Implications of property with Conservatory with no planning permission

Hi everyone!

Just wanted your thoughts on the possible implications of a property we are considering to buy which has a Conservatory built in 2007 but has no planning permission! The property itself is around 12 years old.
Seller seemed to be quite sensible couple but now found this after going through the HIP and from the documentations I have received from the Solicitors today.
I intend to speak to the Solicitors and the Estate Agents of the seller regarding it tomorrow morning.
Anyone with any ideas would be very helpful.
Can I have a planning permission now from the Council? As I personally think that will reduce the price of the house by at least 10-15K if we have to knock it off!

Thanks in advance.

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You can get retrospective PP, but does it actually need PP?

thesaint;6491039

You can get retrospective PP, but does it actually need PP?



wAS THERE PREVIOUSLY SOME STRUCTURE THERE BEFORE. If so , so long as the conservatory was built within the same are it wouldnt necessarily need PP. Had problem with neighbour building something but was allowed as there had once been a structure there

call your local authority planning department and ask them, as saint pointed out you may not actually need pp for it. It will depend on whether or not the property has been extended in other areas too and how big the conservatory is etc

must be a big conservatory or in a conservation area? as a property seller they can take out indemnity insurance as well as seeking retrospective planning - discuss with your solicitor, maybe you can negotiate a discount for the time this will take

Original Poster

The reason why I asked, was because recently my in-laws tried to get a conservatory at their place and unfortunately the size they wanted was rejected by the council! And other than a conservatory coming at the site...there was no other structural changes coming about.
The conservatory which I am talking about is not big at all (size 3x4m) but a decent size room and the property is not in a conservatory area at all. I have seen a few other neighbouring properties and all seem to have a conservatory of nearly the same size.
Is it not true that you need to have planning permission to bring about any changes to the outside of the property?

Thanks for the all replies. Well appreciated.

If no-one objects for a certain number of years, i am unsure how many, then you don't need planning permission.

From the sounds of it you may well not have need pp anyway but if there's any doubt then the local councils planning department usually require you to put your plans in writing, with size of the conservatory etc.
If you are planning on buying this property then I would suggest that you get the vendors to contact the planning department and get written confirmation that its above board.
No, you don't always need planning permission to put a conservatory up

Conservatory doesn't need planning permission subject to conditions ]here. Google is very clever

Beat me to it coconuts

drmsa;6491189
and the property is not in a conservatory area at all.


Never heard of one of them. :-D

drmsa;6491189
and the property is not in a conservatory area at all.
Is it not true that you need to have planning permission to bring about any changes to the outside of the property?

Thanks for the all replies. Well appreciated.


It might be within the "permitted development", so no PP needed.

Original Poster

Marina;6491267

Conservatory doesn't need planning permission subject to conditions … Conservatory doesn't need planning permission subject to conditions ]here. Google is very clever :)Beat me to it coconuts



Mecoconuts;6491262

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en/1115315205815.html … http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en/1115315205815.html :thumbsup:



That was extremely helpful. Thanks once again.

You wont need planning permission on a 3x4 conservatory ,the only exception will be if it has no internal door between the propery and conservatory or a radiator installed if it does then it comes under planning regs, this is what the council told us when we had ours done

EDIT: just read the link above seems it mayhave changed since we have had it done , i would double check withthe council if it has a radiator or no internal doors just in case

Original Poster

[QUOTE=thesaint;6491276]Never heard of one of them. :-D


I am sorry I actually meant CONSERVATION area.

peodude;6491217

If no-one objects for a certain number of years, i am unsure how many, … If no-one objects for a certain number of years, i am unsure how many, then you don't need planning permission.



Found it, building and engineering works are lawful after 4 years without enforcement action, residential uses 4 years all other uses 10 years. No time bar on listed building alterations.

thesaint;6491039

You can get retrospective PP, but does it actually need PP?



depends on the size, if it exceeds a certain size it will need pp

We bought a couple of years ago and there was no planning permission for the conservatory plus they'd built over the drain. Solicitor said it was no big deal but insisted the sellers paid for an indemnity insurance policy which in the event of any problems covers us financially - see if anything like that is a possible solution

i did think and i was only think ........ that the restricitions on extentions to the rear of properites and the need for planning permission on some sqft sizes had been relaxed as long as it was single story - best bet is indemnity insurance that your seller should offer to pay this will cover you if it needs to be taken down

A chap round our way built a house recently...........to the cost of about £400,000 but decided to make it a foot taller and added 2 extra rooms without permission. He then put in retrospective Planning Permission.

The tale ended with him having to rip it down. Think he was depressed after that. lol

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Syzable;6498065

A chap round our way built a house recently...........to the cost of … A chap round our way built a house recently...........to the cost of about £400,000 but decided to make it a foot taller and added 2 extra rooms without permission. He then put in retrospective Planning Permission.The tale ended with him having to rip it down. Think he was depressed after that. lol



What?? Did he really have to rip the whole house down, surely just change it back to the original plan , could you enlighten us?

goldmax;6498148

What?? Did he really have to rip the whole house down, surely just change … What?? Did he really have to rip the whole house down, surely just change it back to the original plan , could you enlighten us?



He had to rip out the 1st floor completely and also remove the laundry room and entrance room from the ground floor. It dragged on for about 4 years with appeals and court etc.

It's finished now but he lost a lot of money.

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OP you should speak to a planning officer, get it in writing cos they are always changing their minds and behave like little Hitlers
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