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    Iphone 6 battery fail

    Mac rumours is possibly showing a picture of the new iPhone 6 battery, just 1810 mah capacity.
    So has apple failed at the first hurdle, i.e. the 4.5 inch £100 Moto g has a 2080 mah battery.
    Do you really want a thin phone that may not last a days use
    Link in first post

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    It will be just fine.

    No doubt that smaller chips will use less power

    Original Poster

    macrumors.com/201…ty/

    Ok iphone6 may have low power consumption, but i bet the phone will be thin at the expense of battery life, android phones of this screen size tend to be in the 2500 to 3000 mah battery range

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    Battery fail?

    You're judging a product before it's even been released.

    lumsdot

    http://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/17/iphone6-battery-1810-mah-capacity/Ok … http://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/17/iphone6-battery-1810-mah-capacity/Ok iphone6 may have low power consumption, but i bet the phone will be thin at the expense of battery life, android phones of this screen size tend to be in the 2500 to 3000 mah battery range



    Yeah but Apple phones are actually the most power efficient there are out of all of the manufactures. Look at their usage vs their battery sizes and you will see. Its not all about size.

    There is more to the phone than battery life and it shows that the 5s is outselling the newer Samsung S5: tuaw.com/201…ted

    And if Apple get this off the ground then other phones don't stand a chance against the iPhone: ibtimes.co.uk/app…768

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    mds1256

    Yeah but Apple phones are actually the most power efficient there are out … Yeah but Apple phones are actually the most power efficient there are out of all of the manufactures. Look at their usage vs their battery sizes and you will see. Its not all about size.There is more to the phone than battery life and it shows that the 5s is outselling the newer Samsung S5: http://www.tuaw.com/2014/07/17/8-month-old-iphone-5s-outselling-samsungs-flagship-galaxy-s5/?ncid=rss_truncatedAnd if Apple get this off the ground then other phones don't stand a chance against the iPhone: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/apple-secretly-researching-fuel-cell-technology-improved-iphone-battery-performance-1456768



    Yes they are power efficient, but apple does not take advantage of this fact.
    Apple could easily put in a bigger battery , similar in size to other phones, and then you would have a killer battery life feature , a 2 day battery life beating all other phones.
    This would justify the high price of the iphones.
    But nope all they care about is thinness

    mds1256

    Yeah but Apple phones are actually the most power efficient there are out … Yeah but Apple phones are actually the most power efficient there are out of all of the manufactures. Look at their usage vs their battery sizes and you will see. Its not all about size.There is more to the phone than battery life and it shows that the 5s is outselling the newer Samsung S5: http://www.tuaw.com/2014/07/17/8-month-old-iphone-5s-outselling-samsungs-flagship-galaxy-s5/?ncid=rss_truncatedAnd if Apple get this off the ground then other phones don't stand a chance against the iPhone: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/apple-secretly-researching-fuel-cell-technology-improved-iphone-battery-performance-1456768



    That mock up looks like a HTC one. If I were them I'd sue...

    lumsdot

    Apple could easily put in a bigger battery....But nope all they care … Apple could easily put in a bigger battery....But nope all they care about is thinness



    Steve Jobs took that philosophy to its logical conclusion. Didn't work out well for him.
    Edited by: "dheydl" 17th Jul 2014

    Original Poster

    Looks like they are going for the thinnest iphone yet

    cnet.com/uk/…et/

    Wonder how long you will get banging beats audio out on the phone with a small battery like that. we all know that beats will eat the power.

    Lol @ Beats.......it's all but a name.

    Batteries don't really work like that.

    The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily for email, messaging, music player, and it lasts more than the whole day, much more than I can say about most Android phones.

    Apple know exactly what they are doing, better antennas, better CPU, better IOS, better battery saving software.
    Edited by: "hasj2" 18th Jul 2014

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    hasj2

    The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily … The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily for email, messaging, music player, and it lasts more than the whole day, much more than I can say about most Android phones.Apple know exactly what they are doing, better antennas, better CPU, better IOS, better battery saving software.



    Please seek help.

    lumsdot

    Please seek help.



    seek help for what?

    Original Poster

    hasj2

    seek help for what?



    For blind devotion to apple products.
    How is the 4s one of the best phones around,
    Can name about 5 android phones that wipe the floor with it.
    As for the iphone6 battery they have decreased the thickness from 3mm to 2mm to make the phone thinner
    . but in doing so will have decreased battery life by a third. Madness

    lumsdot

    For blind devotion to apple products.How is the 4s one of the best phones … For blind devotion to apple products.How is the 4s one of the best phones around,Can name about 5 android phones that wipe the floor with it.As for the iphone6 battery they have decreased the thickness from 3mm to 2mm to make the phone thinner. but in doing so will have decreased battery life by a third. Madness



    I praised the iPhone 4s, I don't own any other Apple product, nor would I, since they are overpriced. Stop throwing around baseless accusations just because I praised an Apple product.

    You are going to name 5 phones that came out this year or last year, I'm talking about a phone that came out in 2011 (4 years ago) + had 'only' a 1432 mA·h battery, and still holds up to smartphones released to this day, which goes to show how well IOS is compared to Android (Kitkat has improved Android vastly)

    Apple could half the iPhone battery and I still will have faith that the iPhone 6 will last the whole day, because Apple will not release a phone that lasts 6 hours and dies, that need to innovate now, and they won't do something as foolish.

    EDIT:

    Even the iPhone 5S has a 1560 mA·h and lasts more than a full day, so Apple are upping the power of the Li-Po battery and you call it a 'fail'
    Edited by: "hasj2" 18th Jul 2014

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    lumsdot

    For blind devotion to apple products.How is the 4s one of the best phones … For blind devotion to apple products.How is the 4s one of the best phones around,Can name about 5 android phones that wipe the floor with it.As for the iphone6 battery they have decreased the thickness from 3mm to 2mm to make the phone thinner. but in doing so will have decreased battery life by a third. Madness



    Decreased battery by a third of what? Some imaginary figure in your head? It's 16% larger than the 5S battery and the components will use less electricity meaning an improvement in battery life.

    You attack people for their "blind devotion to Apple products" when you yourself blindly attack them.

    Original Poster

    hasj2

    I praised the iPhone 4s, I don't own any other Apple product, nor would … I praised the iPhone 4s, I don't own any other Apple product, nor would I, since they are overpriced. Stop throwing around baseless accusations just because I praised an Apple product.You are going to name 5 phones that came out this year or last year, I'm talking about a phone that came out in 2011 (4 years ago) + had 'only' a 1432 mA·h battery, and still holds up to smartphones released to this day, which goes to show how well IOS is compared to Android (Kitkat has improved Android vastly)Apple could half the iPhone battery and I still will have faith that the iPhone 6 will last the whole day, because Apple will not release a phone that lasts 6 hours and dies, that need to innovate now, and they won't do something as foolish.EDIT:Even the iPhone 5S has a 1560 mA·h and lasts more than a full day, so Apple are upping the power of the Li-Po battery and you call it a 'fail'



    Apple don't know what they are doing, its taken them three years to get to a screen size users asked for i.e 4.6 inch
    If the new battery rumour is correct the iphone6 will still just last a day, due to bigger screen consumption.
    I bet the iphone 7 will have a bigger battery, when apple finally listen to its users.
    Android phones are using 2500 to 3500 mah batteries and lasting upto 2 days, and they don't look overly fat

    Original Poster

    KillFelix

    Decreased battery by a third of what? Some imaginary figure in your head? … Decreased battery by a third of what? Some imaginary figure in your head? It's 16% larger than the 5S battery and the components will use less electricity meaning an improvement in battery life.You attack people for their "blind devotion to Apple products" when you yourself blindly attack them.



    Iphone 5 battery is 3mm, as the iphone 6 has a bigger screen, the case has more room for a bigger battery i.e. Length and height, so if the thickness was kept at 3mm you would be looking at about 2500 mah fitting into the iphone 6 case.
    Read link above, they are having problems making a battery so thin at 2mm, if rumours are true.

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    lumsdot

    Iphone 5 battery is 3mm, as the iphone 6 has a bigger screen, the case … Iphone 5 battery is 3mm, as the iphone 6 has a bigger screen, the case has more room for a bigger battery i.e. Length and height, so if the thickness was kept at 3mm you would be looking at about 2500 mah fitting into the iphone 6 case.Read link above, they are having problems making a battery so thin at 2mm, if rumours are true.



    And? If you need the extra juice then get a battery pack/case.

    You're trying to make this look worse than it is. Battery life is certainly important but you're making it out to be the absolute pivotal feature of a phone when in reality it is just one of a vast number of things you have to consider. Besides it's not even been launched or even announced yet!

    But yeah, you're right. Apple don't know what they're doing. Shame they haven't got old lumsdot of HUKD to guide them... Apple are surely doomed.....

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    I suppose you would have also said "iPad Air Battery Fail" too.

    iPad 4th gen: 11560 mah
    iPad Air: 8820 mah

    OMGZ 25% LESS BATTERY LIFE! APPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING FML!!!


    Oh wait the battery life is exactly the same on both models due to more efficient components.

    hasj2

    The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily … The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily for email, messaging, music player, and it lasts more than the whole day, much more than I can say about most Android phones.Apple know exactly what they are doing, better antennas, better CPU, better IOS, better battery saving software.



    Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous iPhone 4 (not S) user.
    There's no need to belittle Android or IOS when you have barely any knowledge on the products.
    Edited by: "f2k8" 19th Jul 2014

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    f2k8

    Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous … Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous iPhone 4 (not S) user. There's no need to belittle Android or IOS when you have barely any knowledge on the products.



    I've looked at some tests and it seems pretty much on par, perhaps just a smidgen better than the iPhone.

    gsmarena.com/bat…hp3
    anandtech.com/sho…w/3

    moto g best phone ever made

    KillFelix

    I've looked at some tests and it seems pretty much on par, perhaps just a … I've looked at some tests and it seems pretty much on par, perhaps just a smidgen better than the iPhone.http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3http://www.anandtech.com/show/7586/motorola-moto-g-review/3



    Not from my own experience, the Moto G is the best phone I've used battery wise compared to every other so called 'smartphone'.
    The battery is phenomenal.

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    f2k8

    Not from my own experience, the Moto G is the best phone I've used … Not from my own experience, the Moto G is the best phone I've used battery wise compared to every other so called 'smartphone'. The battery is phenomenal.



    I'm sure it is great, but you said yourself you were comparing it to the iPhone 4 which was released 3 and a half years prior to the Moto G, so not really a fair comparison.

    KillFelix

    I'm sure it is great, but you said yourself you were comparing it to the … I'm sure it is great, but you said yourself you were comparing it to the iPhone 4 which was released 3 and a half years prior to the Moto G, so not really a fair comparison.



    I was comparing it to the Moto G because someone claimed Android phones' battery sucked, and they don't last as long as a 4S..
    Meh, I don't really care, I don't want to get sucked up in to this debate, don't even know why I commented in the first place..
    Edited by: "f2k8" 19th Jul 2014

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    f2k8

    I was comparing it to the Moto G because someone claimed Android phones' … I was comparing it to the Moto G because someone claimed Android phones' battery sucked, and they don't last as long as a 4S..



    Well that's true if you compare it to other 2011 android phones.

    Look, for fair tests then you need to compare similar sized phones from around the same original manufacturing date. Everything you've mentioned so far is spread across four years which is four lifetimes in terms of mobiles.

    Original Poster

    I've got the moto g and can sometimes get 2 days
    So the iPhone 6 may be able to match the moto g battery life due to it having more efficient component's even though it may have 300 mah less.
    That's why its an apple fail. The moto g is a £100 pound phone. The iPhone 6 is a flagship phone costing 5 times as much

    lumsdot

    Apple don't know what they are doing, its taken them three years to get … Apple don't know what they are doing, its taken them three years to get to a screen size users asked for i.e 4.6 inchIf the new battery rumour is correct the iphone6 will still just last a day, due to bigger screen consumption.I bet the iphone 7 will have a bigger battery, when apple finally listen to its users.Android phones are using 2500 to 3500 mah batteries and lasting upto 2 days, and they don't look overly fat

    thats how apple make huge profits. if they produced a phone that was perfect, then they wouldnt have the flock replacing their phones every year

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    lumsdot

    I've got the moto g and can sometimes get 2 daysSo the iPhone 6 may be … I've got the moto g and can sometimes get 2 daysSo the iPhone 6 may be able to match the moto g battery life due to it having more efficient component's even though it may have 300 mah less.That's why its an apple fail. The moto g is a £100 pound phone. The iPhone 6 is a flagship phone costing 5 times as much




    You're judging an entire unreleased phone based on just the battery life, that's why it's a Lumsdot fail.

    f2k8

    Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous … Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous iPhone 4 (not S) user. There's no need to belittle Android or IOS when you have barely any knowledge on the products.

    4/5 days lol

    do you ever use your phone?

    chocci

    4/5 days loldo you ever use your phone?



    Music for an hour to work and back, regularly on Whatsapp, checking my emails around 3-6 times a day, facebook/twitter browsing now and then, never game much, do watch youtube videos etc. All at around 40% brightness, and my phone is usually on silent most of the day due to work and me forgetting to put it back on loud. I hit around 7% by the 4th day most of the time, which can last a whole extra day if I turn all comms off.
    Edited by: "f2k8" 19th Jul 2014

    KillFelix

    Well that's true if you compare it to other 2011 android phones.Look, for … Well that's true if you compare it to other 2011 android phones.Look, for fair tests then you need to compare similar sized phones from around the same original manufacturing date. Everything you've mentioned so far is spread across four years which is four lifetimes in terms of mobiles.



    phonearena.com/new…497

    2 more hours than the 'current gen beloved' 5S.
    Goodbye.

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    f2k8

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Moto-G-battery-life-test-the-long-distance-runner_id524972 more hours than the 'current gen beloved' 5S.Goodbye.



    Aah right so not a real world test used there then, but a web script.

    I'm not disputing that it's got a good battery life, I'm just saying it's not massively different to anything else out there. If you're getting 4/5 days then I'd say with the same use an iPhone 5S would get you 3/4 days.

    I can't really speculate on the 6 as I have no idea what they're planning, although I can say with almost complete certainty that it will have a better battery life than the 5S.

    You also have to consider that the Moto G is almost twice the physical size of the 5S (99300 mm3 vs 55135 mm3, and a rumored size of 59150 mm3 for the iPhone 6)

    It's a budget phone all round, but a good one. It shows through on certain aspects too, like the camera, benchmarks etc. On the battery life and price it has the upper hand, on all other things though the 5S beats it.

    Edited by: "KillFelix" 19th Jul 2014

    f2k8

    Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous … Whole day? Try a Moto G, 4-5 days on one full charge. Also a previous iPhone 4 (not S) user. There's no need to belittle Android or IOS when you have barely any knowledge on the products.



    4/5 days of heavy usage? Post a screenshot of the battery usage Also i think anyone can get 4/5 days of battery life if you hardly use the phone regardless of what phone it is.

    I had a moto g and it would last about a day with heavy usage, roughly the same as my iPhone 5S currently, maybe got an hour extra on the moto g but nowhere near the 5 days you claim lol.

    This thread has made me sad.

    Comparing battery life on different hardware platforms...




    http://i46.tinypic.com/20fdnc7.jpg

    f2k8

    Music for an hour to work and back, regularly on Whatsapp, checking my … Music for an hour to work and back, regularly on Whatsapp, checking my emails around 3-6 times a day, facebook/twitter browsing now and then, never game much, do watch youtube videos etc. All at around 40% brightness, and my phone is usually on silent most of the day due to work and me forgetting to put it back on loud. I hit around 7% by the 4th day most of the time, which can last a whole extra day if I turn all comms off.


    My GF has a moto G and barely uses it but still has to charge it daily. I think you may have the elusive magic battery scientists have been looking for

    hasj2

    The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily … The iPhone 4s is still one of the best phones around, I use it heavily for email, messaging, music player, and it lasts more than the whole day, much more than I can say about most Android phones.Apple know exactly what they are doing, better antennas, better CPU, better IOS, better battery saving software.



    Sorry. I just caught back up with this thread. I am sitting here in stitches at the blind devotion. You said "BETTER ANTENNAS". I do remember not to long ago about the issue with the Iphone 4 antenna and when you held it in a certain way "Apples advice" it would work.

    I am not nor will i ever be an apple fan. The prices of apple products are just ridiculous. Look at apples net worth. Over 100billion dollars now. Greed. Sheer greed. But to each their own, and the iphone 6, then 7 then 8 and so on.

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    Dominatez

    I am not nor will i ever be an apple fan.



    Sounds like you're biased against the brand just because it's Apple which is a shame, because you're missing out on some really great products.
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