8546754

Aggh see I'll eat my words I had more faith in the electorate no not hang … Aggh see I'll eat my words I had more faith in the electorate no not hang parliament, either Labour or Tory, I knew Lib dem would be an epic fail.I predict carnage and like you another election within the year, too much in fighting and it will wreck our reputation, as the election is already being reported as pretty shambolic across the world, so I am told................Yeah good idea not.............criminals on the front line where being able to trust your colleagues with your life, unpredicatble criminals, nicking what precious rations they have, going gung ho, not listening to orders, yeah that will work:roll:And no it wasn't true.




Who me?

Let's face it, the politicians reap what they sow.

Their fraudulent expenses claims, and subsequent claims for legal aid sums up Broken Britain.
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