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    im thinking of blowing around £300 on a fish tank any tips anyone?

    this is what im thinking of buying
    ebay item
    120297406249

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    fish are expensive to keep healthy.

    Banned

    Looks nice.

    Make sure you give it a while to mature before you introduce an fish!

    I'd love one of those - as long as someone did all the cleaning and changing the water etc. (Esp marine)

    ross123540;2833129

    fish are expensive to keep healthy.



    No they are not !!!!
    I have a 4 foot Juwel fishtank for tropical fish
    The tanks come with integrated filters and pumps.
    All you do is replace/clean the various layers of filters ever so often.
    Obviously feed the fish, but that is about it.

    If you are new to this then I would recomend Juwel.
    Do a search on fleabay to give you some idea.....you will get a really good sized NEW Juwel for your £300 :thumbsup:

    make sure you really want one, i bought a 200 litre corner tank and it looks nice but i prefer my 60l tank any day.

    not bad, I don't like the wooden panelling though. looks to 1990s.

    aquariumsdelivered.co.uk/cat…og/
    this site is very good as they deliver it yo you and te prices are very reasonable, i got mine from there and they said it had a small dint in it so they knocked 20% off it.

    Ive got a tropical set up and a cold water set up. Make sure you test the water regular. It is very easy to get a bacterial infection etc, which can wipe out lots of fish! I know i have recently lost quite a few Zebra Danos due to me introducing a new fish which must have been unwell. I have a planted set up with the following fish,,,
    Next year were going for to build a pond for coy carp.
    They are very relaxing, i dont find them expensive tbh
    Just make sure you clean, treat, feed, and enjoy.




    I trust a place called maidenhead aquatics, there advice is second to none .

    Original Poster

    thanks for links
    i like this one too
    aquariumsdelivered.co.uk/cat…tml
    can be no bigger than 104cm as its to fit into an alcove

    thts a quality tank, i like the one with the cabinet that is the ful size of the tank aswell

    more exspensive though

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    Cluffy321;2833481

    thts a quality tank, i like the one with the cabinet that is the ful size … thts a quality tank, i like the one with the cabinet that is the ful size of the tank aswell



    yeah and it comes with external filter,heater etc :thumbsup:
    but i think i prefer the design of the ebay tank i like the bow front glass
    may see how much it goes up to in auction,do u think the external filter they sell half price with the tank is a good deal?
    i would like a tropical community tank
    does sand go to look awful in a tank?

    You should buy an air pump for it to give your fish a good supply of oxygen as it looks like this is not included. Other than that, you can make it look better and more interesting for your fish by adding some rocks/plants to it (on top of the gravel).

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    black gerbil1;2833311

    not bad, I don't like the wooden panelling though. looks to 1990s.



    is it?
    i thought it looked modern :?
    bit worried about that now lol
    am i gwenny lol :-D

    i bought from tht site and the filter you get with it is quality, i have sand in mine nd it looks ace although i do like small gravel aswell

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    guv;2833145

    Looks nice.Make sure you give it a while to mature before you introduce … Looks nice.Make sure you give it a while to mature before you introduce an fish!I'd love one of those - as long as someone did all the cleaning and changing the water etc. (Esp marine)



    from what i remember from keeping fish before i think u only change 1/4 of the water

    Ignore the advice from guv - read up on as much as you can before you even entertain the thought of keeping tropical fish - I posted some advice in this thread from when I started.

    hotukdeals.com/ite…e=3

    I looked through literally 20 forums & found the best one to sign up to & ask questions in was:

    tropicalfish.site5.com/tfc/

    This is the best (and most active) by far.

    You will get a LOT of bad advice, from forums & from fish shops - but you will overcome this by doing a lot of research before hand (such as the earlier advice of just leaving your tank to run for a week - that will do nothing as you need a source of Ammonia in your tank to "grow" the Ammonia eating bacteria to kick off your cycle). You can cycle the tank with fish in it, but it does them a great deal of damage - and they will have greatly shortened life spans.

    You need to also look up Fishless cycling (using pure Ammonia to cycle your tank to build up the required bacteria).


    Here is the guide I wrote to cycling my tank:


    I got my Ammonia from Homebase for £1.99.

    Try to get some existing media from a member on here, a friend or a LFS (local fish store) - this will greatly speed up the Cycling process.

    You also NEED an API Master test kit (£18 from Ebay) - these are a lot better than the stick tests, and although twice as expensive, you get around 800 tests, while a 20 stick pack will cost you about £10 (and nowhere near as good)

    I put about 20 drops of Ammonia in the tank, left an hour, then tested the levels. From this I worked out how much 5ppm was, and put the rest in.

    Test the Ammonia daily for a drop in levels (this is good as it means your Ammonia eating bacteria are developing). Keep the level of Ammonia around 5ppm, and you should notice that it drops from 5ppm to 0ppm within 24 hours.

    Your Nitrites will also start to appear, and peak at >5ppm, these will take a while to get rid of . As before, keep feeding your tank Ammonia to keep your Ammonia eating bacteria alive.

    A basic Nitrogen cycle looks like this.

    Ammonia -> Nitrites -> Nitrates

    Ammonia is basically fish waste, so when doing a fishless cycle, your mimicking that fish are actually in your tank, but without doing any damage to them & putting them through the nasty cycle time.

    The Ammonia eating bacteria will turn the Ammonia to Nitrites, then Nitrite eating bacteria will develop & turn this to Nitrates.

    Nitrates are a lot less harmful to your fish than the other two, and this is regulated by performing frequent water changes (keep this level
    So in summary....

    Feed your tank with some Ammonia (not too much - use a measuring tool or a pipette).

    Leave an hour, then test.

    Work out how much more you need to put in to get the level to 5ppm (it's around 50 drops for me, in a 70L tank).

    Measure this Ammonia each day until you notice a drop, you should then test for Nitrites (as the "missing" ammonia should have been converted to Nitrite).

    Top up your Ammonia.

    Keep testing these two levels until your Nitrite level peaks (over 5ppm).

    When this happens, cut your ammonia levels to around 3ppm, and test both daily until the day arrives when both Ammonia & Nitrite are converted to 0ppm within 24 hours - this means your cycle is complete http://www.tropicalfish.site5.com/ubb/smile.gif

    Check your Nitrate levels, if above 40ppm, do a big water change (30-80%), to get these down.

    If your not getting fish right away (say both turn to 0ppm on a Tuesday, and you wont get fish til the Saturday), keep adding the 3ppm of Ammonia to your tank until 24 hours before you put your fish in (this keeps all the bacteria alive).

    If I've missed anything, I'm sure someone will comment - great bunch of people on here http://www.tropicalfish.site5.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

    The good thing about a fishless cycle is that when complete, you can fully stock your tank, as all the bacteria are there from the start - if you only add a couple per week, the bacteria wont get the same amount of Ammonia you have been adding, so will die off to the level where it only needs to cope with 2 fish.

    This may cause a "mini cycle" when you add more fish, as your bacteria will need to build up again



    Either stay away from livebearers (Mollies, Guppies, Platy's etc) - or get one sex only. They have WAYYYYY too many fry, I was told that most of them would get eaten, but I have 100's of the little fish that I keep having to take to the fish shop !! The problem is that the bacteria cannot keep up with the amount of waste all the fish are producing, so the Nitrite levels rise, killing a load of the fish.....

    I got a 70L tank to start out with (with stand, heater & filter), for £40 off Ebay - and I'm looking to go bigger already http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/234409/im-thinking-of-blowing-around-300-o/../../214506/any-advice-on-keeping-tropical-fish/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

    Any questions, let me know, as it's all still fresh to starting out from new !

    i have a juwel 60L and a vision 180.
    the vision is lovely as it's bow fronted. although the juwel does come with everything you need as in heater filter ets we did get an external filter too as found that the juwel filter wasn't really up to the job.
    live bearers like guppies and mollies are bit hits in this house and we are not over run with babies although you do start to get problems with in breeding eventually if you don't introduce new ones now n then.
    good luck

    try looking on the PFK site you will get alot of advice there, thts practical fish keeping btw

    Original Poster

    thanks everyone 4 advice
    and to chrisuk for taking the time to write all the info

    Original Poster

    does anyone else think the 1st tank looks 90s?

    I'd prefer a beech cabinet - but thats personal taste, I dont like dark wood !!

    I "may" be selling mine in the near future to upgrade, tank with silver stand.

    I'd also avoid live bearers (guppies, mollies, platy's etc) - i went down this route as they are easy fish, but you are soon over run with fry !!

    I was told that as i had a community tank, they would all get eaten - but I had to take another 30-40 down to the fish shop last week to get rid. If your tank becomes over populated, your bacteria cannot cope with the increased waste, and i had a few ammonia/Nitrite deaths as a result.

    Cleared the population down & water is safe again.

    Also, try to get as big of a tank as you can. With a small tank, any changes in the water will have big impacts on the fish, while a larger tank will "absorb" any changes of the same quantity.

    Another thing - if your unsure on anything, just ask

    The forum i posted in the other link is the best by far mate - i tried around 10 forums & that one was the best for advice by far.

    Good luck & enjoy

    Yeah Mines Beech Cabinet one, but depends if your room is dark wood and the tank will match.
    Good Advice from Chris, My water testing kit costs 20 quid and I wouldnt be without it. Its a good indication of whats going on in your tank and Ive got co2 canister.

    I use practical fishkeeping for my advice.

    iv just got another new tank the weekend 4ft but i had to shut down my 3ft and my 2x 1ft i use for breeding. i got 4 plecs im breeding at the mo as my local fish shop gives £3.75 each for them but he does buy my fry off me all the time so i get a fair deal from him but its a great hobby i love it

    willber;2834284

    iv just got another new tank the weekend 4ft but i had to shut down my … iv just got another new tank the weekend 4ft but i had to shut down my 3ft and my 2x 1ft i use for breeding. i got 4 plecs im breeding at the mo as my local fish shop gives £3.75 each for them but he does buy my fry off me all the time so i get a fair deal from him but its a great hobby i love it




    I love Plecs - I have 2 x BN Plecs at the mo, I want a big tank with Zebra Plecs

    Congrats on some successful plec breeding !!

    Original Poster

    have not really got any furniture as such in the front room as we have 2 big 3 seaters
    but i have walnut colour skirting boards and flooring
    one alcove has the tv in and the other alcove is where i want to put the fish tank a 40" tank is the biggest tank i could get
    chis did u look at the filter and heater u can buy half price if i won the tank do u think they are good value for money and are adequete 4 the tank?

    would any body be interested in posting pics of there tanks if we started a thread let me no and i will start one later with my tanks when i get home tonight

    Original Poster

    i would be interested in seeing pics for some ideas

    thts what pfk is basically, i would do tht although i may be selling my tank in the near futur aswell

    Original Poster

    1o mins left what should i stick on it?

    u got the tank then mate

    Original Poster

    yep good price i think
    bought the external filter and the heater too soo comes to £232.68 delivered for everything
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