Found 13th Jul 2009
Orange parade clashes continue
watch listen Monday, 13 July 2009 22:08

The stand off between police and republican youths in Ardoyne in North Belfast is continuing.

Police have forced the youths back into the estates behind the interface. A hi-jacked van and car have been set alight at both entrances to the area.

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Nah mate, the troubles aren't back - Just a few gobsheets stirring up. Always happens this time of year.

The troubles would be mass riots, hi-jackings, and a prime time slot on the telly :P

*BLEEDING OUTRAGED*

At the bottom of the article:

"Public money has been provided to help sell 'Orangefest' to an international audience and the growing number of tourists visiting Northern Ireland."

So part of my money has been used towards that carp? Ugh. Good for tourism I guess, but surely we can sell them something better >.

It's about time the Irish grew up, forgot past differences and learned to live together harmoniously.

We laugh out loud to see those stupid, stupid men marching along in their bowler hats and fancy dress. And the other side are just as bigoted and closed-minded, rooted in the past.

Religion has much to answer for.

I simply cannot understand the mentality. I am on good terms with everyone in our street. I enjoy my beer with friends and casual acquaintances at the pub. But I have absolutely no idea what, if any, religion they are - neither do I care.

Yes because the 12th period is never tense...if you lived in Northern Ireland you would realise it is nothing like the years of the troubles.

DragonChris;5741510

"Public money has been provided to help sell 'Orangefest' to an … "Public money has been provided to help sell 'Orangefest' to an international audience and the growing number of tourists visiting Northern Ireland."So part of my money has been used towards that carp? Ugh. Good for tourism I guess, but surely we can sell them something better >.

renard;5741597

It's about time the Irish grew up, forgot past differences and learned to … It's about time the Irish grew up, forgot past differences and learned to live together harmoniously.We laugh out loud to see those stupid, stupid men marching along in their bowler hats and fancy dress. And the other side are just as bigoted and closed-minded, rooted in the past.Religion has much to answer for.I simply cannot understand the mentality. I am on good terms with everyone in our street. I enjoy my beer with friends and casual acquaintances at the pub. But I have absolutely no idea what, if any, religion they are - neither do I care.



As with the majority of the northern irish! in reality religion doesn't have a lot to do with it, read a bit of irish history

myaser88;5741651

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/northernireland/5820672/Five-police-officers-injured-in-Northern-Ireland-violence.htmlsounds quite serious



Not like the media to hype things up...again the vast majority of the nation today were peaceful there were the usual bad spots

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cbryanp;5741675

Not like the media to hype things up...again the vast majority of the … Not like the media to hype things up...again the vast majority of the nation today were peaceful there were the usual bad spots



if it was burnley or oldham, it'd be reported as world war 3. media coverage's been about right.

myaser88;5741746

if it was burnley or oldham, it'd be reported as world war 3. media … if it was burnley or oldham, it'd be reported as world war 3. media coverage's been about right.



Aye with your eye-witness account you would know its been reported accordingly...

The armed forces are on standby, the first time in 3 years for these parades.

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Lulu'sMammy;5741774

The armed forces are on standby, the first time in 3 years for these … The armed forces are on standby, the first time in 3 years for these parades.



normal stuff, apparently

This thread rubs me up the wrong way - there are much better ways to get your obvious point across OP.

myaser88;5741786

normal stuff, apparently



Look to be honest you have proved your lack of knowledge on NI issues on another thread you start. Saying this is like the Troubles is ridiculous there were certain events earlier in the year that have hightened tension but it is not like the days of the Troubles

cbryanp;5741835

Look to be honest you have proved your lack of knowledge on NI issues on … Look to be honest you have proved your lack of knowledge on NI issues on another thread you start. Saying this is like the Troubles is ridiculous there were certain events earlier in the year that have hightened tension but it is not like the days of the Troubles


Your right its not, but its also not as peaceful as times that it has been.

Lulu'sMammy;5741860

Your right its not, but its also not as peaceful as times that it has … Your right its not, but its also not as peaceful as times that it has been.



Yeah agreed but its not unexpected after the killing of the soldiers and the incident in Coleraine in June

cbryanp;5741654

[/B]in reality religion doesn't have a lot to do with it, read a bit of … [/B]in reality religion doesn't have a lot to do with it, read a bit of irish history



My apologies if I have got it wrong.

My understanding is that the underlying unpleasantness is due to the schism between Protestants (epitomised by loyalist paramilitaries and the ridiculous Orange men in bowlers), who want to remain part of the UK, and the Catholics (championed by the IRA), who want union with the south.

Whatever, I am afraid that today's violence DOES appear serious from this side of the Irish Sea and does not reflect a society at peace with itself.

Again, apologies if I misunderstand the situation - and best wishes to a lovely part of the world.

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renard;5741874

My apologies if I have got it wrong.My understanding is that the … My apologies if I have got it wrong.My understanding is that the underlying unpleasantness is due to the schism between Protestants (epitomised by loyalist paramilitaries and the ridiculous Orange men in bowlers), who want to remain part of the UK, and the Catholics (championed by the IRA), who want union with the south.Whatever, I am afraid that today's violence DOES appear serious from this side of the Irish Sea and does not reflect a society at peace with itself.Again, apoligies if I misunderstand the situation - and best wishes to a lovely part of the world.



Its not a lovely part of the world

I'm moving to Australia next month as this country is filled with unemployed thugs who fill their time by annoying and bringing back memories to the innocent working classes

This will never be fixed and the police get blamed for everything, not the yobs who we let out of prison a decade ago

Tensions will always run high here and especially when you have terrorists in government, everyone won't be happy

But it will prob never get back to as bad as it used to be

I'd rather move away from it all, as its embarrassing to be living here

Johnrulez;5741909

Its not a lovely part of the worldI'm moving to Australia next month as … Its not a lovely part of the worldI'm moving to Australia next month as this country is filled with unemployed thugs who fill their time by annoying and bringing back memories to the innocent working classesThis will never be fixed and the police get blamed for everything, not the yobs who we let out of prison a decade agoTensions will always run high here and especially when you have terrorists in government, everyone won't be happyBut it will prob never get back to as bad as it used to beI'd rather move away from it all, as its embarrassing to be living here


Where abouts are you? Good luck with your move matey.

Johnrulez;5741909

Its not a lovely part of the worldI'm moving to Australia next month as … Its not a lovely part of the worldI'm moving to Australia next month as this country is filled with unemployed thugs who fill their time by annoying and bringing back memories to the innocent working classesThis will never be fixed and the police get blamed for everything, not the yobs who we let out of prison a decade agoTensions will always run high here and especially when you have terrorists in government, everyone won't be happyBut it will prob never get back to as bad as it used to beI'd rather move away from it all, as its embarrassing to be living here



Come up the the North Coast mate away from the Belfast scum lol! All the best with the move anyway!

Banned

cbryanp;5741925

Come up the the North Coast mate away from the Belfast scum lol! All … Come up the the North Coast mate away from the Belfast scum lol! All the best with the move anyway!



where abouts are you, been quiet up there over the past couple of years, derry still bad though

Johnrulez;5741937

where abouts are you, been quiet up there over the past couple of years, … where abouts are you, been quiet up there over the past couple of years, derry still bad though



Coleraine area...yeah Derry has been bad lately it is the worst of NI atm which is a shame but I dont think I could ever leave the area so beautiful.

Banned

cbryanp;5741952

Coleraine area...yeah Derry has been bad lately it is the worst of NI atm … Coleraine area...yeah Derry has been bad lately it is the worst of NI atm which is a shame but I dont think I could ever leave the area so beautiful.



go up to bushmills a few times a year, and love it up there, when the weather is nice

we can swap houses if you want?

Johnrulez;5741909

Its not a lovely part of the world





I was referring to your wonderful scenery, coastal areas, fishing and some genuinely lovely people.

Good luck for the future. It's no consolation to you, but I know a few English people who have moved or are moving to Australia, to escape as England also goes down the pan . . .

Johnrulez;5741969

go up to bushmills a few times a year, and love it up there, when the … go up to bushmills a few times a year, and love it up there, when the weather is nicewe can swap houses if you want?



Pass! it would be a shame if you left this place needs more people with perspective soon all that will be left the the yobs!

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renard;5741981

I was referring to your wonderful scenery, coastal areas, fishing and … I was referring to your wonderful scenery, coastal areas, fishing and some genuinely lovely people.Good luck for the future. It's no consolation to you, but I know a few English people who have moved or are moving to Australia, to escape as England also goes down the pan . . .





thanks

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cbryanp;5741997

Pass! it would be a shame if you left this place needs more people with … Pass! it would be a shame if you left this place needs more people with perspective soon all that will be left the the yobs!



thats the difference, 20 years ago it was the real troubles

The modern troubles seems to be just these yobs who are everywhere, derry and belfast are out of control

there are a lot of the population who have moved on and rise above it, but they are silent and the yobs are the ones gaining the headlines and making it worse

Johnrulez;5742021

thats the difference, 20 years ago it was the real troublesThe modern … thats the difference, 20 years ago it was the real troublesThe modern troubles seems to be just these yobs who are everywhere, derry and belfast are out of controlthere are a lot of the population who have moved on and rise above it, but they are silent and the yobs are the ones gaining the headlines and making it worse



Yeah know the kind of people you are talking about I laughed at some of the lads at school you know the kind 'im a prod - but i dont believe in god' just plain idiots. Anyway we can only hope for the best and

renard;5741597

It's about time the Irish grew up, forgot past differences and learned to … It's about time the Irish grew up, forgot past differences and learned to live together harmoniously.We laugh out loud to see those stupid, stupid men marching along in their bowler hats and fancy dress. And the other side are just as bigoted and closed-minded, rooted in the past.Religion has much to answer for.I simply cannot understand the mentality. I am on good terms with everyone in our street. I enjoy my beer with friends and casual acquaintances at the pub. But I have absolutely no idea what, if any, religion they are - neither do I care.



what u on about, the whole thing didnt start because of religion, it was because the english and scottish came over in boats and stole the irish people homes

cbryanp;5742072

Yeah know the kind of people you are talking about I laughed at some of … Yeah know the kind of people you are talking about I laughed at some of the lads at school you know the kind 'im a prod - but i dont believe in god' just plain idiots. Anyway we can only hope for the best and



derrys not that bad anymore!

tony_dudz;5742092

derrys not that bad anymore!



In comparison with aother areas its been fairly bad - again Im not talking troubles bad but there have been more incident around there in recent times.

Chelsea? What about Stephen Kenny's men? lol

cbryanp;5742113

In comparison with aother areas its been fairly bad - again Im not … In comparison with aother areas its been fairly bad - again Im not talking troubles bad but there have been more incident around there in recent times.Chelsea? What about Stephen Kenny's men? lol



derry, dont follow them tbh, im not a bandwagonner

It's just that time of year when norn iron is on its moons. Come August we'll be back to knee capping dealers, reading about loyalist with flowery names topping each other and maybe the odd bomb scare.

Too many drunks in Londonderry.

Londonderryman;5742179

Too many drunks in Londonderry.


u mean derry

cbryanp;5742113

In comparison with aother areas its been fairly bad - again Im not … In comparison with aother areas its been fairly bad - again Im not talking troubles bad but there have been more incident around there in recent times.Chelsea? What about Stephen Kenny's men? lol



This coming from somebody in Coleraine.....

tony_dudz;5742191

u mean derry



Now now lets all get along!

cbryanp;5742201

Now now lets all get along!



lol :thumbsup::thumbsup:

tony_dudz;5742191

u mean derry



He means Londondoire. That's my new name proposal for the town and I'm going to get Sean Coyle and Gerry Anderson to spearhead the campaign.

leefal;5742210

He means Londondoire. That's my new name proposal for the town and I'm … He means Londondoire. That's my new name proposal for the town and I'm going to get Sean Coyle and Gerry Anderson to spearhead the campaign.



why London, nothing to do with it in my opinion,
The walled city is good enough
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