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    Intel fined: Cheating *******

    By offering secret rebate to manufacturers for exclusive use of their chips in PC.

    I wish Intel is fined out of it existence.

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    European Union regulators levied a record 1.06 billion-euro ($1.45 billion) fine against Intel Corp., the world’s biggest computer-chip maker, and ordered the company to stop using illegal rebates to thwart competitors.
    bloomberg.com/app…ome

    Which is why I use AMD

    AMD for me

    I wish Intel is fined out of it existence.



    TBH if we didn't have at least 2 big boys when it came to processors and processing power, we'd have no competition and thus probably go back on ourselves at least a couple of years, if not more.

    intel for me
    Probably because of this

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    emasu;5201936

    TBH if we didn't have at least 2 big boys when it came to processors and … TBH if we didn't have at least 2 big boys when it came to processors and processing power, we'd have no competition and thus probably go back on ourselves at least a couple of years, if not more.



    AMD for me

    btw this statistic is absolutely shocking

    "Last year, Intel made 80.5% of all the microprocessors in PCs, while AMD made 12%. "

    lumoruk;5202393

    AMD for mebtw this statistic is absolutely shocking"Last year, Intel made … AMD for mebtw this statistic is absolutely shocking"Last year, Intel made 80.5% of all the microprocessors in PCs, while AMD made 12%. "



    why is it shocking?

    thing is, the whole point of this is to recognise that without competition we as consumers suffer and the big question is if the businesses were swapped would amd have done the same?

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    Cluffy321;5202473

    why is it shocking?



    AMD is intel's main competitor but only managed 12% of the market because of Intel's anti competitive behaviour :?

    lumoruk;5203440

    AMD is intel's main competitor but only managed 12% of the market because … AMD is intel's main competitor but only managed 12% of the market because of Intel's anti competitive behaviour :?



    oh right i got that just wasnt as shocked

    Whenever i've built a system i've used AMD for price. Tbh though, they suck compared to Intel. Saying that though i'm still running an Athlon Barton chip that handles Vista quite well. Not bad for something about 5 years old :lol:

    lumoruk;5203440

    AMD is intel's main competitor but only managed 12% of the market because … AMD is intel's main competitor but only managed 12% of the market because of Intel's anti competitive behaviour :?



    Plus the fact they make far better processors - since the introduction of the Pentium-m their mobile processors have been far better than anything AMD can offer, Core Duo was solid while Core 2 Quad brought quad core to the masses, Atom has had mass market success in netbooks and for desktop performance the Core i7 is untouchable. The best AMD can do is compete with some of the older Core 2 Quads.

    AMD were on top for a good while with the AMD64's but they've not been able to produce anything particularly good since then. While Intel have engaged in anti-competitive practices (more during their netburst days) most of the reason for AMD having such a small marketshare now is they underestimated Intel and failed to capitalise on the success of the AMD64.

    I'll go with whatever processor is better for my needs, I did have a few AMD64 systems previously but right now it's all Intel as each of the processors is better than its AMD counterpart (if it even has one)

    John

    Johnmcl7;5205608

    Plus the fact they make far better processors - since the introduction of … Plus the fact they make far better processors - since the introduction of the Pentium-m their mobile processors have been far better than anything AMD can offer, Core Duo was solid while Core 2 Quad brought quad core to the masses, Atom has had mass market success in netbooks and for desktop performance the Core i7 is untouchable. The best AMD can do is compete with some of the older Core 2 Quads.AMD were on top for a good while with the AMD64's but they've not been able to produce anything particularly good since then. While Intel have engaged in anti-competitive practices (more during their netburst days) most of the reason for AMD having such a small marketshare now is they underestimated Intel and failed to capitalise on the success of the AMD64.I'll go with whatever processor is better for my needs, I did have a few AMD64 systems previously but right now it's all Intel as each of the processors is better than its AMD counterpart (if it even has one)John



    you are missing a point big time here.
    the alleged offenses started well before c2d and c2q.
    The reason intel was able to actually survive the onslaught from the original athlons and x64athlons where it would have sold very few of its p3 and early p4 chips was down to these nasty practices.
    These dubious business techniques gave them time and money to come up with the c2d capability.
    Without these practices it may well have been amd that came up with similar architecture to the c2d as they would have had a lot more income to spend on r&d.
    This may have resulted in a much closer match for the c2d driving intel to get it's i7s down to street level much sooner, don't even try to justify what intel have done because if you have bought cpu's recently you have lost out as well.
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