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Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed?

Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?
Colorado’s pot experiment: The unintended consequences of marijuana legalization - Slate (May 21 2014)
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"It hasn’t caused the havoc opponents predicted, but Colorado’s bold marijuana experiment is having some unexpected consequences.

Nearly five months into Colorado’s great pot experiment, the early returns are good. In Denver, home to the bulk of the first-in-the-nation retail stores, violent crime fell by 5.6 percent over the first four months of the year, with major property crimes down nearly twice that, according to the city’s police.

State coffers, meanwhile, are flush with tax revenues from the nearly $50 million worth of recreational weed that was sold through March, the last month for which official estimates are available. Those sales translate into $7.3 million for the state, a number that jumps to $12.6 million when you factor in medical marijuana and licensing fees. Lawmakers are already trying to figure out how to spend future revenues that are projected to reach $98 million this year alone."
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Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed?

Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?
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Drugs are bad mkay.
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hearts2241 m ago

Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable …Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?


Simply, people like altered states of perception, however they achieve it.
hearts2241 m ago

Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable …Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?


I think its because addicts waste lots of money and now tabacco companies are losing money they need to find a new cash cow. Its also a form of care in the community, akin to the backstreet abortions in Ireland, poor people without healthcare or those whos healthcare is limited are using it because they think it will improve their health (plenty of spouses on the mental health forum I'm on are doing it in the USA to the detriment of their loved ones it seems as they all don't like it and say it makes them worse or doesn't make any difference but the partner claims otherwise). I also think its a way of dumbing down the population so they don't riot against the government.

Good time is a strange term to us these people are just sitting in their homes wasting their brains, reminds me of the experiment done on rats in to socialising, the rats alone just took drugs all the time, the ones together in a cage didn't use the offered drugs.
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I say yes. Just don't smoke the strong stuff when stood up outside lol.
hearts221 h, 57 m ago

Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable …Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?


We could say the same thing about Alcohol. I personally know very little people who can have a 'good time' without alcohol. What are ypu doing tonight? Having a pint, what are ypu doing on the weekend, getting ******. What are you doing on holiday, having a pint. People just dont know what else to do to have a gpod time, times are gone where you cpuld talk to each other when sober, now we sit in silence.
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master1010 m ago

We could say the same thing about Alcohol. I personally know very little …We could say the same thing about Alcohol. I personally know very little people who can have a 'good time' without alcohol. What are ypu doing tonight? Having a pint, what are ypu doing on the weekend, getting ******. What are you doing on holiday, having a pint. People just dont know what else to do to have a gpod time, times are gone where you cpuld talk to each other when sober, now we sit in silence.


Haha yes. Drinking is part of the culture and getting drunk is seen as fun. I personally don't drink or smoke.
Colorado’s pot experiment: The unintended consequences of marijuana legalization - Slate (May 21 2014)
slate.com/art…tml

Quote:
"It hasn’t caused the havoc opponents predicted, but Colorado’s bold marijuana experiment is having some unexpected consequences.

Nearly five months into Colorado’s great pot experiment, the early returns are good. In Denver, home to the bulk of the first-in-the-nation retail stores, violent crime fell by 5.6 percent over the first four months of the year, with major property crimes down nearly twice that, according to the city’s police.

State coffers, meanwhile, are flush with tax revenues from the nearly $50 million worth of recreational weed that was sold through March, the last month for which official estimates are available. Those sales translate into $7.3 million for the state, a number that jumps to $12.6 million when you factor in medical marijuana and licensing fees. Lawmakers are already trying to figure out how to spend future revenues that are projected to reach $98 million this year alone."
Rather talk to a stoner than a pishhed
It's been proven many a time that legalising it will provide a net benefit.

No point discussing it on here as it's not a very forward thinking group around here tbh.

You'll just get people posting anecdotal evidence that they once had a friend who knew someone that smoked and it sent them mad and at the time completely disregard the countless studies that show it will be a net benefit, as well as discounting the places that have legalised it and seen a net benefit from it too.
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m00head3 m ago

[Image] Source: Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt - …[Image] Source: Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt - BBC Newshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210


While I'd entrainment that idea, why does that chart read like a list of which drugs are most common/available?

Source:
Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt - BBC News (1 November 2010)
bbc.co.uk/new…210
its definitely a growing industry
MSK.2 h, 21 m ago

While I'd entrainment that idea, why does that chart read like a list of …While I'd entrainment that idea, why does that chart read like a list of which drugs are most common/available?


Heroin, Crack, Meth, and Cocaine are all more common/available than Tobacco?
Edited by: "m00head" 9th Jan
m00head6 m ago

Heroin, crack, meths, and cocaine are all more common/available than …Heroin, crack, meths, and cocaine are all more common/available than Tobacco?


Maybe not in the exact order, but all of the more common ones seem to be in the top half of the chart. I have to wonder if the information is biased towards which drugs have more available data.
MSK.8 m ago

Maybe not in the exact order, but all of the more common ones seem to be …Maybe not in the exact order, but all of the more common ones seem to be in the top half of the chart. I have to wonder if the information is biased towards which drugs have more available data.


What it really shows is that the 2 legal substances in that list are 2 of the most harmful out there.
Towelie4 m ago

What it really shows is that the 2 legal substances in that list are 2 of …What it really shows is that the 2 legal substances in that list are 2 of the most harmful out there.


Some of the most harmful, sure. But careful with the wording, tobacco is not second.
MSK.4 m ago

Some of the most harmful, sure. But careful with the wording, tobacco is …Some of the most harmful, sure. But careful with the wording, tobacco is not second.


Which is why i said '2 of the most harmful substances' as opposed to 'the 2 most harmful'.
Towelie12 m ago

What it really shows is that the 2 legal substances in that list are 2 of …What it really shows is that the 2 legal substances in that list are 2 of the most harmful out there.


Due to ample research and high levels of use, in the Netherlands 24% of the population have used sh*t weed.

Still i fail to see the point of your misdirection, two wrongs don't make a right, the lesser evil is still evil, the fact booze and cigs cause so much trouble is a reason to tighten laws not let another one be given the OK, name me a situation where the perceived damage of one thing has been used as an excuse to allow another?
Towelie4 m ago

Which is why i said '2 of the most harmful substances' as opposed to 'the …Which is why i said '2 of the most harmful substances' as opposed to 'the 2 most harmful'.


*sigh* I agree with you, but you're leaving it open for a fight around these parts of you're not careful with your words. I had to read that three times.
Segata-Sanshiro3 m ago

Due to ample research and high levels of use, in the Netherlands 24% of …Due to ample research and high levels of use, in the Netherlands 24% of the population have used sh*t weed.Still i fail to see the point of your misdirection, two wrongs don't make a right, the lesser evil is still evil, the fact booze and cigs cause so much trouble is a reason to tighten laws not let another one be given the OK, name me a situation where the perceived damage of one thing has been used as an excuse to allow another?


24% of little in the Netherlands only smoke good weed, is that what you're trying to say?
MSK.4 m ago

24% of little in the Netherlands only smoke good weed, is that what you're …24% of little in the Netherlands only smoke good weed, is that what you're trying to say?


No such thing, but if a country that has allowed its use for 30 years has a population where only 24% have used it, it goes to show what a small but very vocal minority they are compared to how many drink or have had tabacco.
Segata-Sanshiro5 m ago

No such thing, but if a country that has allowed its use for 30 years has …No such thing, but if a country that has allowed its use for 30 years has a population where only 24% have used it, it goes to show what a small but very vocal minority they are compared to how many drink or have had tabacco.


It does? I would think it shows that they did not immediately become a nation of rampant drug addicts that lost all self control.

But that's assuming I am actually understanding what the 24% is that you are referring to this time.
MSK.4 m ago

It does? I would think it shows that they did not immediately become a …It does? I would think it shows that they did not immediately become a nation of rampant drug addicts that lost all self control. But that's assuming I am actually understanding what the 24% is that you are referring to this time.


They do have problems actually with it, but they were never a high drug using nation anyway, my point was that its a small minority compared to the other two so obviously the graph would be higher for the two most used drugs.
Segata-Sanshiro2 m ago

They do have problems actually with it, but they were never a high drug …They do have problems actually with it, but they were never a high drug using nation anyway, my point was that its a small minority compared to the other two so obviously the graph would be higher for the two most used drugs.


hearts226 h, 8 m ago

Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable …Why are people, especially in the US, so into weed? Are people incapable of having a good time unless they're high on something?



weed, alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, everyone is some form of addict. just that some are seen as more acceptable than others depending on where you are and how much money the government can make out of your addiction.
Edited by: "Azztec" 9th Jan
I think it's probably wrong to try and compare drug's, they impact people in different ways, Alcohol and smoking are freely available lawfully and kill more people directly/indirectly than alot of illegal drugs. That doesn't make them right, nor does it mean we should legalized some of the less lethal drugs. In the case of cannabis the impact on mental health is astounding, it's also a gateway drug. Most heroin addicts probably smoked pot before they became zombified on heroin. There are more harmful prescription drugs too.
Edited by: ".MUFC." 9th Jan
.MUFC.33 m ago

I think it's probably wrong to try and compare drug's, they impact people …I think it's probably wrong to try and compare drug's, they impact people in different ways, Alcohol and smoking are freely available lawfully and kill more people directly/indirectly than alot of illegal drugs. That doesn't make them right, nor does it mean we should legalized some of the less lethal drugs. In the case of cannabis the impact on mental health is astounding, it's also a gateway drug. Most heroin addicts probably smoked pot before they became zombified on heroin. There are more harmful prescription drugs too.


You make sense till you start talking about the gateway theory, which is outdated and generally been disregarded.

Many heroin addicts probably did start out on cigarettes and pot, but most people who smoke pot don't go on to take heroin. If people go down that route it will be down to their own personalities, mental illness or personal weaknesses. Which seemed to be the point you were originally making, before you contradicted yourself.

The difficult bit is working out who it will happen to.
MSK.54 m ago

You make sense till you start talking about the gateway theory, which is …You make sense till you start talking about the gateway theory, which is outdated and generally been disregarded.Many heroin addicts probably did start out on cigarettes and pot, but most people who smoke pot don't go on to take heroin. If people go down that route it will be down to their own personalities, mental illness or personal weaknesses. Which seemed to be the point you were originally making, before you contradicted yourself.The difficult bit is working out who it will happen to.


Sorry that's a very important part, it's clearly a very small minority. I guess drug misuse is often a choice at first, that choice is often misguided by the use of other drugs ( sometimes not ). I started smoking before I started toking. I stopped smoking pot when it impacted my own mental state. I carried on smoking and quit totally a few years ago. When smoking pot I had easier access to stronger drugs. Fortunately I made the right choice I think. It certainly depends on the person. I can take or leave alcohol like most people but for some it's very difficult, usually or often it's linked to mental state, situation, drink to forget etc.
But they try their best with the prescription drugs, its cutting edge technology and these things are tested and tested as much as they can, its all about potency, unfortunately you get side effects with things but they try their best to minimise that while including maximum effectiveness. But sometimes its the active compound itself that causes them so can not be removed.

When looking at pharmaceuticals you need to look at it in comparison with the proven alternative, Chinese medicine has been shown to be effective, all those dried lizards and things do contain active compounds which are recognised to work but the amounts of those active compounds is tiny compared to their pharmaceutical brothers, the amount of additional compounds within the dried things means an increased likelihood of bad effects and most importantly its killing a lot of animals for no point, destroying ancient remains too, because the active compounds were synthesized by pharmaceutical companies long ago.
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I've been investing in cannabis since my late teens.
Judging by the quality of posts on HUKD by some individuals , I’d say those are already investing heavily in cannabis
If Alcohol enrages and pot placates, Saturday nights would be more passive.
A&E would see less ill tempered and uncontrollable patients.
Tax revenues would increase.
Policing would be available for other criminal activities.
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