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Is Gumtree full of scammers?

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Found 29th Jul 2011
Placed an ad on gumtree yesterday to sell something & so far have had 5 replies...

1. I have read the conditions of this item, kindly email the price for further transaction.

2. is this item in good condition?

3. Is this item still available for sale?

4. is this item in good condition?

5. Hello,
I would like to know if you still have the presented item available for sale.
I am interested in buying it and also wishes to know your means of payment.
I pay through PayPal.
Thank you.


Now all of these seem dodgy (except maybe #3) as they don't mention what the item is & they just seem to automated in order to get me to email back. So how do these scams work, or am I being paranoid?
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http://www.comedy.co.uk/images/library/people/180x200/f/fonejacker_george.jpg

Hallo sir, is the item still available? I am willing to give you double the monies because I must tell you I need this item immediately and any others you may have as they are for my twin daughters who are visiting from University on Wednesday of next week at this month....

Please let us round up this transaction as soon as conclusive. I assure you this is 100% risky free.

May God bless you.
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They might be just lazy...
yes.
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just set up a separate email address for use with gumtree then if you email them back from it you wont care if you get spam to that address
5 sounds the most fake.
Gumtree is full of fake - you can usually tell by their strange email addresses.
Most of my replies on gumtree are calls (or sometimes texts)

Had a kid text me yesterday replying to my 2010 macbook air ad, offering me £400 with a sympathy vote story.
Gumtree scams usually start with them asking some question first ("is the item in good condition?", etc) -- even if you've already put the answer in the original ad! The second email will be something to do with Paypal, Nigeria, etc.. something dodgy.

Only deal locally and with cash, don't be tempted to use Paypal as they'll reverse the transaction after you've posted them item.
Pretty much, lots of swindlers and fraudsters operating on there!
I bought my ps3 slim from there with 9games and move starter pack for £140. 160gb version (not even been out 12months yet) so not everyone scammers.
All seem reasonable to me...didn't ask for bank details or send item to Nigeria first so no problem!
I tried to sell my old phone on Gumtree, ended up with a Nigerin scammer emailing me. It started with "Is the item still for sale". It ended with me leading him on for literally months winding him up and saying I'd sent the item to him, so much fun
Local Classifieds = Cash Only

reply using a new address that you have no other use for and watch the fake paypal receipts come through.
Do bears poo in the woods?
Edited by moderator: "potty mouth" 12th Feb 2014
gmdlogan

I bought my ps3 slim from there with 9games and move starter pack for … I bought my ps3 slim from there with 9games and move starter pack for £140. 160gb version (not even been out 12months yet) so not everyone scammers.



At that price they had probably nicked it.
i sold sommat on gumtree for 450pounds bank transfer paid to ME and then posted itemout couple of days later. she wasnt a scammer and nor was i
There are many scammers using gumtree to swindle innocent people out of their hard earned cash.

An example is you see an item for sale and reply to it, he will offer to post it and ask yo to send payment to his account by transfer.
he is a gumtree scammer and swindled many gumtree users out of money, promising to send items he puts on sale, but never sends anything or replied after you send him money.

his name is A Kenny
Account number 63940470
Sort code 202020

sophie1111

There are many scammers using gumtree to swindle innocent people out of … There are many scammers using gumtree to swindle innocent people out of their hard earned cash. An example is you see an item for sale and reply to it, he will offer to post it and ask yo to send payment to his account by transfer. he is a gumtree scammer and swindled many gumtree users out of money, promising to send items he puts on sale, but never sends anything or replied after you send him money.his name is A Kenny Account number 63940470Sort code 202020



Sort code is in Leicestershire
Hi , can anyone offer me any advise i am planning on buying an iphone 5s from gumtreee , are there any precautions that i should take
zaraa

Hi , can anyone offer me any advise i am planning on buying an iphone 5s … Hi , can anyone offer me any advise i am planning on buying an iphone 5s from gumtreee , are there any precautions that i should take



Yes you should get your head examined for brain function/lack there of, beforehand. hth
Please don't buy anything from Gumtree, they are full of scammers. Gumtree know this but just don't care. I was ripped off earlier this year, so I contacted Gumtree, the transcript of the conversation follows....

Liam H: Hello, my name is Liam, how can I help you?You: Why do you allow scammers on your site?Liam H: We do notYou: you sure doLiam H: THen it appears that you know more about it than I doLiam H: We do not "allow" scammers on the siteLiam H: that's not to say that there aren't anyLiam H: We do all we can to screen fro dodgy ads....Liam H: but of course some slip through the netYou: okay, I gave you a few ref numbersYou: maybe you should check them outYou: I was ripped off by £500 last weekYou: via a Gumtree AdLiam H: Aaah... hate to hear that!Liam H: thanks for the ad refs....Liam H: did you report this matter in writing to safety@gumtree.com yet?You: nopeYou: you wont get my money backYou: unlike ebayYou: which you are apart ofLiam H: That's right.... since Gumtree do not get involved in the transaction in any way...Liam H: there's little we can do with regards to refundsYou: but since the ad was place via your website you have to be held liableYou: so what are you going to do about the two ref numbers I gave youYou: or more to the point the people that placed themYou: HELLOYou: have you stopped talking to me?You: HELLO ANYONE THERE?You: Nice BBC Watchdog material this!You: Great customer service - NOT!You: Ignore complaintsYou: GUMTREE scams will go viral nowYou: well doneLiam H: hello, so sorry for the long waitLiam H: I have to deal with multiple chats at one timeLiam H: and unfortunately I only have 10 fingersYou: and type with 2You: so please answer my questionsLiam H: just a moment plsLiam H: with you very soonLiam H: Well, I have checked on the first ad ref you submitted....Liam H: our fraud team have alrady removed it as they feel the item is suspiciously underpriced...You: reallyYou: I just viewed itLiam H: Are either of these ad's related to you being defrauded of 500 last week?Liam H: 1017673742 is no longer live on the site. Removed by fraud dept.You: the one that has telephone number 07599857980You: who placed another adYou: but from MiddlesbroughLiam H: Their account has been marked for fraud...Liam H: all ads have been removedYou: but with same tel numberLiam H: and user can not post further adsYou: He robbed me of £500You: It was for a Canon 5D mk2 with lenesYou: lenses that should be!You: He also has another ad with youYou: XP DEUS. Remote Control Unit in Isle of Wight | Other SportsYou: It's no good just blocking AdsYou: This guy needs to be nickedLiam H: I totally agree with youYou: you have the means to do thisLiam H: No, we are not the policeYou: so how are you going to help meLiam H: I am going to send you an email requesting a whole bunch of info from you....Liam H: we will then register the crime with Action FraudLiam H: and then get back to you with a reference numberYou: Yeah, I have already done thatYou: so where do we go from hereLiam H: I see...Liam H: just a moment plsYou: okayLiam H: Have you already been contacted back with your crime reference number?You: yesLiam H: Well, basically now wer're awaiting contact from the policeYou: NFRC130500236227Liam H: they will no doubt get in touch at some point and request info on the advertiserYou: i DOUBT ITLiam H: Should you require an update on your case then please contact the police quoting that reference numberYou: They cannot give updatesLiam H: Why's that?You: you tell meLiam H: I do not work with the policeYou: They all get swallowed up by the agency in LondonLiam H: I don't understand, sorryYou: Action Fraud is a front for a specialised unitYou: they dont pick up on all complaintsLiam H: I see....Liam H: that is something I was not aware ofYou: GumTree does have a duty to follow this upYou: they are implicite in the crimeLiam H: We make no guaruntees as to the volidity of any ad on our site....Liam H: and we always advise our users to meet face to face in a public placeLiam H: preferably with a friend accompanying youLiam H: validity*You: implicit that is!Liam H: Did you see my last couple of messages?You: yepYou: that doesnt count in lawLiam H: OK. Well, that's the situationLiam H: Then I suppose you had better investigate this matter with your solicitorLiam H: As there's no further assistnace I can offer you I'm afraidYou: So what you are saying meet face to face with the seller, take a friend with youLiam H: Yes.... please read our safety advice pages...Liam H: you will see that amongst other safety tips written thereYou: is that so you wont get beaten up!Liam H: Or mugged, yesYou: ahhhhhLiam H: also why we advise a public placeYou: I see nowYou: so Gumtree advocates that it sellers are probably crooks who will rip you off, mug you, or even worse..Liam H: Sir, I understand your disgruntlement, I really do. But I think you know that is not the caseLiam H: we make that warning on the off-chanceLiam H: the vast majority of buys and sells go smoothlyLiam H: unfortunately every now and then someone get's hadLiam H: and I'm sorry that it had to be youYou: can you tell me where this guy lives?Liam H: No, I cannot tell you thatYou: but do you knowLiam H: we must abide by data protection lawsLiam H: no, we do not knowLiam H: we would have the IP address....Liam H: but if it is a mobile I.P. it's not going to be of much useYou: agreedLiam H: The police can request this kind of info...Liam H: We can't realease this kind of info to the publicLiam H: data protection lawsYou: Freedom of Information ActYou: allows you to give such infoLiam H: Sure, then pls have your solicitor contact us on lawenforcement@gumtree.com with the required forms and we'll do what we can to assistYou: okayLiam H: Sorry there's not much more we can doYou: Thanks for you help with this matter, I will now post it on webLiam H: Just be more careful next time.... Don't trust that someone will be of good faithLiam H: always better to meet and do the exchange and check the item works there and thenLiam H: food for thoughtLiam H: OK, have a good day sitrLiam H: sir*You: watch YouTubeYou: for this conversation, along with Twitter and FacebookLiam H: OK then
Please don't buy anything from Gumtree, they are full of scammers. Gumtree know this but just don't care. I was ripped off earlier this year, so I contacted Gumtree, the transcript of the conversation follows if the moderator lets it through!

muffindell

Please don't buy anything from Gumtree, they are full of scammers. … Please don't buy anything from Gumtree, they are full of scammers. Gumtree know this but just don't care. I was ripped off earlier this year, so I contacted Gumtree, the transcript of the conversation follows if the moderator lets it through!



It's through.

I actually read through the whole thing. And since you posted on a forum, here's a response;

- You were rude from the outset. The guy on the other end did not fraud you, and wasn't able to do anything. You were wrong to act in this manner.
- You bought from Gumtree. This does not involve fees as it is closer to a forum, than an auction room. You do not carry transactions on that site, you use it to "locate" the transactions. If you want some form of "security", you pay for the privelge (eBay), if you don't want to pay for it; you don't get it, and that is your choice.
- You demanded that they arrest the guy. Yeah.... no.
- The customer adviser was actually very polite; you ranted about the Freedom of Information Act completely out of context (and wrongly) and he didn't correct you. At no point does a company have to turn over it's private data regarding one member of the public, to another member of the public on demand. legislation.gov.uk/ukp…nts.
Actually jaybear88 I was not rude, just to the point. The guy 'Liam' was a customer service guy, I just asked pointed questions, which has been read and commended by an editor for the Telegraph newspaper who was researching the problems of online fraud. Buying via Gumtree implicates them in all transactions, no matter what they would like us to think. At no point did I demand that THEY arrest the guy, I said to Liam 'This guy needs to be nicked', he agreed with me. Gumtree have the means to trace the location of the IP address and pass it onto the police, not that this mattered in this case because the guy was already known to them. You are misinformed with regards to FIA, a member of the public can request data if it's requested in writing, an IP address is purely a terminal location and not giving personal data away which requires a warrant. This is how the media found much of the information with regards to the recent NHS hospital scandals.
Liam agreed with what I was saying and added a few nice points about Gumtree including that you are likely to get mugged while picking up the goods you bought ...... You: So what you are saying meet face to face with the seller, take a friend with youLiam H: Yes.... please read our safety advice pages...Liam H: you will see that amongst other safety tips written thereYou: is that so you wont get beaten up!Liam H: Or mugged, yesYou: ahhhhhLiam H: also why we advise a public placeYou: I see nowYou: so Gumtree advocates that it sellers are probably crooks who will rip you off, mug you, or even worse..

You can say what you like with the way that I questioned the Gumtree representative, you weren't ripped off! I just want others to know the risks and the attitude of Gumtree to known criminal issues. Ebay is a much better option since you have a guarantee that you will either get your goods or your money returned.
jeez. would you do the same to your local paper if you replied to an ad in the back of it and got ripped off? because this is exactly the same.

the onus is on you to check out whether transactions may be fraudulent. personally i'd only ever deal with items I wanted to buy or sell in person (and have done), not send someone £500 without meeting them with no course of recompense whatsoever.
muffindell

Actually jaybear88 I was not rude, just to the point. The guy 'Liam' was … Actually jaybear88 I was not rude, just to the point. The guy 'Liam' was a customer service guy, I just asked pointed questions, which has been read and commended by an editor for the Telegraph newspaper who was researching the problems of online fraud. Buying via Gumtree implicates them in all transactions, no matter what they would like us to think. At no point did I demand that THEY arrest the guy, I said to Liam 'This guy needs to be nicked', he agreed with me. Gumtree have the means to trace the location of the IP address and pass it onto the police, not that this mattered in this case because the guy was already known to them. You are misinformed with regards to FIA, a member of the public can request data if it's requested in writing, an IP address is purely a terminal location and not giving personal data away which requires a warrant. This is how the media found much of the information with regards to the recent NHS hospital scandals. Liam agreed with what I was saying and added a few nice points about Gumtree including that you are likely to get mugged while picking up the goods you bought ...... You: So what you are saying meet face to face with the seller, take a friend with youLiam H: Yes.... please read our safety advice pages...Liam H: you will see that amongst other safety tips written thereYou: is that so you wont get beaten up!Liam H: Or mugged, yesYou: ahhhhhLiam H: also why we advise a public placeYou: I see nowYou: so Gumtree advocates that it sellers are probably crooks who will rip you off, mug you, or even worse..You can say what you like with the way that I questioned the Gumtree representative, you weren't ripped off! I just want others to know the risks and the attitude of Gumtree to known criminal issues. Ebay is a much better option since you have a guarantee that you will either get your goods or your money returned.



Why did you not go and meet them in person?
These people scam because there are loads of stupid people in the world that fall for it, despite countless warnings . . . .


Mainly because his location was a 5 hour round trip for me at a time when I couldn't take that amount or time away from work. If it were advertised in a local paper then I would have picked the item up in person. Yeah, I was naive but I guess that comes from the way I am, trusting. I just wanted to share my experience (and that of many others) of Gumtree. In future I will just stick with Ebay for used items.
Let's not tar all Gumtree sellers with the same brush now(!) I have sold lots on there and have many times posed out the items, never even had the slightest temptation to run off with the money.. And the one person I bought from (only live 30mins away but traffic and time not worth the hassle) posted the item out to me BEFORE I even paid. She had to go weigh/price it up and I told her to go ahead and post of ok for her and promised to pay her as soon as she knew what the total was. She posted, and I paid her that very evening (value of goods £30) another buyer paid me circa £400 for an item I posted out to them.. Guess I've been lucky- but- feel for you op. commiserations.
sophie1111

There are many scammers using gumtree to swindle innocent people out of … There are many scammers using gumtree to swindle innocent people out of their hard earned cash. An example is you see an item for sale and reply to it, he will offer to post it and ask yo to send payment to his account by transfer. he is a gumtree scammer and swindled many gumtree users out of money, promising to send items he puts on sale, but never sends anything or replied after you send him money.his name is A Kenny Account number 63940470Sort code 202020

I have just been scammed for £20 for some Gameboy pokemon games which never arrived.He still has ads on there scamming more people, even though I have sent gumtree multiple messages.I should get my money back with paypal, but I did find out his bank number, and the sort code shows it is the same branch as this but different account number.The branch is in Leicester near de montford road,but the name he used with me was tom swarbrick.Is A.Kenny his real name and what does the A stand for?, have you had dealings with him?.thanks.
People what ever happens please dont accpt payments on Gumtree from Paypal, Because Paypal doesnt Guarantee doorstep transactions, there has to be a 3rd party like Ebay to ensure that the transaction is secured. Paypal transactions a reversible and cant be trusted as an independent mode of payment like standard bank payments that are irreversible.
http://www.comedy.co.uk/images/library/people/180x200/f/fonejacker_george.jpg

Hallo sir, is the item still available? I am willing to give you double the monies because I must tell you I need this item immediately and any others you may have as they are for my twin daughters who are visiting from University on Wednesday of next week at this month....

Please let us round up this transaction as soon as conclusive. I assure you this is 100% risky free.

May God bless you.
Buying a phone from Gumtree is a scammers delight, so be REALLY careful.
This is how it goes:

1) Someone advertises a boxed, new, mint, unused etc phone for a decent price. Not too cheap, just a reasonable price.
2) You respond to the ad and go and go and see the phone at the guy / girls house. It's absolutely perfect, nothing wrong with it. You see paperwork, ID, contract with the chaps name etc, everything's just fine.
3) You pay the money, get him to sign something that transfers ownership, shake his hand and leave.
4) Everything's fine for a couple of months but suddenly your phone goes dead. You find out that it's been blocked.
5) You call the seller and of course, his phone numbers dead, you go around to his house and he says he's not blocked it or ever had any problems.
6) After many enquiries, you find out which network blocked the phone but they won't give you any info because of ..Data Protection. They won't unblock it because you're not the contract holder. The chap you bought it from is no longer with the network so he says he's got nothing to do with it.
7) You go to the police but they get 30,000 mobiles reported stolen or sold fraudulently EVERY MONTH so they don't do anything.
10) You go back to Gumtree and they basically say that they have nothing to do with it as they just allow people to post adverts.

What's happened is that the scumbag has sold you the mobile, waited a couple of months and then reported it stolen. The insurance company then take a few weeks to act and block it. They the then pay the guy and he's just got paid twice for the same phone!
You can't find out who the insurance company is because no one will tell you and this means that you've been well and truly screwed.
All this happened to me and I lost nearly £400.
Another gumtree scammer.
just waiting for a picture of him
Told him i have posted my apple mac to his friend. hopefully he likes his gift.

From: gerwilis@hotmail.co.uk
To: gerwilis@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: PAYMENT HAS BEEN MADE
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:11:49 +0100

Hello Dear,

I have just made the payment to you via Paypal now and I also paid Paypal charges and postage fees to ensure you get full payment.

Kindly Post the item to my friend address through Royalmail International Signfor Small Packet Registered No Exception as soon you receive Confirmation email from Paypal check both your inbox and junk mail for Paypal messages and write on the package..."A GIFT FROM WILLIAMS", because i want it as a gift for my best friend

My friend's Address is

Name :Engr, Ogundipe Kenny
Address :DC5 Airport Road,
City :Benin City
State :Edo
Zip code :234053
Country :Nigeria.

You can email me the Shipping details after postage.
Thank you

Gerrard
Ha - just had the same with Mr Gerrard.

I asked him if he was from UK and he said Liverpool (should have known there).

Just told him to....p off
Gumtree have a major problem at the moment ,hackers are taking over sellers accounts and changing the email contact details,and scamming that way,I would not even use them now as they cant safe guard themselves being hacked.

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