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    I'm gonna build my very first pc. Some advice required.

    Ok, i'm still considering on whether or not I should build or not. This is gonna be a gaming rig. I've done some research on what pc components are what and what I need. Just need some advice on whether this will work out or not.
    (oh btw, I don't need a harddrive as this will carry on from my old pc, as well as speaker and monitor). Here's what I have in mind:

    1) 2GB Geil from overclockers - £58.74 (roughly £60)
    2) Asus p5w DH deluxe wifi etc. - £117.21 (roughly £120)
    3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £148.95 (roughly £150)
    4) CoolerMaster Igreen 500W - £52.05 (roughly £55)
    5) Antec P180 Silver Aluminium Midtower Case - £79.99 (roughly £80)
    6) Point Of View 8800 GTS 320mb - £173.85 (roughly £175)

    Total = £640 roughly

    Am I missing something? I'm not an overclocker because I don't have the knowledge and my monitor maximum is 1024 by 768 (found through properties, settings). Is this a good price? Can it be beaten by saving a bit here and there? Just need some opinions please thanks ;-) . (budget is about £640 anyway)

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    my monitor maximum is 1024 by 768 (found through properties, settings)



    This is limited by the monitor driver not the monitor...

    TFTs have a native resolution which is the best resolution for the size of the screen.

    CRT monitors are more flexible but obviously different resolutions will look better on different size screens.

    i think thats fine
    the only thing I would think twice is the coolermaster psu
    with that budget i think you can get antec brand which would probably fit better in p180?
    i never used coolermaster before so cant judge it performance wise
    Ive used an antec but it died on me after 2 years
    Ive used hyper type R but the noise were killing me.. its ok if not on load but with high load the noise is unbearable with high pitch sound.
    Im now using OCZ one.. great item all around

    and do check the Geil memory before hand
    with compatibility problems etc
    Im sure you can get corsair ones around the same price??

    oh yes all the things u mentioned can be bought off ebuyer
    with google check out ordering separately will save u a further at least £40

    current deal on scan
    they are selling E6600 for £133
    and
    8800 GTS 320mb for £160+
    they also have corsair for around £90 but none in stock

    microdirect is selling the same corsair ram for £79
    hope that helps

    Original Poster

    Very much thx guys. Rep to all. (I think i'm giving out too much for one week. Must limit XD)

    if you are not a overclocker

    then i would advise against spending so much on a mobo
    u can get great ones for around £70 saving £50 which can go on something else!

    The forums at Tom's Hardware Guide are pretty good for a builder: ]http//to…uk/

    As for your build, while I assume you are carrying forward your other peripherals (mouse, keyboard) you haven't allocated an operating system. That's a good mobo for an overclocking rig, and I use that processor myself. YOu should look into memory/motherboard compatibility before you buy (ran afoul of that myself with some legacy memory I had). You might also getting a better cooling fan for the processor if you are overclocking - stock's OK for a start but you can do a lot better.

    Why are you spending so much on the GFX card?

    When the maximum display for your monitor is 1024 by 768?

    I wouldn't get a budget PSU either, You can get an Enermax etc for that price, Mobo is also very expensive!

    1) 2GB Geil from overclockers - £58.74 (roughly £60)



    Make sure this is PC6400 ram.

    2) Asus p5w DH deluxe wifi etc. - £117.21 (roughly £120)



    Swap this for the Asus P5N-E SLI, costing around £50 less and just as good. Then buy a wireless adaptor. The wireless on the P5W is shocking in range and strength.

    3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £148.95 (roughly £150)4) CoolerMaster Igreen 5 … 3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £148.95 (roughly £150)4) CoolerMaster Igreen 500W - £52.05 (roughly £55)5) Antec P180 Silver Aluminium Midtower Case - £79.99 (roughly £80)6) Point Of View 8800 GTS 320mb - £173.85 (roughly £175)



    I am not a gamer so cannot comment on the gfx card, but I would personally swap the PSU for either a Corsair 520W or a Tagan Modular 580 or similar. Much better PSU in my experience.

    Nice machine though.

    Original Poster

    Change of specs:
    1) 2GB Geil PC6400 from overclockers - £58.74 (roughly £60)
    2) Asus P5N-E Sli 650i ATX - £68.43 (roughly £70) *
    3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £133 (roughly £135)
    4a) Antec NEO HE500GB 500W - £59.99 (roughly £60) *
    OR
    4b) Corsair HX Series 520 - £67.33 (roughly £70) *
    5) Antec P180 Silver Aluminium Midtower Case - £79.99 (roughly £80)
    6) Innovision GeForce 7900GS 256MB DDR3 - £87.05 (roughly £90) *

    * means changed
    New total: £495 - £505

    (looking good so far)

    i believe the x1950 pro is better than a 7900gs for roughly the same price

    correct me if im wrong!

    Original Poster

    Checked a bit on it. I see that with some games, the x1950pro is better than 7900gs but at some, it's vice versa. Some people say that the x1950 pro heats up quite a bit due to it's fairly large size.

    Original Poster

    Looks like the Geil 2gb ain't on the compatability list (the 512mb is, but not the 1gb sticks). Guess i'm gonna have to change it.

    Original Poster

    Looks like the Geil 2gb ain't on the compatability list (the 512mb is, but not the 1gb sticks). Guess i'm gonna have to change it.

    EDIT: actually, been hearing that it is possible to run it in some forums. (i.e. increase voltage - use black slots, enter "codes?" manually)

    Also take a look at the pcmech (build you own) forums :

    ]http//fo…=43

    One thing, the older harddrive you've got, is that sata ?

    Original Poster

    It's IDE. found out that it has 2 ide ports so no probs there.

    Oh, and I have a small question to add:with that 500W, is that an overkill? If it is, is it possible to reduce the wattage manually, or does it auto do it for me?

    Original Poster

    Antec 500W WILL have some issues, so will have to swap for the corsair one.

    1) 2GB Geil PC6400 from overclockers - £58.74 (roughly £60)
    2) Asus P5N-E Sli 650i ATX - £68.43 (roughly £70)
    3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £133 (roughly £135)
    4) Corsair HX Series 520 - £67.33 (roughly £70)
    5) Antec P180 Silver Aluminium Midtower Case - £79.99 (roughly £80)
    6a) Innovision GeForce 7900GS 256MB DDR3 - £87.05 (roughly £90)
    OR
    6b) Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB 256MB DDR3 - £96.94 (roughly £100)

    Price: £505

    There are also problems with memory for the mobo on that you (or I) need to be careful (the compatability list at asus.com is not good enough) that if I buy, I must be prepared to manually set everything. This is gonna be troublesome...
    Also on heating problems, but I think my Antec p180 will do the cooling well.

    Ok nearly all decided. Now on to the graphics, it's either 7900GS or X1950pro. The ati one looks the favourite for performance, the 7900GS for price but the mobo is a Nvidia chipset for Sli. Can this thing still work for Crossfire?

    (also need answer for question from my post from b4. Thx for those who answered. Googling takes me nowhere and the forums are great.)

    Oh, and I have a small question to add:with that 500W, is that an … Oh, and I have a small question to add:with that 500W, is that an overkill? If it is, is it possible to reduce the wattage manually, or does it auto do it for me?



    The PSU will only give the motherboard the amount of juice it needs. With a decent GFX card inside that machine a 500W will be plenty, but will give you room to add more components if you decide to later on down the line.

    There are also problems with memory for the mobo on that you (or I) need … There are also problems with memory for the mobo on that you (or I) need to be careful (the compatability list at asus.com is not good enough) that if I buy, I must be prepared to manually set everything. This is gonna be troublesome...



    Im running 4GB of the Geil PC6400 on the same motherboard (Asus P5N-E SLI) with no problems at all. Yes you need to set the memory voltage and timings, but its only once. Cant see why you think it would be troublesome. 2 minutes in the bios.

    Besides pound for pound its the best value ram out there.

    500w is not an overkill
    mine a 850w
    ... as simeon_g mentioned psu will only use as much as pc needs
    so if your pc only needs 300w it will only supply 300w
    I see that your cost went £100 down
    thats good (^-^)v
    as for your gfx choice
    its true some games are better with ati some with nvidia
    unless you are going for sli, you should consider which games are you playing
    Im currently using x800 then again I dont play games on pc

    considering your monitor is not hard core
    both should be fine on highest setting on any games atm

    I need say a cheap SATAII harddrive would be the next best bet, Access times are a hell of a lot quicker!

    They are pretty cheap, I paid £50 for 250gb and that was a year ago.

    Original Poster

    Wow. Ok, i'm actually looking forward to that Starcraft 2 game and a refresh on the 8000 series is apparently gonna come out in october. I think I know exactly what to do now. I might do the x1950pro setup and then at october, depending on what happens until then, upgrade to a DX10 card. Thx for the help guys.



    On second thought, found a refresh on the p180 case. The revision for £5 is a steal. Also finally discovered that DX10 games may have issues with DX9 cards, so back to the drawing borad :P...


    Near 99% final design:

    1) 2GB Geil PC6400 from overclockers - £58.74 (roughly £60)
    2) Asus P5N-E Sli 650i ATX - £68.43 (roughly £70)
    3) Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £133 (roughly £135)
    4) Corsair HX Series 520 - £67.33 (roughly £70)
    5) Antec P182 Gun black finish - £84.43 (roughly £85)
    6a) Innovision GeForce 7900GS 256MB DDR3 - £87.05 (roughly £90)
    OR
    6b) Sapphire X1950Pro 256MB 256MB DDR3 - £96.94 (roughly £100)
    OR
    6c) Innovision 3D 8600GTS 256MB - £115.85 (roughly £120)

    Price: £510 - £520 - £540
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