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Is DPF on a Ford as bad as people say ?

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Found 20th Nov 2014
Hey
I just bought a 56 Plate 2.0 TDCI with a full service and 130000 miles.
I got an amazing deal, 2300 with a new cambelt and waterpump and another service, so I thought it was great and picking it up Tomorrow.

But some comments are worrying me about the DPF on this.
I will be doing half B roads and Half city driving, about 30 miles a day.
I have no issues taking it for a drive every couple weeks to clean the DPF out.
Has anyone got any advice for these DPF models?

Thanks so much

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I didn't think a 56 plate Mondeo has a DPF, but I could be wrong.

With those miles your main concern will be injectors, fuel pump and dual mass flywheel.

I sold a 55 plate 2.2 TDCI mondeo on 125,000 miles for £1200 because it needed all new injectors and a dual mass flywheel which would have cost me ££££'s

Original Poster

Its a focus sorry.

The guy is very honest, I am friends with his best friend, and he has been in business over 40 years.
He is doing a full service and cambelt as well before pick up, and it drove like a dream.

No warning lights, and bodywork and interior is mint, not a mark on anything.

DPF's are terrible, They have additives that usually can't just be topped up, The ECU has to be reset each time it's topped up, Which is usually dealer only or specialist, Absolute pain in the derrière.

I'd consider having it removed with a DPF delete kit along with blanking the EGR as well, ECU may need remapping but worth it imo because the headaches DPF and EGR valve can cause.

Yeah it's important to open it up regularly, Not just to clean DPF but to keep turbo clean as well.

Luckily my cars not got a DPF, However I've blanked my EGR and get a better mpg, Smoother idle and drive. I had an issue with my turbo, Basically clogging up. Since blanking EGR no turbo probrem :).

EGR works when new but when old has the opposite effect, I dare say my emissions are cleaner without it.
Edited by: ".MUFC." 20th Nov 2014

i didnt think the car itself was all that relevant - if you dont do the mileage for them to auto clean themselves, then they clog regardless. don't think you need to worry too much about it though if you are doing 30 miles a day (although 30, 1 mile trips might be a problem)

I was told by Ford DPF's were introduced in 2008 so you should be fine.

I was quoted £800- £1200 for a DPF change in a 2.0 TDCI focus.

I never had any worries in mine, and I did no where near that kind of milage, just give it a bit of Rev every now and then

Read this article from Honest John's website if you haven't already seen it:

FAQs - DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTERS, flashing glowplug lights, flashing 'depollution system' lights, engine oil contamination. Please explain.

Extract from above article:

As widely predicted, the problem is that diesel particulate filters have a limited life of perhaps 80,000 to 100,000 miles before they become completely clogged with ash, cannot be cleaned out or 'replenished' and need to be replaced.

Many owners are now finding out that the cost of that can be anything from £1,000 to £3,500 - possibly as much as the value of the car and certainly far more than the saving on fuel from driving a diesel car rather than a petrol one.

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Under new rules you cannot remove the DPF, its now a MOT failure, was looking at that.

I will take the odd trip to the shop, I cant imagine it being as bad, that if you drive it socially on the weekend, it will clog.

From all the complaints, I cant see why they are selling, or so expensive to repair and replace.

I would have thought, from 2006 to 2014, there would have been lower priced parts, My guy says it would be £800+ to replace if it all goes wrong.

Bobbajob

I didn't think a 56 plate Mondeo has a DPF, but I could be wrong.With … I didn't think a 56 plate Mondeo has a DPF, but I could be wrong.With those miles your main concern will be injectors, fuel pump and dual mass flywheel.I sold a 55 plate 2.2 TDCI mondeo on 125,000 miles for £1200 because it needed all new injectors and a dual mass flywheel which would have cost me ££££'s



"From around 2001. Mk III Mondeos up to 2007 never had them. Mk IV Mondeos always had them to meet EU4 from January 2008."

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/29231/avoiding-a-dpf---what-do-i-need-to-buy-

Yours doesn't have a DPF.

That's a lot of money for a 8 year old Ford with 130,000 miles in my opinion. Each to their own!

Particulate filters need extended periods of operation at consistent RPM.

Regarding topping up fluid, I didn't think the Ford 2.0 TDCI had fluid, in fact I only thought PSA use the fluid system. THe 1.6 TDCI engine is a PSA engine.

Also it's illegal to remove a DPF from a car that had a DPF originally fitted as standard and this would cause the vehicle to fail the MoT test.

Another extract from article quoted above:

... on 6-12-2013, as Honest John had frequently warned, removal of a Diesel Particulate filter has always been illegal under EC law. VOSA announced that garages and testing stations will be required check for a diesel particulate filter (DPF) in the inspection of the exhaust system as part of the MoT test (or annual test for heavy vehicles) from February 2014.

The vehicle will automatically fail the MoT test if a DPF was originally fitted as standard but is found to be no longer present.

Sorry canada16, I just saw your post saying you know it's a MoT failure to remove the DPF!

most DPFs can be cleaned with MrMuscle kitchen cleaner and/or a jetwash.
if you have a good diagnostic setup you can read the pressure in the exhaust and hence how blocked it is.
the liquids can be DIY topped up , the ford eolys fluid will be near 100£ for the fluid, but need specific software to reset the ECU.

I had my DPF play up on my 08 Focus Estate, luckily it's a works car as they had to replace it but some people say you can do the Italian tuneup to fix it, some say you can't. FYI though I just had a 14 plate Astra with a DPF and the Vauxhall leaflet says if I get the issue with it then I need to do an Italian tuneup to fix it.

Italian tuneup by the way is to drive for about 5 minutes in the lowest gear possible to get your revs up to about 4K or 5K and clear the deposits from the engine.

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LOL, I was wondering what an italian tune up is.
Top book on the car is 3200, as I work in insurance claims, so I have access to Glass's so think I got a good deal for a car that has a FSH and is getting another Service and cambelt even before I have paid for it, which is worth 500.00 for the 2.

Car is seriously mint, could not see one car, its a very nice, fast car. Probably pay through the nose on insurance though.

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I take it that DPF cars are not dropping left right and centre as most comments online.
If you take them for a good spin, use good oil, you should be ok ?

i am sure these were on watchdog

Banned

iv got a dpf car. The light came on after 2 months when I bought it. a load of people made me scared and said all sorts, that I was nearly in tears.
I drive to schools run or town and once a month on motorways. .its been absolutely fine xxxx kiss kiss to those who talk utter rubbish.

sofiasar

iv got a dpf car. The light came on after 2 months when I bought it. a … iv got a dpf car. The light came on after 2 months when I bought it. a load of people made me scared and said all sorts, that I was nearly in tears.I drive to schools run or town and once a month on motorways. .its been absolutely fine xxxx kiss kiss to those who talk utter rubbish.



School runs in a diesel is very bad in any case, They have to warm up too before they become efficient, Petrol much better for short journeys.

Simple fact is you have to thrash a diesel every so often.

Original Poster

Yeh a lot of peoples comments are scary, but only like 1% of people are saying they needed a whole new DPF.

I will try use High Quality vpower fuel when I can as people are saying this type is good for DPF, and use Fully synthetic oil.

Only reason I wanted a desiel was because I was using £36.00 worth of fuel every 5 days in my petrol, when others doing the same trip were only filling up every 10 days or so.

Well time will tell, nothing I can do about it, if it goes it goes, I knew the risk, if anyone has any other issues, or tips, please do share.

To find out exactly what your FORD car has go to

https://www.etis.ford.com/

click on the tab at the top that says vehicle and enter your REG NUMBER (you can also enter VIN)

If your car was made after 2005 it should be in there. There are also messages that show up in red on the left hand side of the screen to say if there have been any recalls. I use it all the time and it gave me a warning about glow-plug modules before the letter arrived in the post from Ford notifying me of a recall!

canada16

I take it that DPF cars are not dropping left right and centre as most … I take it that DPF cars are not dropping left right and centre as most comments online.If you take them for a good spin, use good oil, you should be ok ?


It doesn't have a DPF.

sofiasar

iv got a dpf car. The light came on after 2 months when I bought it. a … iv got a dpf car. The light came on after 2 months when I bought it. a load of people made me scared and said all sorts, that I was nearly in tears.I drive to schools run or town and once a month on motorways. .its been absolutely fine xxxx kiss kiss to those who talk utter rubbish.


Yeah DPF problems are all made up...

be more concerned about dmf and injectors.100,000 miles is good for a dmf after that your on borrowed time

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moob

It doesn't have a DPF.



You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
I know it has a DPF, Its a 2006 2.0, these ALL came with a DPF.

Also I work for insurance claims, so I have done a full background check and it states it has a DPF.

canada16

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.I know it has a … You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.I know it has a DPF, Its a 2006 2.0, these ALL came with a DPF. Also I work for insurance claims, so I have done a full background check and it states it has a DPF.



Not according to honest john or talk ford they don't - dunno why you're being so snappy, I was trying to help. http://www.talkford.com/community/topic/206011-diesel-particulate-filter/
http://www.talkford.com/community/topic/195818-does-my-mondy-have-a-dpf/

Cheeky ****.
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